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Thought I would pass along an objective reaction to the INCI labeling. I

was going over my labels last night to make sure everything was correct and

my seventeen-year-old daughter stopped by the desk to take a look. Her

reaction: " What IS this stuff? " When I explained about the ingredient

listing being the same world-wide, her first question was how anyone with an

allergy would know what they were looking at and wasn't that one of the

reasons ingredients had to be listed in the first place. Ummm...she has a

point I guess.

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Beverly,

Those people with an allergy will know because the dermatologist or

allergist will tell them in the same terminology.

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INCI Labeling

Thought I would pass along an objective reaction to the INCI labeling. I

was going over my labels last night to make sure everything was correct and

my seventeen-year-old daughter stopped by the desk to take a look. Her

reaction: " What IS this stuff? " When I explained about the ingredient

listing being the same world-wide, her first question was how anyone with an

allergy would know what they were looking at and wasn't that one of the

reasons ingredients had to be listed in the first place. Ummm...she has a

point I guess.

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Can I get a bit of clarification here??

Are you saying that your daughter didn't understand " olive (olea

europaea) oil " or that she didn't understand " sodium olivate " ?

I ask, not to disparage your daughter or you, but to point out that

BOTH are " INCI labelling " . I'm not sure where the soap myth that

ONLY the " sodium whateverate " form of labelling is " INCI labelling " ,

but that's NOT true. All cosmetic ingredients have " INCI names " . If

you are more comfortable using your readily recognizable raw

ingredient names on your soap labels, that is both acceptable and

correct (of course, providing you use INCI nomenclature). It's also

the way I've chosen to do it. It creates far fewer questions and far

less hesitation in potential customers. I also find it much shorter,

and its easier to be accurate in terms of labelling by decending

weight.

While Sherry is correct in that you lose out on the ability to LABEL

the glycerin by using the ingredients as the label, I don't think

that

the existence of glycerin in soap is such a big thing, myself, and

certainly not worth the extra effort in labelling (that is just my

opinion, of course). And of course, there is nothing stopping you

from mentioning the glycerin in your literature or on your website if

you think it is important.

Jules in Vancouver

> Thought I would pass along an objective reaction to the INCI

labeling. I

> was going over my labels last night to make sure everything was

correct and

> my seventeen-year-old daughter stopped by the desk to take a look.

Her

> reaction: " What IS this stuff? " When I explained about the

ingredient

> listing being the same world-wide, her first question was how

anyone

with an

> allergy would know what they were looking at and wasn't that one of

the

> reasons ingredients had to be listed in the first place.

Ummm...she

has a

> point I guess.

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My daughter wasn't looking at soap labels, but rather a cream label.

Actually, if I remember correctly, she particularly thought the INCI label

for Aloe Vera was funny (as in haha). You couldn't disparage my daughter, so

no need to apologise <g>. She's smart a a whip, but it was a point that

someone who is simply sensitive and not actually allergic to something might

not recognize the ingredients as readily. As I said, might simply be a case

of re-education as it is for people who do the labeling.

- Re: INCI Labeling

Can I get a bit of clarification here??

Are you saying that your daughter didn't understand " olive (olea

europaea) oil " or that she didn't understand " sodium olivate " ?

I ask, not to disparage your daughter or you, but to point out that

BOTH are " INCI labelling " . I'm not sure where the soap myth that

ONLY the " sodium whateverate " form of labelling is " INCI labelling " ,

but that's NOT true. All cosmetic ingredients have " INCI names " . If

you are more comfortable using your readily recognizable raw

ingredient names on your soap labels, that is both acceptable and

correct (of course, providing you use INCI nomenclature). It's also

the way I've chosen to do it. It creates far fewer questions and far

less hesitation in potential customers. I also find it much shorter,

and its easier to be accurate in terms of labelling by decending

weight.

While Sherry is correct in that you lose out on the ability to LABEL

the glycerin by using the ingredients as the label, I don't think

that

the existence of glycerin in soap is such a big thing, myself, and

certainly not worth the extra effort in labelling (that is just my

opinion, of course). And of course, there is nothing stopping you

from mentioning the glycerin in your literature or on your website if

you think it is important.

Jules in Vancouver

> Thought I would pass along an objective reaction to the INCI

labeling. I

> was going over my labels last night to make sure everything was

correct and

> my seventeen-year-old daughter stopped by the desk to take a look.

Her

> reaction: " What IS this stuff? " When I explained about the

ingredient

> listing being the same world-wide, her first question was how

anyone

with an

> allergy would know what they were looking at and wasn't that one of

the

> reasons ingredients had to be listed in the first place.

Ummm...she

has a

> point I guess.

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my apologies, Beverly...with all the talk about soap labelling, I

assumed that was what you were talking about.

I have to agree with Maurice that the 7th edition of INCI names is

much more meaningful than the 8th, as it includes the common name

along with the latin. If you're using the 8th edition, you might

want to consider going back to the 7th until we're forced to switch.

Hopefully that won't happen anytime soon.

Jules

> > Thought I would pass along an objective reaction to the INCI

> labeling. I

> > was going over my labels last night to make sure everything was

> correct and

> > my seventeen-year-old daughter stopped by the desk to take a look.

> Her

> > reaction: " What IS this stuff? " When I explained about the

> ingredient

> > listing being the same world-wide, her first question was how

> anyone

> with an

> > allergy would know what they were looking at and wasn't that one

of

> the

> > reasons ingredients had to be listed in the first place.

> Ummm...she

> has a

> > point I guess.

>

>

>

>

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