Guest guest Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I do not know the true intentions of waldinger, i do know he has had contact with other specialists, explaining pssd for patients. This has surely helped me and also others...As of now i will keep my dialogue with him... I am determined to fight for external exposure.And if not waldinger,Than i am willing to cooperate with any other specialist willing to put emphasis on pssd for our cause. Keeping an internal focus will not help us in the end....I do wonder how dostinex will work,Hopecyou canckeep us posted!Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPadOp 15 jan. 2012 om 20:19 heeft Adam Ballerini het volgende geschreven: I don't think waldinger really want's to go against big pharma, it seems like he's not sure with us. The truth is high serotonin in the synapse is what causes low dopamine and PSSD, most people with fucking PSSD have less mental issues like there still on meds, which in a way gets the pharmacuticals mad because they want you to continue to purchase there drugs , they don't want the effects to last after use. They say in Thoery they are pretty sure how SSRIs work in the Brain, So in Theory make a drug that works the opposite, something that removes serotonin from the synapse and gives everybody there mental issues back with sexual pleasure, then we can use therapy to get better. I am thinking about giving dostinex as a drug- I have good erections sometimes however the dullness and muted orgasm is the killer, after quting drugs ejaculation was back and easier,erections got better, however orgasm and sensation are deeply muted, what chemicals are responsible for sensations . To: SSRIsex Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:04:05 PM Subject: Re: PSSD and ECT I know that there is a recuring fad to use ECT for depression, especially if drugs don't seem effective. However, please do not consider this for yourselves. Back in the early '70s I worked in Psych and assisted with ECT. I saw some people regress to the point of needing to wear diapers. Many people permanently loose precious memories of when their children were young, etc. There's no telling how much brain damage you will suffer. Ernest Hemingway committed suicide after being given ECT. He claimed it was "a brilliant cure" but that it took away his source of income. In my opinion, this barbaric treatment is about as effective as hitting someone over the head with a baseball bat, thereby giving them amnesia,and erasing memories, both good and bad. "Forget your troubles, come on get happy...." Kay > > I'd really like to know if anyone with PSSD has tried ECT (for whatever reason) and what was the effect on sexuality?!? > I wonder if shocking the brain (not that I recommend it) can sorta re-boot the system and get things going > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Hi, I'm " " on this thread on Propeciahelp. Read the answer from " awor " .. http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33 & t=5282 & start=260 " The common denominator between antidepressants and 5AR inhibitors such as finasteride, is presumably that antidepressants also significantly reduce cellular androgen levels by inducing an enzyme called 3a-HSD by up to 163 times. 3a-HSD turns DHT into the inactive androgen 3a-diol-G. Therefore, activation of the AR is significantly reduced, just like is the case with other 5ARI's. The mechanism we found strongly supports this conclusion. " Maybe Waldinger wants to get in touch with these scientists..? > > > > > > I'd really like to know if anyone with PSSD has tried ECT (for whatever reason) and what was the effect on sexuality?!? > > > I wonder if shocking the brain (not that I recommend it) can sorta re-boot the system and get things going > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I have just read about the sexual side effects caused by propecia…I knew about these problems; but never read indept about the theory behind them. They seem to be completely in line with the side effects caused by SSRI's. Aparently the same damage has been done, but the theory is different from the possible causes theorised for PSSD. I am very keen on getting insight on the progress of research being done, Propecia help seems an enormous source of information. I guess we as PSSD sufferors can learn a lot from the steps taken to get the syndrome in the spotlight. Those articles in Men's health are great! In my conversation with Waldinger I will put forward your information. > > > > > > > > I'd really like to know if anyone with PSSD has tried ECT (for whatever reason) and what was the effect on sexuality?!? > > > > I wonder if shocking the brain (not that I recommend it) can sorta re-boot the system and get things going > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 "He claimed it was 'a brilliant cure' but that it took away his source of income." It opens ion channels in the brain, and on a fundamental level sort of does "reboot" things. But it often accompanies severe memory loss; Hemingway forgot his entire youth IIRC. I read of a woman who had so-so improvement after ECT but forgot all her college years, her young adulthood and the early stages of rearing her children.So I dunno, maybe it would be worth the risk if you're going to kill yourself anyway, but I would never consider it. I had it offered to me, even threatened to have it given to me objection or not, but I managed to convince the psychiatrist I wasn't actually fucking crazy and I just wanted help.Mental health man. What a joke.From: Adam Ballerini Subject: TheoriesTo: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex >Received: Sunday, 15 January, 2012, 7:19 PM I don't think waldinger really want's to go against big pharma, it seems like he's not sure with us. The truth is high serotonin in the synapse is what causes low dopamine and PSSD, most people with fucking PSSD have less mental issues like there still on meds, which in a way gets the pharmacuticals mad because they want you to continue to purchase there drugs , they don't want the effects to last after use. They say in Thoery they are pretty sure how SSRIs work in the Brain, So in Theory make a drug that works the opposite, something that removes serotonin from the synapse and gives everybody there mental issues back with sexual pleasure, then we can use therapy to get better. I am thinking about giving dostinex as a drug- I have good erections sometimes however the dullness and muted orgasm is the killer, after quting drugs ejaculation was back and easier,erections got better, however orgasm and sensation are deeply muted, what chemicals are responsible for sensations . To: SSRIsex Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:04:05 PM Subject: Re: PSSD and ECT I know that there is a recuring fad to use ECT for depression, especially if drugs don't seem effective. However, please do not consider this for yourselves. Back in the early '70s I worked in Psych and assisted with ECT. I saw some people regress to the point of needing to wear diapers. Many people permanently loose precious memories of when their children were young, etc. There's no telling how much brain damage you will suffer. Ernest Hemingway committed suicide after being given ECT. He claimed it was "a brilliant cure" but that it took away his source of income. In my opinion, this barbaric treatment is about as effective as hitting someone over the head with a baseball bat, thereby giving them amnesia,and erasing memories, both good and bad. "Forget your troubles, come on get happy...." Kay > > I'd really like to know if anyone with PSSD has tried ECT (for whatever reason) and what was the effect on sexuality?!? > I wonder if shocking the brain (not that I recommend it) can sorta re-boot the system and get things going > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Let's hope they will find the answer. If not we are fucked. > > > > > > > > > > I'd really like to know if anyone with PSSD has tried ECT (for > whatever reason) and what was the effect on sexuality?!? > > > > > I wonder if shocking the brain (not that I recommend it) can > sorta re-boot the system and get things going > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Has anyone tried reaching the auther to see if he would cover PSSD? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd really like to know if anyone with PSSD has tried ECT (for whatever reason) and what was the effect on sexuality?!? > > > > > > > I wonder if shocking the brain (not that I recommend it) can sorta re-boot the system and get things going > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I sometimes get really get good morning wood, and I still may sometimes have interest in porn however I don't watch it because it's worse for sex drive and desensatizes you. All my sexual pleasure is basically extremely muted. To: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:09:34 PM Subject: Re: Re: Theories I have the same.I am able to have sex and get an erection in the face of a woman. Masturbating does not provide a good enough erection sometimes not even a reaction. Nor does it give pleasure. Noctual erections are soft or non. Spontanous erections are not there during the day.My libido is however gone. I do not have sexual fantasies, nor "wet dreams", nor physical lust for females. I am not even interested in porn movies or porn pictures.Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPadOp 22 jan. 2012 om 04:35 heeft Adam Ballerini het volgende geschreven: How many males suffering from PSSD can still obtain and erection and have sex.I am one dude who can get an good erection however it's taker longer than usual to obtain and i still have numbness which makes the erection go away, I can probably have sex ,mostly psychological pleasure because I have some libido''very low'' but still there. From: michael shounder To: "SSRIsex " <SSRIsex > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:08:09 PM Subject: Re: Re: Theories Troublesome, Buspar is said to be both a dopamine agonist and antagonist. (I can't even try to understand that!)...BUT it has been shown in this study to increase dopamine levels 100%. http://biopsychiatry.com/busmech.htm It also aids oxytocin which together with increased dopamine probably helps some with PSSD. Mike To: SSRIsex Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:50 PMSubject: Re: Theories I'm thinking that the ssri's lowered our natural chemicals in our brains serotonin and dopamine. Supposedly dopamine recovers faster than serotonin in the brain. Our brains definitely have been altered, but I highly doubt that our problem is "too much serotonin" that doesn't make sense to me. Buspar helped me and has helped others, and Buspar raises serotonin and I think it blocks some dopamine. Why would taking this help people with PSSD?> > > > > >> > > > > > I'd really like to know if anyone with PSSD has tried ECT (for> > whatever reason) and what was the effect on sexuality?!?> > > > > > I wonder if shocking the brain (not that I recommend it) can> > sorta re-boot the system and get things going> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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