Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Hello Eve: Thanks for introducing yourself. It's always a treat to read a new person's story.... I hope you are enjoying your experience at Pacifica. I've heard their mythology program is the best! I attended their clinical psychology program for a full year. But unfortunately it was so divested of Jung and Jungian ideas that I felt cheated! I had gone there hoping to learn about Jungian depth psychology as advertised in their pamplets. Instead, we were taught and surrounded by " Hillmaniacs " whose main goal in life was to " deconstruct Jung! " Is Downing still teaching there? I love her ideas about the Goddess. But God forbid she starts talking about Jung! Hers was the only lecture I ever walked out on! My favorite professors were Jungian analysts, Lionel Corbett and Kathy Rives. Are they still around? The last I heard Lionel had some sort of cancer. I hope he is well.... Do you find a community of kindred spirits at Pacifica? That was my second reason to go to Pacifica, but I didn't find it.... So I left. Your papers on alchemy sounds very interesting. But I'm frankly envious of your planned symposium with Hollis! ;o) I once attended a two-day seminar with him about " the middle passage " and he was just wonderful to listen to. I wanted to absorb everything he said like a sponge. I'm sure yours will be an enriching experience too! I, also, heard a lot about Jung's anti-semitism while I was there. Appropos, just this afternoon, I was reading one of Jung's letters that flies in the face of such accusations: On 20 May 1940, Jung wrote the following letter to an anonymous " Mrs. N. " who had just had an unfortunate experience of the Psyche: " This is just the kind of experience you needed. You trust your [Psyche] as if it were a loving father. But it is *nature* and cannot be made use of as if it were a reliable human being. It is *inhuman* and it needs the human mind to function usefully for man's purposes. Nature is an incomparable guide if you know *how* to follow her. She is like the needle of the compass pointing to the North, which is most useful when you have a good man-made ship and when you know how to navigate. That's about the position. If you follow the river, you surely come to the sea finally. But if you take it literally you soon get stuck in an impassable gorge and you complain of being misguided. " The [Psyche] is useless without the human mind. It always seeks its collective purposes and never your individual destiny. Your destiny is the result of the collaboration between the conscious [ego] and the unconscious [Psyche, or Self]. " I am actually in the mountains with my family and all the little grandchildren avoiding the [Nazi] dangers of Zurich. We all hope and pray for a British victory over the Antichrist [Adolph Hitler]. " So if anyone says anything about Jung's anti-semitism again, you may want to share this letter with them. And thank you for sharing, Ghazaleh In a message dated 07/02/2003 7:43:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eve@... writes: > The older I get, the harder it gets to write these introductions. It's > a slippery task, but I'll try. > > Currently I am completing my second year as myth program at Pacifica > Graduate Institute in Santa Barbara, California. You can check out the > program at www. pacifica. edu. Over the next month I'll write two > papers, one for a course on Alchemy (taught by Jeff Raff, an analyst > based in Colorado), and one for Mythopoetic Expression ( ). > The alchemy paper is leaning toward arguing that the stone has more of > a physical basis than most Jungians believe. The one for > is an exploration of the image of the three monkeys (see no evil). Then > I have comps to complete. Later in the summer my group will attend a > symposium with Hollis and take a course on archetype in film. > Next year I'll formulate my dissertation topic. I find the program > consistently intense and rigorous, and I'd even say transformative at > its best. > > Before this lifetime began, I taught school (many grades, many > subjects) for some 25 years, mostly in Ithaca, New York, and before > that I was a hapless hippie living here and there. The only constant in > my adult life has been my crea (kriya) yoga practice. > > I come from good depth psychological stock, though I was foolish enough > not to recognize it until my relatives were long gone. My mother > studied with Adler in Vienna. She continued to work with him at Penn > when they both found themselves in Philadelphia in the late 1940's. My > aunt chose instead to work with Rank, and I have a cousin (by marriage) > who was Reich's first cousin (though it embarrassed her terribly). I > mention these names to give you an idea of the conversations the women > in my family had as I grew up, an only child among many childless > Viennese refugees. When, as a young adult, I began to read Jung, they > all screeched " but he's an anti-Semite! " at once. I couldn't pursue my > interest until they all died. So here I am today. > > Eve > San Obispo, California > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Thanks for responding, Ghazaleh. I was almost frightened off by the Hillmania (I am not a fan of Hillman at all, though I respect some of his ideas), too, and for other reasons, but something re-aroused my eros this last quarter, and I'm excited about being at Pacifica again. I would agree that the program doesn't live up to the brochure in many ways, but there are other unexpected pleasures. I am very much looking forward to a week with Hollis. I loved Tracking the Gods. We were scheduled to have Lionel Corbett this fall but someone else is now teaching the class. I love him too, and have had meals with him a few times, so I worry that he's not teaching it for bad reasons. I know he enjoys the myth students. Downing is very present. I just had her for Greek Myth II. She's certainly entertaining. As to finding a community, well, the myth students are quite a different breed from the psych groups, artists, writers, a real mix. I've made many good friends, but ultimately, I don't know how many of us will stay connected. We'll see. I wrote a paper on Jung and anti-semitism for Glen Slater (Australian analyst) early on. I had to deal with my mother's voice. If we ever get it together, fa will post it on her website. I used Jung's letters pretty extensively for it - and even referred to the quote you use! I let him off the hook, of course. My mother shifted in her grave, but she had to admit that she was wrong in the end. Eve On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 08:43 PM, Ghazaleh@... wrote: > Hello Eve: > > Thanks for introducing yourself. It's always a treat to read a new > person's > story.... I hope you are enjoying your experience at Pacifica. I've > heard their > mythology program is the best! I attended their clinical psychology > program > for a full year. But unfortunately it was so divested of Jung and > Jungian ideas > that I felt cheated! I had gone there hoping to learn about Jungian > depth > psychology as advertised in their pamplets. Instead, we were taught and > surrounded by " Hillmaniacs " whose main goal in life was to > " deconstruct Jung! " Is > Downing still teaching there? I love her ideas about the > Goddess. But God > forbid she starts talking about Jung! Hers was the only lecture I ever > walked > out on! > My favorite professors were Jungian analysts, Lionel Corbett and Kathy > Rives. > Are they still around? The last I heard Lionel had some sort of > cancer. I > hope he is well.... > > Do you find a community of kindred spirits at Pacifica? That was my > second > reason to go to Pacifica, but I didn't find it.... So I left. Your > papers on > alchemy sounds very interesting. But I'm frankly envious of your > planned > symposium with Hollis! ;o) I once attended a two-day seminar > with him about > " the middle passage " and he was just wonderful to listen to. I wanted > to absorb > everything he said like a sponge. I'm sure yours will be an enriching > experience too! > > I, also, heard a lot about Jung's anti-semitism while I was there. > Appropos, > just this afternoon, I was reading one of Jung's letters that flies in > the > face of such accusations: > > On 20 May 1940, Jung wrote the following letter to an anonymous " Mrs. > N. " > who had just had an unfortunate experience of the Psyche: > > " This is just the kind of experience you needed. You trust your > [Psyche] as > if it were a loving father. But it is *nature* and cannot be made use > of as if > it were a reliable human being. It is *inhuman* and it needs the human > mind to > function usefully for man's purposes. Nature is an incomparable guide > if you > know *how* to follow her. She is like the needle of the compass > pointing to > the North, which is most useful when you have a good man-made ship and > when you > know how to navigate. That's about the position. If you follow the > river, you > surely come to the sea finally. But if you take it literally you soon > get > stuck in an impassable gorge and you complain of being misguided. > > " The [Psyche] is useless without the human mind. It always seeks its > collective purposes and never your individual destiny. Your destiny is > the result of > the collaboration between the conscious [ego] and the