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Arletha

My dad had indicated that he would harm himself and that is why the

decision was made for us to move him from his apartment. A visiting

nurse called me, after I had just left to go get my son from school,

telling me that my dad was indicating he would harm himself. My brother

and I met at dads, while the nurse stayed with him, and we took him to

an adult psychiatric hospital. Dad was still fairly coherent and kind

of admitted himself there. We stayed with him through the admitting,

and the intake meeting they had. That is when everything changed in

life. My dad has also really struggled with anger and rage throughout

this disease. I am so very sorry you are going through this, especially

the rage. The disease is so very overwhelming and then when they become

enraged, they truly are a different person. I know with my dad it seems

he grows 28 arms and acts as if he had been lifting weights. The

strength is incredible. Please, please take care of yourself. Maybe do

a check on medications that Ronnie is on. Combinations of meds. is

crutial. What meds. is Ronnie taking now? Maybe this group can help

with some choices that would be helpful to Ronnie. Please respond, and

let us know if we can help!! You will be in my prayers!!

Sandie

Des Moines, IA

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Can you get rid of the pistol? A threat is as good as a deed--meaning

that if a person threatens then eventually they will do it. I am not

generally a gun control advocate BUT you are probably better off

without guns in your house just now.

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> This is the second time he has had such a bad time with denial.

> Started out today with angry mood now the denial.He already took

> his pistol out in country and wanted to end things.Now we try to

stay

> on top of things. Whats next.

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In a message dated 4/9/02 10:42:12 PM Central Daylight Time,

badluck46124@... writes:

> He sweats alot is this something LBD does?

I don't recall hearing that it is, Arletha. However recently my husband

complains about feeling feverish, but his temp is always normal. The humid

air has begun to move into our part of the country, and that coupled with the

soft collar may be his cause. I'm glad you asked the question, though. It

will be interesting to see the responses.

OH MY GOODNESS what a lot of meds Ronnie takes. All from one doctor? He is

so young with LBD, too. So, so sorry.

Cheryl

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Thank you for caring. Ronnie is 53 .He has had LBD for 3 years.He takes these

meds.Celebrex200mg twice daily,Effexor xr 150 mg twice daily, Carb/Levodpa

50/200 2tab twice daily,Reminyl 12mg twice daily,Metformin HCL 500mg 2 twice

daily,Aspirin 81mg daily,Magnesuim 100mg 2 twice daily,Vit.E 2000 ui daily,and

1 Clonazepam 1mg daily.He takes Ultram 50mg for pain when he needs it every 6

hours. He has had a lot of pain today.And his headaches are hurting him bad

again. well thats enough.Thanks again for writing me.He sweats alot is this

something LBD does? Arletha

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Arletha

You mentioned the pain your husband has....my dad is always in a lot of

pain also. He takes the same Celebrex and Ultram regularly for the

pain. He also sweats most of the time. He has wore shorts most of the

winter in the nursing home. I think it has been fairly warm in there,

but not warm enough for shorts. There is a service called EMedicine,

and I believe EDrug that the meds you mentioned could be looked up at.

I have printed out your email and I will try to do some research also.

Some of the meds I am unfamiliar with, but do know that different people

react differently to the same medication. Does Ronnie have a

neurologist he is seeing? Thank you for being so open concerning

Ronnie's meds, and hopefully I and/or someone can be helpful. I will

continue to have you in my prayers.

Sandie

Des Mones, IA

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In a message dated 2002-04-10 8:23:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

stephanie_brent@... writes:

> complaining about being warm

And my husband is always cold...go figure.

Ev

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Arletha and Sandy--Maybe you've stumbled on something interesting. My

mother is always too warm and has been all her life. The nursing home

is kept warm but the other patient wear sweaters--my mother is

wearing summer t-shirts and complaining about being warm.

> Arletha

> You mentioned the pain your husband has....my dad is always in a

lot of

> pain also. He takes the same Celebrex and Ultram regularly for the

> pain. He also sweats most of the time. He has wore shorts most of

the

> winter in the nursing home. I think it has been fairly warm in

there,

> but not warm enough for shorts. There is a service called

EMedicine,

> and I believe EDrug that the meds you mentioned could be looked up

at.

> I have printed out your email and I will try to do some research

also.

> Some of the meds I am unfamiliar with, but do know that different

people

> react differently to the same medication. Does Ronnie have a

> neurologist he is seeing? Thank you for being so open concerning

> Ronnie's meds, and hopefully I and/or someone can be helpful. I

will

> continue to have you in my prayers.

> Sandie

> Des Mones, IA

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Ev

Isn't it strange, that when we send out information that seems to be

common among LBD patients, it always becomes not so common? I had to

laugh at your reply. Just when the " warmth " issue began to make sense,

your reply was your husband complains about being cold. Thanks for

shedding more light on this subject.

Sandie

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Well maybe it is the internal thermostat that is broken

> Ev,

> My Mom is always cold too!

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> Donna

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> A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand. Courtsey of The-Mouth.com

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Arletha and Sandy--Maybe you've stumbled on something interesting.

My husband runs on the hot side. However, he is prone to suddenly

getting so cold his teeth chatter.....even though it's not cold.

