Re: Hulda s open gate/ zappers/CLO &DMSO mixed??

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Joyce,

You don't strain the grains out of the commercial kefir. It's just a

powder you mix into the milk. It is not even close to what the real

grains can do either.

They actually look like tiny heads of cauliflower. They call them

grains but they are not grains in any sence of the word. They look

like flowerettes.

Back in the days of the Inca's carrying them around in the goatskins

with their raw goatsmilk, they broke up into tiny pieces that " look "

like grains. They say it is more beneficial, to keep them broken up

like that, but I find it easier to strain them if they are a bit

larger.

Real kefir lives forever and can be shared for ever because it

multiplies. It doesn't have babies, it just grows and seperates.

They grow better in the summer/warmth, but do not require heating

pads or anything. In fact, it takes a bit for them to " bounce " back,

but when you want to slow them down, you can refrigerate them. The

commercial powder of kefir is like chocolate milk. You mix it up,

let it set and drink it.

You can make cold yogurt with kefir grains. They adapt to the

pathogens in YOUR/their surrounding area, so the yogurt is just

for " you " . NO heating involved, the milk is not destroyed. Then all

the nummy things you were talking about before can be made raw with

this " yogurt " including cheeses of types. The directions are there

on his site.

Seperated cheese and kefir whey is AWESOME for many things. Raw

cheese is just another way to preserve food/milk in it's " season " .

You will see kefir do things no other food can do, honest.

Hope that helps,

Get free grains or scoby here:

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> > > > >> > > And Hulda 's books advise 1/2 tsp. of DMSO in

half a

> > > glass of

> > > > >> > > water, taken orally, removes wheel bearing grease and

> > motor

> > > oil that

> > > > >> > > are found in the systems of ALL cancer patients.

This

> > makes me

> > > > >> > > think that possible diluted oral DMSO dosing for pet

> > cancer

> > > would be

> > > > >> > > beneficial as well?

> > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Hi Smitty, I believe it was one of the others who answered my question

who wondered about the Hulda website, but I too am very

interested, signed up for the one, and investigated the others, but

then had to disrupt the search. Thanks for the post for all of us. So

good to have a good sharing of info networking going.

Joyce

>

> > > The zappers work, and intrestingly enough I came here today to find

> > > the list if it is still online. . . .

> > > Does anyone here know if they are still online?

>

> If this is the one, go to Yahoo groups =

> HuldaEnthusiasts

>

> OR. . . . one of these =

>

> http://tinyurl.com/3vlxlt

>

> Smitty

>

[Guest guest]

, You are so helpful in your explanations. You should be a teacher if you're not as its certainly a gift of yours.

You know how to clarify. I know now I just got the "powder" and am going to order from marilyn the kefir lady tomorrow. Would have liked to order from the DOM as it sounds as though his cultures are especially medically beneficial and robust ... but I imagine many others are too! :)Thanks again for sharing your special knowledge. Joyce

There is ALWAYS a "BETTER WAY"! Together WE can find IT and make IT a "Cradle for Humanity"!

Re: Hulda s "open gate"/ zappers/CLO & DMSO mixed??

Joyce,You don't strain the grains out of the commercial kefir. It's just a powder you mix into the milk. It is not even close to what the real grains can do either. They actually look like tiny heads of cauliflower. They call them grains but they are not grains in any sence of the word. They look like flowerettes.Back in the days of the Inca's carrying them around in the goatskins with their raw goatsmilk, they broke up into tiny pieces that "look" like grains. They say it is more beneficial, to keep them broken up like that, but I find it easier to strain them if they are a bit larger.Real kefir lives forever and can be shared for ever because it multiplies. It doesn't have babies, it just grows and seperates. They grow better in the summer/warmth, but do not require heating pads or anything. In fact, it takes a bit for them to "bounce" back, but when you want to slow them down, you can refrigerate them. The commercial powder of kefir is like chocolate milk. You mix it up, let it set and drink it. :)You can make cold yogurt with kefir grains. They adapt to the pathogens in YOUR/their surrounding area, so the yogurt is just for "you". NO heating involved, the milk is not destroyed. Then all the nummy things you were talking about before can be made raw with this "yogurt" including cheeses of types. The directions are there on his site.Seperated cheese and kefir whey is AWESOME for many things. Raw cheese is just another way to preserve food/milk in it's "season". :)You will see kefir do things no other food can do, honest.Hope that helps, Get free grains or scoby here:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Good_Kefir_Grains;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbnBlbGI3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE4NjYzNzk4BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MDk1MARzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTIyMjM2MzkyNw--OR HERE:http://www.torontoadvisors.com/Kefir/kefir-list.php--- In DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO , "Joyce" wrote:>> Thanks both & for their explanations on why the DMSO> might work differently than the other gate-opening solvents and why> Hulda was probably so concerned re. the pasteurization & not analyzing> the acidic/grain and grass-fed alkaline connections for the milk.> > We are so thrilled with again having a source of raw Jersey milk ...> ORGANIC yet and grass-fed. The lady who does the milking has 2> different doctor clients, one who travels about 300 miles across> Nebraska fairly regularly about every 5 wks. or so, to pick up about> 50 gal. at a time which they take back, make butter and then kefirs> and freeze the skim milk or low fat for the interim. The other doc> travels a lesser distance but does about the same routine.> > My first kefir batches with the commercial mix are "good" but I am> hoping to get some "traditional" grains soon as Dominic from Australia> warns that the quality of the commercial is not comparable for> probiotic and other effects and only lasts about 7 recycles whereas> traditional can go on forever! The lady who milks the cows is going> to get some from one of the docs when they come again and until then I> believe I have a source in Minn. who has said they'll send some USPS> for $4.75 postage.> > Question: Can I then just mix it in with the remainder of the> commercial grains I then have? I am having one dickens of a time> trying to "strain" the grains out. First I tried a little bamboo tea> strainer I had and it took FOREVER for the 3/4 of qt. AND somehow a> couple tiny slivers of either the bamboo weavings OR more likely> unseen slivers from the last pao de arco? (spelling) tea I made came> off so I had to fish them out as best I could, (peering eerily over my> OWN shoulder wondering if "contamination" would result at the> forbidden!). > > I guess I'm hoping that even though its the commercial grains that the> "powers" of the kefir will overwhelm any "contamination" .. if not,> that batch is doomed! Oh woe is me!> > After getting fresh milk home tonight and starting a new batch, I> whipped up a smoothie of the kefir milk, 2 peaches, frozen orange> concentrate, touch of cinnamon and ginger and beet root powder, honey> to sweeten a tad. YUMMY!> > Thanks again for the contributions to our knowledge. Joyce> > > > > > > >> > > And Hulda 's books advise 1/2 tsp. of DMSO in half a> > > glass of> > > > >> > > water, taken orally, removes wheel bearing grease and > > motor> > > oil that> > > > >> > > are found in the systems of ALL cancer patients. This > > makes me> > > > >> > > think that possible diluted oral DMSO dosing for pet > > cancer> > > would be> > > > >> > > beneficial as well?> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Thanks,> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >