Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 Also, you can braise the greens in some butter. Yummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 How many natives do you know that used their microwaves??? You can accomplish the same thing with a little water in a quality pan with a good sealing lid and a little quality time instead of zapping those greens and altering their structure and destroying vitamins and minerals and exposing yourself to radiation!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorenzo Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 4:55 AM Subject: Greens, This evening we mixed some Red Chard, Kale, and Collards,chopped with two Tbspns of Olive Oil, bits of Garlic andchopper Onion, then Microwaved in a closed glass containertill tender, The 14 year old son remarked; "These areGood!'Again Lorenzo> > the veggies for taste. When I taste the chard in the> store, or> > whatever leafy green is there, it is bitter. How do you> get around>>> Some times, some greens taste bitter, other times they> taste good, I believe it is the source (where grown) and> hte season of the year. Lorenzo> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 Sally talks about microwave ovens on pages 68, 356, 422,424,523 of the book. It certainly made me take a look at using a microwave oven. We got rid of ours in September. I thought I would really miss it for thawing things out but I've discovered even at 5:00 when you're getting dinner started and you realize you forgot to take the meat or stock out of the freezer for the meal, it's not that big of a deal. A little warm water in a pan does the trick and doesn't take a whole lot longer than the microwave did! I sure have a lot more counter space without that big box sitting on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 I've read a few studies which conclude that microwaves alter the cellular makeup of food in a very unhealthful way. I refuse to use it anymore because even if that conclusion is wrong, why take a chance just to save time. There is just too much that we do not know. Dana In a message dated 2/26/2001 6:40:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, lorenzo1@... writes: Who wrote this reply? If you wrote it, you had better turn off all the lights in your house to avoid radiation! Did you know that it comes right of the light bulbs! Beware! Regards, Lorenzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Who wrote this reply? If you wrote it, you had better turn off all the lights in your house to avoid radiation! Did you know that it comes right of the light bulbs! Beware! Regards, Lorenzo ----- Original Message ----- From: Healthy Traditions Network Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 07:59 Subject: Re: Greens, How many natives do you know that used their microwaves??? You can accomplish the same thing with a little water in a quality pan with a good sealing lid and a little quality time instead of zapping those greens and altering their structure and destroying vitamins and minerals and exposing yourself to radiation!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorenzo Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 4:55 AM Subject: Greens, This evening we mixed some Red Chard, Kale, and Collards,chopped with two Tbspns of Olive Oil, bits of Garlic andchopper Onion, then Microwaved in a closed glass containertill tender, The 14 year old son remarked; "These areGood!'Again Lorenzo> > the veggies for taste. When I taste the chard in the> store, or> > whatever leafy green is there, it is bitter. How do you> get around>>> Some times, some greens taste bitter, other times they> taste good, I believe it is the source (where grown) and> hte season of the year. Lorenzo> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Sorry, I just have areally hard time believing people who are honoring a traditional diet with traditional preparation techniques are okay with using a microwave. Check out an article in the Price-Pottennger Nutrition Foundation Journal on the effect of microwaves a couple of issues ago. (www.price-pottenger.org) Great stuff in their journals. Sure there are plenty of toxins and sources of radiation everywhere but why willingly destroy your food when you make such extravagant efforts to put good quality food in your body. And by the way there are also better quality, full spectrum light bulbs available if you want to work that angle as well. I am glad microwaving is not okay with me! To your health, ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorenzo Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Greens, Who wrote this reply? If you wrote it, you had better turn off all the lights in your house to avoid radiation! Did you know that it comes right of the light bulbs! Beware! Regards, Lorenzo ----- Original Message ----- From: Healthy Traditions Network Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 07:59 Subject: Re: Greens, How many natives do you know that used their microwaves??? You can accomplish the same thing with a little water in a quality pan with a good sealing lid and a little quality time instead of zapping those greens and altering their structure and destroying vitamins and minerals and exposing yourself to radiation!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorenzo Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 4:55 AM Subject: Greens, This evening we mixed some Red Chard, Kale, and Collards,chopped with two Tbspns of Olive Oil, bits of Garlic andchopper Onion, then Microwaved in a closed glass containertill tender, The 14 year old son remarked; "These areGood!'Again Lorenzo> > the veggies for taste. When I taste the chard in the> store, or> > whatever leafy green is there, it is bitter. How do you> get around>>> Some times, some greens taste bitter, other times they> taste good, I believe it is the source (where grown) and> hte season of the year. Lorenzo> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 , thanks for the reply. I have known some real natives; Typically they will do it the easiest way. Also they are not much interested in learning the good and bad about microwaves. Millions of primitive Mexicans came to the US recently and they buy a microwave as soon as practical. My native friends are terrible food prepares, they let the meat spoil a little, they smoke it for weeks, they burn it, they put huge amounts of salt on it. And the items I read about ancient food preparation are worse. Not to say that my modern friends always do a good job. My Mother was afraid of radiation when she heard about it! After I explained to her that thousands of various RAYS from outer space go thru her body every day; she calmed down. (She is 95 now) When the first Nuclear Power was turned on-(not) Thousands of people complained, called the police, called their Congressman, wrote to the paper, with complaints that the electricity from the Nuclear power was hurting them. Then a month later the Power was turned on again (not) and the same thing happened . After a year of this nonsense the Nuclear Power was actually turned on with no announcement. No one called to complain. It had never been turned on during the first year, except the newspaper and TV (or Radio) announced that it was going to be turned on. See San Francisco starting about 1955 to check this out. Now if I may explain something. If you heat food it excites the molecules and causes them to jump around That jumping is called "Hot". The same thing happens with microwaves. I hate to tell you this but you are being bombarded with microwaves every day. Good Luck A friend told me that during WWII the US Army put his head in a microwave Device to cure his sinus condition-- He mused about what may have happened if they had forgotten to turn it off at the end of the treatment period. The fear of the microwave has been shown to be pseudo science by several sources. I am not in the least bit "honoring a traditional diet"; But I have been trying to "Eat" a sensible diet since year 1950. My Mother fed her kid a good diet that had a little too much sugar and white flour in it but no where near what the unsuspecting eat today. I leave no stone unturned to seek out any bit of information that may be relevant to an intelligent diet. that is why I read lists like this one. do a search on paleo for more info. I find it extremely difficult to get my family to eat enough fruits and vegetables. So I try many things. My wife complains that sometimes some fruit or vegetables that I buy go to waste before we eat them. However I have noticed that if the fruit and vegetables are not in the fridge, they do not get cooked -microwave or stove either one. So I reply I prefer to have a few things spoil than that we need $50,000 cancer operations. Three of us - we rarely ever go to a Doctor. I know what people eat, I watch them in the Supermarket. One day a couple was buying lots of vegetables, I happened to remark that was a good way to eat; They Replied: "These are for our Iguana". I posted the article about how my 14 year old liked the green leaves in order to help other parents. Your reply came with no signature which is OK except this list does not otherwise show any posters name. I still feel that microwave vegetable that a kid will eat is about 1000 times more nutritious than a steamed vegetable that he does not eat because he does not have time. Actually you may not believe this but when I give this child instructions on cooking vegetables I tell him to steam them if there is lots of time. Regards, Lorenzo : Greens, Sorry, I just have areally hard time believing people who are honoring a traditional diet with traditional preparation techniques are okay with using a microwave. Check out an article in the Price-Pottennger Nutrition Foundation Journal on the effect of microwaves a couple of issues ago. (www.price-pottenger.org) Great stuff in their journals. Sure there are plenty of toxins and sources of radiation everywhere but why willingly destroy your food when you make such extravagant efforts to put good quality food in your body. And by the way there are also better quality, full spectrum light bulbs available if you want to work that angle as well. I am glad microwaving is not okay with me! To your health, ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorenzo Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Greens, Who wrote this reply? If you wrote it, you had better turn off all the lights in your house to avoid radiation! Did you know that it comes right of the light bulbs! Beware! Regards, Lorenzo ----- Original Message ----- From: Healthy Traditions Network Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 07:59 Subject: Re: Greens, How many natives do you know that used their microwaves??? You can accomplish the same thing with a little water in a quality pan with a good sealing lid and a little quality time instead of zapping those greens and altering their structure and destroying vitamins and minerals and exposing yourself to radiation!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorenzo Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 4:55 AM Subject: Greens, This evening we mixed some Red Chard, Kale, and Collards,chopped with two Tbspns of Olive Oil, bits of Garlic andchopper Onion, then Microwaved in a closed glass containertill tender, The 14 year old son remarked; "These areGood!'Again Lorenzo> > the veggies for taste. When I taste the chard in the> store, or> > whatever leafy green is there, it is bitter. How do you> get around>>> Some times, some greens taste bitter, other times they> taste good, I believe it is the source (where grown) and> hte season of the year. Lorenzo> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 * Lorenzo (lorenzo1@...) [010228 00:50]: * Subject: Re: Greens,: > , thanks for the reply. > > I have known some real natives; Typically they will do it the easiest > way. Also they are not much interested in learning the good and bad > about microwaves. Millions of primitive Mexicans came to the US > recently and they buy a microwave as soon as practical. > > My native friends are terrible food prepares, they let the meat > spoil a little, they smoke it for weeks, they burn it, they > put huge amounts of salt on it. And the items I read about > ancient food preparation are worse. Not to say that my modern > friends always do a good job. Of course this is only relevant if your native friends are following their traditions, and if those traditions have led their people to have many generations with great longevity and superb health. > My Mother was afraid of radiation when she heard about it! After > I explained to her that thousands of various RAYS from outer space > go thru her body every day; she calmed down. (She is 95 now) > [ ... ] Your mother must be doing something right if she is 95. Perhaps you should listen to her! :-) It's not a question of exposure versus non-exposure, as you are absolutely correct about cosmic and other radiation being inevitable. However, there is a huge diffence in intensity between background levels and artificially produced levels -- most people's eyeballs don't cook solid in a minute or two from the background like they would in a microwave oven. The body has mechanisms to correct low levels of abuse (radiation damage, natural toxins, trans-fats, etc.), but when those levels get higher, their just isn't any way to keep up. ly I don't know what the truth is concerning microwave ovens, but it doesn't matter to me personally since I find I don't need or want to use them. --alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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