Mai-Liis

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> Ev

> Isn't it strange, that when we send out information that seems to be

> common among LBD patients, it always becomes not so common? I had

to

> laugh at your reply. Just when the " warmth " issue began to make

sense,

> your reply was your husband complains about being cold. Thanks for

> shedding more light on this subject.

> Sandie

Mom is cold all the time. Even in the heat of the summer last year

she said she was cold. She wears sweatshirts and covers up with at

least 1 blanket all the time. Says she doesn't want to get out of bed

because she's cold. Doesn't want to take a shower because she's cold.

Doesn't want to go anywhere because it's too cold.

She blames her runny nose and her tremor on being cold. She is still

in denial and doesn't or can't comprehend it is all part of LBD.

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> Ev

> Isn't it strange, that when we send out information that seems to be

> common among LBD patients, it always becomes not so common? I had

to

> laugh at your reply. Just when the " warmth " issue began to make

sense,

> your reply was your husband complains about being cold. Thanks for

> shedding more light on this subject.

> Sandie

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Wanted to let you know we did an impromptu survey on the runny nose

thing and found that it seems to be a very common trait of LBD. I guess

I am not sure if it is a side effect to meds, or the actual LBD. It

would appear to be the LBD as not all the LO's of this group are on the

same medication. Thank you for your reply!! I hope all is going well

with you.

Sandie

Des Moines, IA

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Arletha,

You said that Ronnie takes 2 50/200 Carb/Levodopa twice daily? Are those CR

(controlled release)? Parkinsons medications can aggravate the cognitive

difficulties with LBD. It's a fine line we tread between keeping our LOs mobile

and keeping their cognitive functioning maximized. 's neurologist recently

reduced his Sinemet due to his continued hallucinations. Before was

diagnosed with LBD, his former neurologist kept increasing his Parkinsons meds

because he felt was " too rigid. " This left almost catatonic. Once we

found the right neurologist and got the diagnosis and corrected his medication,

did amazingly well for quite a while. I'm not familiar with some of the

other meds you listed. Good luck.

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Yes Ronnie takes 2 50/200 Carb/Levodopa ER twice daily for his jerking.He

still jerks some when he gets alittle upset.

Waldron wrote: Arletha,

You said that Ronnie takes 2 50/200 Carb/Levodopa twice daily? Are those CR

(controlled release)? Parkinsons medications can aggravate the cognitive

difficulties with LBD. It's a fine line we tread between keeping our LOs mobile

and keeping their cognitive functioning maximized. 's neurologist recently

reduced his Sinemet due to his continued hallucinations. Before was

diagnosed with LBD, his former neurologist kept increasing his Parkinsons meds

because he felt was " too rigid. " This left almost catatonic. Once we

found the right neurologist and got the diagnosis and corrected his medication,

did amazingly well for quite a while. I'm not familiar with some of the

other meds you listed. Good luck.

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Arletha, That's a HUGE dose of Effexor! This is the only med I have personal

experience with.

And, then Clonazepam on top.......hm....... If my husband were on that many

meds, he would

be a Zombie. Does Ronnie's doctor know about LBD? Just wondering......

Mai-Liis

Re: Ronnie and Denial

Thank you for caring. Ronnie is 53 .He has had LBD for 3 years.He takes these

meds.Celebrex200mg twice daily,Effexor xr 150 mg twice daily, Carb/Levodpa

50/200 2tab twice daily,Reminyl 12mg twice daily,Metformin HCL 500mg 2 twice

daily,Aspirin 81mg daily,Magnesuim 100mg 2 twice daily,Vit.E 2000 ui daily,and

1 Clonazepam 1mg daily.He takes Ultram 50mg for pain when he needs it every 6

hours. He has had a lot of pain today.And his headaches are hurting him bad

again. well thats enough.Thanks again for writing me.He sweats alot is this

something LBD does? Arletha

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Yes she does.She has made a lot better than he was when first started seeing

her.He wasn't remembering much at all.He was having a lot more trouble with

finding his words.At times he would forget how to talk.He was really jerking and

shaking.But now we have our good days and our bad ones.We just live one day at a

time. The last visit he asked her what he thought about him as far as LBD. She

told him if he had anywhere or anything he wanted to go or do he should do it in

the next two years.Because he may not be able to enjoy as much?This is one thing

I need to know what is going to happen?? I'm lost.He is very head strong and he

changes his mind so much.You have to know him to know just what I mean.He

takes1-Effexor XR 150 mg twice daliy.But he still has a bad time with

depression.But that is were I think he is in denial? He just doesn't want to

believe he is ill.He has always beena strong man.He feels he losing control of

his life. Guess this is long enough. Arletha

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My husband, also, was in total denial for a while, saying there was nothing

wrong with him. I resented this

a lot....yet, at the same time thought why should both of us suffer? His

friends, also, thought I was

imagining things and even I, at times, thought I was crazy. When I found this

site and started reading

I saw that this was pretty normal for LBD. I must say that I have spent a lot

of time in denial myself!

Even now, reading what is happening with everyones' LO's......I have trouble

picturing us this way....simply

because I don't know how I'm going to survive it. Already, though, I have

dealt with behaviors which I

previously had been certain to not be willing OR able to handle. Arletha, if

you keep reading, you will

KNOW what to expect. It is true that each patient's disease progresses somewhat

differently, but I now

see a common thread.....and, unfortunately, I kind of know what is going to

happen. Hang in there!

Mai-Liis

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