Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I think there should be much more education on the subject. It should start in school. If you grew up with the notion of organ donation you may be more comfortable making the decision. But the true fact is that people talk around the subject or avoid it completely. I think the second ambulance thing may be a good idea if you are dying of home and it is something that can prearranged by hopsice or something. It may also be of benefit to look at how to make the regionalized donor system be more efficient. MaC abijann <no_reply > wrote: I cannot imagine anyone calling me up and saying to me that my husband died in a car accident and, hey, by the way he has an organ donor card...can we take his organs now. I would think that the shock alone of losing my loved one and then saying go ahead and after thinking it over decides that I really didn't want it done would stick with the person the rest of their life. Some people don't want to see their loved ones body dissected. They don't want to think that they may accidentally been too hasty and killed their loved one in the process. Most family members want to see their loved ones body just as it is before they make such a decision..it helps them come to terms with the fact that they are truly gone. Being able to go in and say a prayer around a loved one body or just right before they pass on, is of a comfort to the family. Sure their loved one has died, but that is still their flesh and blood and someone they have known most of their life. Each life is very special. This will probably give some people nightmares about having their organs taken while they are still alive, just as much fear as being buried when they are still alive. When someone donates an organ or signs a donor card...they believe they are giving someone a gift and a chance to live longer. They should not be scared that they won't be dead at the time or that the family will be tortured in the process when they are already grieving. I'm for organ donation....but, to me, this ambulance chasing for procurement of organs is not one of them. I really wonder how they can condone this and the UNOS stand behind them in something like this. If someone dies before the reach the hospital...then the hospital could notify Unos of a potential death so the organ could be taken...but testing or a doctor needs to be present in order to make that determination...not an ambulance crew member. There is too much room here left open for someone to be sued because of this. That is my opinion, what is yours? __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Abijann, count yourself lucky that in this country , the law of presumed consent is probably years and years away. The prevailing attitudes are just too much in line with what you express as your opinion. But in many European countries, including Spain, France, Netherlands, Denmark, the law says that if you do NOT want to be an automatic organ donor, you MUST opt out be signing an non organ donor card. I did a blog post about it http://billybobswildride.blogspot.com/2008/01/presumed-consent.html and it has been in the news lately, and is sure to make it into the political scene sometime. The simple fact that most people when asked state that they would like to be organ donors, but the numbers of registered organ donors is 2%. The feeling of the grass roots organization http://www.presumedconsent.org/solutions.htm is that it would be much much easier to track the 2% who opt out than it is to track the 2% who register to donate. Organ procurement I cannot imagine anyone calling me up and saying to me that my husband died in a car accident and, hey, by the way he has an organ donor card...can we take his organs now. I would think that the shock alone of losing my loved one and then saying go ahead and after thinking it over decides that I really didn't want it done would stick with the person the rest of their life. Some people don't want to see their loved ones body dissected. They don't want to think that they may accidentally been too hasty and killed their loved one in the process. Most family members want to see their loved ones body just as it is before they make such a decision..it helps them come to terms with the fact that they are truly gone. Being able to go in and say a prayer around a loved one body or just right before they pass on, is of a comfort to the family. Sure their loved one has died, but that is still their flesh and blood and someone they have known most of their life. Each life is very special. This will probably give some people nightmares about having their organs taken while they are still alive, just as much fear as being buried when they are still alive. When someone donates an organ or signs a donor card...they believe they are giving someone a gift and a chance to live longer. They should not be scared that they won't be dead at the time or that the family will be tortured in the process when they are already grieving. I'm for organ donation.... but, to me, this ambulance chasing for procurement of organs is not one of them. I really wonder how they can condone this and the UNOS stand behind them in something like this. If someone dies before the reach the hospital...then the hospital could notify Unos of a potential death so the organ could be taken...but testing or a doctor needs to be present in order to make that determination. ..not an ambulance crew member. There is too much room here left open for someone to be sued because of this. That is my opinion, what is yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hi Abijan, I can understand your concern and I am all for organ transplants for those who want one. My first gastro explained that cadaver livers are hard to come by and many die waiting for one. I think its important for people to talk to their spouses, parents and children as to whether they want to donate or not. Second put it in writing in an advance directive or 5 wishes document. Make your wishes clear and concise so there will be no family fight over it when the time comes. Although most of my organs would be rejected for transplant DUH! They also procure organs, skin, eyes etc for medical experimentation, so I have decided for myself to donate whatever they may feel they want. My husband has put in writing that they can have his organs for donation ONLY. I believe there are a lot of misconceptions about organ donation and like Mac, I think that more people should be educated about it. Maybe not in school, but on tv programs and public service commercials. We see commercials about everything from feminine hygiene to Viagra, but death and the need the for organs is still taboo in America. Maybe there could be a campaign that when anyone sees their doctors they are given info or pamphlet on exactly when and how an organ is procured and the need for more donors. I would rather give the gift of life than take it with me just to burn as Im cremated or in others case, rot in the ground. God Bless, Debra > > I cannot imagine anyone calling me up and saying to me that my > husband died in a car accident and, hey, by the way he has an > organ donor card...can we take his organs now. I would think > that the shock alone of losing my loved one and then saying go > ahead and after thinking it over decides that I really didn't > want it done would stick with the person the rest of their > life. > > Some people don't want to see their loved ones body dissected. > They don't want to think that they may accidentally been too > hasty and killed their loved one in the process. Most > family members want to see their loved ones body just as > it is before they make such a decision..it helps them come > to terms with the fact that they are truly gone. Being able > to go in and say a prayer around a loved one body or just > right before they pass on, is of a comfort to the family. > Sure their loved one has died, but that is still their flesh > and blood and someone they have known most of their life. > Each life is very special. > > This will probably give some people nightmares about having > their organs taken while they are still alive, just as > much fear as being buried when they are still alive. > > When someone donates an organ or signs a donor card...they > believe they are giving someone a gift and a chance to live > longer. They should not be scared that they won't be dead > at the time or that the family will be tortured in the > process when they are already grieving. > > I'm for organ donation....but, to me, this ambulance > chasing for procurement of organs is not one of them. > I really wonder how they can condone this and the > UNOS stand behind them in something like this. If > someone dies before the reach the hospital...then the > hospital could notify Unos of a potential death so the > organ could be taken...but testing or a doctor needs > to be present in order to make that determination...not > an ambulance crew member. There is too much room here left > open for someone to be sued because of this. > > That is my opinion, what is yours? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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