unconscious > [Psyche, or > Self]. > > " I am actually in the mountains with my family and all the little > grandchildren avoiding the [Nazi] dangers of Zurich. We all hope and > pray for a British > victory over the Antichrist [Adolph Hitler]. " > > So if anyone says anything about Jung's anti-semitism again, you may > want to > share this letter with them. > > And thank you for sharing, > > Ghazaleh > > In a message dated 07/02/2003 7:43:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > eve@... writes: > > > > The older I get, the harder it gets to write these introductions. > It's > > a slippery task, but I'll try. > > > > Currently I am completing my second year as myth program at Pacifica > > Graduate Institute in Santa Barbara, California. You can check out > the > > program at www. pacifica. edu. Over the next month I'll write two > > papers, one for a course on Alchemy (taught by Jeff Raff, an analyst > > based in Colorado), and one for Mythopoetic Expression ( > ). > > The alchemy paper is leaning toward arguing that the stone has more > of > > a physical basis than most Jungians believe. The one for > > is an exploration of the image of the three monkeys (see no evil). > Then > > I have comps to complete. Later in the summer my group will attend a > > symposium with Hollis and take a course on archetype in film. > > Next year I'll formulate my dissertation topic. I find the program > > consistently intense and rigorous, and I'd even say transformative at > > its best. > > > > Before this lifetime began, I taught school (many grades, many > > subjects) for some 25 years, mostly in Ithaca, New York, and before > > that I was a hapless hippie living here and there. The only constant > in > > my adult life has been my crea (kriya) yoga practice. > > > > I come from good depth psychological stock, though I was foolish > enough > > not to recognize it until my relatives were long gone. My mother > > studied with Adler in Vienna. She continued to work with him at Penn > > when they both found themselves in Philadelphia in the late 1940's. > My > > aunt chose instead to work with Rank, and I have a cousin (by > marriage) > > who was Reich's first cousin (though it embarrassed her terribly). I > > mention these names to give you an idea of the conversations the > women > > in my family had as I grew up, an only child among many childless > > Viennese refugees. When, as a young adult, I began to read Jung, they > > all screeched " but he's an anti-Semite! " at once. I couldn't pursue > my > > interest until they all died. So here I am today. > > > > Eve > > San Obispo, California > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 In a message dated 7/2/2003 9:43:17 PM Central Daylight Time, eve@... writes: > Currently I am completing my second year as myth program at Pacifica > Graduate Institute in Santa Barbara, California. > > > > Before this lifetime began, I taught school (many grades, many > subjects) for some 25 years, > Hi Eve, It's nice to meet someone else who has been around a bit and is also currently involved in taking courses. I'm taking courses in transpersonal studies from Atlantic University (so we're on opposite " ends " it seems) and, of course, there's a strong Jungian influence. I enjoy them tremendously even though they are a strain once in a while. The discussions on this group are wonderful for adding perspective and knowledge and I'm sure you'll enjoy them. >The alchemy paper is leaning toward arguing that the stone has more of >a physical basis than most Jungians believe. I'd be interested in your arguments and conclusions and hope you'll post some of your writing here. >I come from good depth psychological stock, though I was foolish enough >not to recognize it until my relatives were long gone. Ain't that always the way it is! LOL >The older I get, the harder it gets to write these introductions. It's >a slippery task, but I'll try. I think you done good. *S* I'm not even sure I ever wrote an intro for this group, I just was ill-mannered enough to jump right into a discussion. Maybe that's part of the reason I still feel like such a newbie. Anyway, looking forward to your contributions. Oh, btw, in spite of the name, I'm female. *G* Namasté Sam in Texas §(ô¿ô)§ Minds are like parachutes; they only function when open. - Sir Dewar A closed mind is a good thing to lose. " Minds are like parachutes; most people use them only as a last resort. " ~Ben Ostrowsky Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set. ~mrantho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Alice O. Howell Rosecroft Box 177 Monterey, MA 01245-0177 USA Tel: Fax: " Look for the sacred in the commonplace! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Well, welcome Eve! u n Toni will have fun! Please give my love to , Lionel Corbett, n Walter Od! n Rick Tarnas if still there? Pacifica is a super place fr wh I've heard. We look forw to yr contrib! love Alice O. Howell ps have had strke unable use rt hand, hence abbrevs am 80 n 1/3 'motherator' of this list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Eve: I'm glad that you have found Eros at Pacifica this last quarter. If it's not too personal to share, I'd like to learn how you discovered it. I had Glen Slater for " cultural psychology " once, and I really did like him. He was the only Hillmanian there who actually respected Jung and quoted from him. I was very distressed when the school let him go for a year or so, for petty reasons. But I'm glad he's back to teaching there. I know Lionel loved teaching the myth program more than anything else. But as you know, there's a lot of politics involved at the upper levels. He was very instrumental in my life at Pacifica. Recently, he wrote a very enlightening article about " The Dark Side of the Self, September 11, and a Depth Psychology of Terrorism. " I think many on this list may find it interesting. You can find it at the following link: http://www.cgjungpage.org/articles/sept11corbett.html BTW, I love Tarnas' book on Prometheus. As an Aquarian, Prometheus happens to be my myth. But I would like to learn more about Epimetheus. Good to have you here. Ghazaleh In a message dated 07/02/2003 10:17:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eve@... writes: > Thanks for responding, Ghazaleh. > > I was almost frightened off by the Hillmania (I am not a fan of Hillman > at all, though I respect some of his ideas), too, and for other > reasons, but something re-aroused my eros this last quarter, and I'm > excited about being at Pacifica again. I would agree that the program > doesn't live up to the brochure in many ways, but there are other > unexpected pleasures. I am very much looking forward to a week with > Hollis. I loved Tracking the Gods. > > We were scheduled to have Lionel Corbett this fall but someone else is > now teaching the class. I love him too, and have had meals with him a > few times, so I worry that he's not teaching it for bad reasons. I know > he enjoys the myth students. > > Downing is very present. I just had her for Greek Myth II. She's > certainly entertaining. > > As to finding a community, well, the myth students are quite a > different breed from the psych groups, artists, writers, a real mix. > I've made many good friends, but ultimately, I don't know how many of > us will stay connected. We'll see. > > I wrote a paper on Jung and anti-semitism for Glen Slater (Australian > analyst) early on. I had to deal with my mother's voice. If we ever get > it together, fa will post it on her website. I used Jung's letters > pretty extensively for it - and even referred to the quote you use! I > let him off the hook, of course. My mother shifted in her grave, but > she had to admit that she was wrong in the end. > > Eve > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Dear Eve, Welcome and it sounds wonderful all of it. You say you were a Vienna refuge? Well, so was I.We got here in September 1939. My family atmosphere was similar but the subject was not psychology. I always wished I could do what you are doing, but with my family, and husbands career, it was not possible. besides when I could have I was too old for it. Good to have you here. Toni Introduction > The older I get, the harder it gets to write these introductions. It's > a slippery task, but I'll try. > > Currently I am completing my second year as myth program at Pacifica > Graduate Institute in Santa Barbara, California. You can check out the > program at www. pacifica. edu. Over the next month I'll write two > papers, one for a course on Alchemy (taught by Jeff Raff, an analyst > based in Colorado), and one for Mythopoetic Expression ( ). > The alchemy paper is leaning toward arguing that the stone has more of > a physical basis than most Jungians believe. The one for > is an exploration of the image of the three monkeys (see no evil). Then > I have comps to complete. Later in the summer my group will attend a > symposium with Hollis and take a course on archetype in film. > Next year I'll formulate my dissertation topic. I find the program > consistently intense and rigorous, and I'd even say transformative at > its best. > > Before this lifetime began, I taught school (many grades, many > subjects) for some 25 years, mostly in Ithaca, New York, and before > that I was a hapless hippie living here and there. The