Re: Leftover Meat and other pleasant thoughts

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Great idea!!! , what do you think...is this a product for the

Radiant Life catalog that we could all order?

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Resposne to bone broth question: the recipe for beef broth in the broth section calls for the use of bones in the cooking process, which are strained out.

From what I know about freezing, it does destroy enzymes in the meat. I've tried it both ways, and liked the fresh better. However, I'm working on getting pregnant and breastfeeding, so my husband cut a deal with me to freeze meat for 14 days until I stop breastfeeding.

We just tried the carpaccio with the mustard sauce tonight and it was great.

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Greetings Primitive list subscribers!

This is my first dive into this list after just reading for a week or so. Very interesting. Happy to meet you all! Been reading Sally Fallon's book and the westonaprice.com website.

A few questions:

- Cooked meat: What's the deal with leftovers? Are they best eaten cold, right from the frig? Microwaving is out of the question. If it is unsafe to eat it cold and i bring leftover meat to work, and all they have is microwave to heat food?? What to do. I have been pouring Kefir on it the night before to hopefully minimize any harmful bacterial growth.

- If you freeze meats for 14 days to eliminate any potential parasites before eating it raw, doesn't this also destroy or alter enzymes, nutrients, and other unidentified factors? The taste seems to suffer anyway.

- Is it beneficial to eat the vegetables (celery, carrots, etc.) from a broth? Or do they go in the garbage?

- What are your thoughts on cultured soy beverages and "yogurts"? I have only begun seeing them recently. Not referring to Miso, or Tempeh. These taste and look like yogurt. They are lacto-fermented and taste soury and seem to digest easier. I assume this process makes soy a lot more safe and nutritious (by eliminating any anti-nutrients/inhibitors and pre-digesting it) I if this new way of culturing soy, will replace the need to milk cows or goats or...

- Sally Fallon mentions "bone broth", though I do not see it in the book. Is this a separate process apart from making Stock? Also, the bone ends are soft after I make chicken stock. I assume this is normal and assume that the red marrow is a blood storehouse? Is it healthy to eat these soft ends of bone, even though (or maybe because of) it may be blood?

- Got raw milk? Has anyone found sources in Phoenix, AZ area? I'm still searching.

I have many more questions and look forward to sharing ideas with you all.

Thank you for all the information!

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From: Healthy Traditions Network

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 12:29 PM

Subject: Re: DAIRY QUESTION

For some people, especially those with children, it may be very hard to give up dairy products. While I am privileged, blessed in fact, to have access to the real stuff, I do my best not to consume pasteurized products. Some of the benefits of the fats in the pasteurized products are not effected and are still worthwhile to consume if you're not able to get them elsewhere. These products can then be greatly enhanced by culturing them to add enzymes and beneficial bacteria to the digestive tract. Not only does it help to have those enzymes and bacteria added to the diet it also helps the body deal with the negative effects of the pasteurization.

A couple of other things to think about as far as dairy is concerned: if you are cooking with a raw product it is usually heated beyond the point of pasteurization as well. And, yogurt is a pasteurized product and the whey that comes from it is still very beneficial although not as beneficial as the whey derived from the making of (raw) cream cheese and whey. Remember too, that most studies you read about the evils of dairy products do not make a distinction between pasteurized and raw dairy or the world of difference between them. I don't know about you but up until a few years ago when I learned about this philosophy, I never new there was such a thing as nonpasteurized milk!

Unfortunately the high quality products of our ancestors and that Nourishing Traditions is calling for are not always very easily accessible so we have to do the next best thing. When enough of us come together with a strong enough consumer voice hopefully the nutrient -dense foods will be more readily available. Within our network, it is the folks who have access to real milk that are able to more successfully incorporate NT into their lifestyles. Don't be discouraged, things have already gotten much better!!

----- Original Message -----

From: Sturm

Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 12:42 PM

Subject: DAIRY QUESTION

I'm very new to Nourishing Traditions and have beenreading vigorously for a few weeks now. I've spentthe last week or so researching the effects ofpasteurization on milk and it seems to me that theharmful effects of this process are staggering. Oneof the most damaging evidence being that baby calvescan't even thrive on pasteurized milk. My question is, as hard as it is to find raw milkproducts, and seemingly almost impossible to findorganic pasture fed raw milk products, what's thepurpose in using dairy products at all? Even if youculture, ferment, etc. at home; if you are startingwith a pasteurized product, won't your end productstill be damaged? Would it be better to focus onorgan meats, eggs, fish eggs etc. for the vitamins andminerals in milk? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!__________________________________________________

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- Got raw milk?

im up for a tshirt of this one!! our new motto??

*choose the road less travelled*

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"Got Raw Milk?" is a great slogan. I forwarded the idea to Sally and told her it is just one of the many fruits of this list. Would be great to have the realmilk.com site somewhere on the shirt too. Will get back to you all!

Cheers,

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Sent: 2/27/2001 9:05:52 PM

Subject: Re: Leftover Meat and other pleasant thoughts

Great idea!!! , what do you think...is this a product for the

Radiant Life catalog that we could all order?