only constant in > my adult life has been my crea (kriya) yoga practice. > > I come from good depth psychological stock, though I was foolish enough > not to recognize it until my relatives were long gone. My mother > studied with Adler in Vienna. She continued to work with him at Penn > when they both found themselves in Philadelphia in the late 1940's. My > aunt chose instead to work with Rank, and I have a cousin (by marriage) > who was Reich's first cousin (though it embarrassed her terribly). I > mention these names to give you an idea of the conversations the women > in my family had as I grew up, an only child among many childless > Viennese refugees. When, as a young adult, I began to read Jung, they > all screeched " but he's an anti-Semite! " at once. I couldn't pursue my > interest until they all died. So here I am today. > > Eve > San Obispo, California > > > > > > > > Adversity is the trial of principle. Without it, a man hardly knows > whether he is honest or not. > ~ Henry Fielding > > > > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby beings may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and suffering. " > > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Thanks to all of you for the welcomes! Alice, I will indeed pass on your greetings. Unfortunately Rick Tarnas only does an occasional lecture now, though he used to teach a course. He was one of the reasons I became interested in the place. I'm very interested in his work. In fact, I may do my dissertation on Epimetheus, who's Prometheus's twin, in which case I would draw on his Prometheus work. Eve > Well, welcome Eve! u n Toni will have fun! > > Please give my love to , Lionel Corbett, n Walter Od! n > Rick > Tarnas if still there? > > Pacifica is a super place fr wh I've heard. > > We look forw to yr contrib! > > love > > Alice O. Howell > > ps have had strke unable use rt hand, hence abbrevs > > am 80 n 1/3 'motherator' of this list! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Toni, I was born in the States. My parents left Vienna in '38. My mother had been in medical school at the university and my father owned a small shop where he made and sold imitation Bauhaus furniture. They lived in Paris for a year, then were in hiding in the French countryside, and finally came to the US in 1942 via Spain and Portugal. Their adventures make a good story. Though my father was Jewish, they were primarily political refugees and were protected by a network of social democrats. I'm interested to hear your story too. Eve > Dear Eve, > Welcome and it sounds wonderful all of it. > You say you were a Vienna refuge? Well, so was I.We got here in > September > 1939. > My family atmosphere was similar but the subject was not psychology. > I always wished I could do what you are doing, but with my family, and > husbands career, it was not possible. besides when I could have I was > too > old for it. > > Good to have you here. > Toni > > Introduction > > > > The older I get, the harder it gets to write these introductions. > It's > > a slippery task, but I'll try. > > > > Currently I am completing my second year as myth program at Pacifica > > Graduate Institute in Santa Barbara, California. You can check out > the > > program at www. pacifica. edu. Over the next month I'll write two > > papers, one for a course on Alchemy (taught by Jeff Raff, an analyst > > based in Colorado), and one for Mythopoetic Expression ( > ). > > The alchemy paper is leaning toward arguing that the stone has more > of > > a physical basis than most Jungians believe. The one for > > is an exploration of the image of the three monkeys (see no evil). > Then > > I have comps to complete. Later in the summer my group will attend a > > symposium with Hollis and take a course on archetype in film. > > Next year I'll formulate my dissertation topic. I find the program > > consistently intense and rigorous, and I'd even say transformative at > > its best. > > > > Before this lifetime began, I taught school (many grades, many > > subjects) for some 25 years, mostly in Ithaca, New York, and before > > that I was a hapless hippie living here and there. The only constant > in > > my adult life has been my crea (kriya) yoga practice. > > > > I come from good depth psychological stock, though I was foolish > enough > > not to recognize it until my relatives were long gone. My mother > > studied with Adler in Vienna. She continued to work with him at Penn > > when they both found themselves in Philadelphia in the late 1940's. > My > > aunt chose instead to work with Rank, and I have a cousin (by > marriage) > > who was Reich's first cousin (though it embarrassed her terribly). I > > mention these names to give you an idea of the conversations the > women > > in my family had as I grew up, an only child among many childless > > Viennese refugees. When, as a young adult, I began to read Jung, they > > all screeched " but he's an anti-Semite! " at once. I couldn't pursue > my > > interest until they all died. So here I am today. > > > > Eve > > San Obispo, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adversity is the trial of principle. Without it, a man hardly knows > > whether he is honest or not. > > ~ Henry Fielding > > > > > > > > " Our highest duty as human beings is to search out a means whereby > beings > may be freed from all kinds of unsatisfactory experience and > suffering. " > > > > H.H. Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th. Dalai Lama > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 > Ghazaleh, I don't mind sharing my (relative) reawakening. I think what happened to me in my life is meant to happen to myth students at Pacifica, and maybe to all Pacifica students. spoke of becoming disillusioned in his introductory talk to us: he said, " I wish you all disillusionment. " And, times being what they are, it made sense for me to have something of an underworld experience of some sort last fall and winter. (I seem to be prone to experiencing whatever the world is going through on a personal level - I imagine others on these lists are similarly sensitive.) There are many possible starting points to this story. This is one. A little over a year ago, both Glen Slater (my favorite, and I'm pleased to say that not only is he back, but he's chair of the depth program as well as offering to be on myth dissertation committees) and Kathleen Jenks mentioned the value of putting effort into developing one's inferior function. Interesting synchronicity. Then driving home, I listened to on tape, and damned if he didn't bring up the same concept. The following day was May 1, and my women's circle was celebrating traditionally by jumping over a fire into a new phase of life. I jumped and called out for the opportunity to explore the sensate realms, my inferior function by far. As these things go, it wasn't long before I noticed that I wasn't hearing as well as people around me. Actually it was nothing new; I'd just managed to not attend to a progressive loss for over 40 years. Telescoping the tale a bit, I spent the next nine months or so dealing with my ears in a very concrete manner. While I was busy staying focused on little else than my increasingly rapid decline in contact with the world of outer sound, classes at Pacifica seemed to only be offering only opportunities to learn what I already knew. Papers were agony to write. Who's interested in exploring ideas understood thirty years ago? I began to look for signs to indicate another path for me to follow. All pointed to leaving Pacifica, but I seemed to be jumping ship with no land in sight. Then, spring quarter, I made an appointment with Mahaffey to fill out leave papers. The day of the appointment I had Dennis Slattery for Nature and Psyche, which turned out to be one of those extraordinary gems you find once in a while at places like Pacifica. I decided to stay the quarter. Dennis assigned us forays into nature, accompanied by journal and artwork and inspiring readings. Day after day I went out and wrote and painted and read surrounded by archetypal forms, cycles, and patterns. There is nothing in the world that I could have done that would have been more healing. Pacifica gave me exactly what I needed exactly when I needed it. What more could I ask? So, I'm staying on, and suddenly my dissertation seems very interesting again. You know Prometheus looks ahead, and Epimetheus looks around and within? That's one of the core ideas I'm playing with. Eve > Dear Eve: > > I'm glad that you have found Eros at Pacifica this last quarter. If > it's not > too personal to share, I'd like to learn how you discovered it. > > I had Glen Slater for " cultural psychology " once, and I really did > like him. > He was the only Hillmanian there who actually respected Jung and > quoted from > him. > I was very distressed when the school let him go for a year or so, for > petty > reasons. But I'm glad he's back to teaching there. > > I know Lionel loved teaching the myth program more than anything else. > But as > you know, there's a lot of politics involved at the upper levels. He > was very > instrumental in my life at Pacifica. Recently, he wrote a very > enlightening > article about " The Dark Side of the Self, September 11, and a Depth > Psychology > of Terrorism. " I think many on this list may find it interesting. You > can find > it at the following link: > > http://www.cgjungpage.org/articles/sept11corbett.html > > BTW, I love Tarnas' book on Prometheus. As an Aquarian, Prometheus > happens to > be my myth. But I would like to learn more about Epimetheus. > > Good to have you here. > > Ghazaleh > > In a message dated 07/02/2003 10:17:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > eve@... writes: > > > > Thanks for responding, Ghazaleh. > > > > I was almost frightened off by the Hillmania (I am not a fan of > Hillman > > at all, though I respect some of his ideas), too, and for other > > reasons, but something re-aroused my eros this last quarter, and I'm > > excited about being at Pacifica again. I would agree that the program > > doesn't live up to the brochure in many ways, but there are other > > unexpected pleasures. I am very much looking forward to a week with > > Hollis. I loved Tracking the Gods. > > > > We were scheduled to have Lionel Corbett this fall but someone else > is > > now teaching the class. I love him too, and have had meals with him a > > few times, so I worry that he's not teaching it for bad reasons. I > know > > he enjoys the myth students. > > > > Downing is very present. I just had her for Greek Myth II. > She's > > certainly entertaining. > > > > As to finding a community, well, the myth students are quite a > > different breed from the psych groups, artists, writers, a real mix. > > I've made many good friends, but ultimately, I don't know how many of > > us will stay connected. We'll see. > > > > I wrote a paper on Jung and anti-semitism for Glen Slater (Australian > > analyst) early on. I had to deal with my mother's voice. If we ever > get > > it together, fa will post it on her website. I used Jung's > letters > > pretty extensively for it - and even referred to the quote you use! I > > let him off the hook, of course. My mother shifted in her grave, but > > she had to admit that she was wrong in the end. > > > > Eve > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 > > Hi, > > ... I'm new in this list and take the opportunity for greet everybody. > ...I'd like sharing with you ideas and information and above all > learning from you all. ... Pull up a rock and stay while. Mind you don't stumble over the log pile over yonder. You're welcomed to throw on a log once in a while. We look forward to learning from you, too! APMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2003 Report Share Posted October 24, 2003 benissimo! siamo gioiosa! btw check out LA COLOMBA NELLA ROCCIA editione piume...........aoh;] love ao [old lady motherator] Alice O. Howell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 LOL! Thank you for the suggestion, old lady, but..... elaborate please? sorry I am so new that I need enlightenement. EDIZIONI PIUME??????? You sure? Love back IonaDove@... wrote: benissimo! siamo gioiosa! btw check out LA COLOMBA NELLA ROCCIA editione piume...........aoh;] love ao [old lady motherator] Alice O. Howell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 LOL! Thank you for the suggestion, old lady, but..... elaborate please? sorry I am so new that I need enlightenement. EDIZIONI PIUME??????? You sure? Love back Michele IonaDove@... wrote: benissimo! siamo gioiosa! btw check out LA COLOMBA NELLA ROCCIA editione piume...........aoh;] love ao [old lady motherator] Alice O. Howell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 scasatemi PIEMME, Milano Typo! my apologies ao Alice O. Howell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi, I am new here and am searching for answers to help my 25 yr old daughter. We have EDS and my daughter has been even more ill the past year and a half as multiple joints dislocate spontaneously. Since a virus in April, she has had frequent blackouts lasting from minutes to hours. Her cognitive abilities are very affected after the blackouts and she can lose hearing or sight, too, temporarily. She gets some relief after her physio treats her neck. Which led me to your wonderful group while searching for answers. We suspect she has cranial spinal instability and has always suffered neurological problems. We are Aussies and there are no EDS doctors in our state, even. My daughter is suffering greatly and we don't know how to help her. We are desperate to improve her situation. We are tired of not being believed or understood. Any ideas would be welcome. The posts I have read so far sound so familiar, including hypersensitivity to changes in barometric pressure. I feel I am among people who understand - at last. Meredith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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