Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 You need to download Dr. Shoemaker's testimony in front of the US Congress and show them that. Assuming that you are in the US. Would you be able to tell us where these people are? It seems as if they might need some people to call them and tell them their stories. BTW, many of us are in communication with many public health officials in various ways on a daily basis, and although they all realize the political situation, they OFTEN also are very understanding and aware of the situation with toxic molds and mycotoxins. If YOUR local officials already have THEIR minds made up and no amount of conflicting information will open their eyes, then THEY are the ones who have serious mental issues IMO and THEY are the ones that should be being evaluated. Normal people and certainly all scientists reaize that human knowledge is an evolving thing and that what was thought to be true yesterday is often seen differently today or tomorrow as new facts become available.. HTH On 11/20/06, salzberglver3 <salzberglver3@...> wrote: > > Update... > My son and I went to see an infectious disease doctor who told us that > our medical history was crap and that there is no such thing as > chemical intolerance (she is also affiliated with five pharmaceutical > companies). > Then she turned us into child protective services for a shared > psychotic disorder. We had our trial this week with disappointing > results. I fired the first attorney and hired another who was not > allowed to represent me. The judge called back the lawyer I fired who > basically spoke off the top of his head and did not put any of my 150 > pages of medical documentation on the record. He did not even allow me > to take the stand. > The judge ruled that " THIS COURT does NOT believe in mold detoxing > problems and that my son and I suffer from NO symptoms. " CPS took > jurisdiction and now want my son to have a psych. evaluation. They > want us to have mandatory counseling as well even though one social > worker we saw stated that she thought the case was totally unfounded. > Today I received a notice from my worker's comp. case which stated I > must attend a mandatory settlement conference next month. Anyone see any > connections here? Isn't there a conflict of interest to try a case in > the same county where another open case is pending?uMMMMMMMMMMMM > Anyone have any rec. for a great lawyer who can stand up to CPS and > who know EI as well? How about any successful lawyers who have a > winning record for malpractice? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I would try Witzer Law firm in California.. or I hear that Dr. Lipsey has a good list of attoney's he recommends on the east coast salzberglver3 <salzberglver3@...> wrote: Update... My son and I went to see an infectious disease doctor who told us that our medical history was crap and that there is no such thing as chemical intolerance (she is also affiliated with five pharmaceutical companies). Then she turned us into child protective services for a shared psychotic disorder. We had our trial this week with disappointing results. I fired the first attorney and hired another who was not allowed to represent me. The judge called back the lawyer I fired who basically spoke off the top of his head and did not put any of my 150 pages of medical documentation on the record. He did not even allow me to take the stand. The judge ruled that " THIS COURT does NOT believe in mold detoxing problems and that my son and I suffer from NO symptoms. " CPS took jurisdiction and now want my son to have a psych. evaluation. They want us to have mandatory counseling as well even though one social worker we saw stated that she thought the case was totally unfounded. Today I received a notice from my worker's comp. case which stated I must attend a mandatory settlement conference next month. Anyone see any connections here? Isn't there a conflict of interest to try a case in the same county where another open case is pending?uMMMMMMMMMMMM Anyone have any rec. for a great lawyer who can stand up to CPS and who know EI as well? How about any successful lawyers who have a winning record for malpractice? --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510,000 Mortgage for $1,698/mo - Calculate new house payment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 That is discusting. Guidance for Clinicians on the Recognition and Management of Health Effects related to Mold Exposure and Moisture Indoors http://www.oehc.uchc.edu/clinser/MOLD%20GUIDE.pdf What state are you in? There is enough documentation that this should not happen. Update... > My son and I went to see an infectious disease doctor who told us that > our medical history was crap and that there is no such thing as > chemical intolerance (she is also affiliated with five pharmaceutical > companies). > Then she turned us into child protective services for a shared > psychotic disorder. We had our trial this week with disappointing > results. I fired the first attorney and hired another who was not > allowed to represent me. The judge called back the lawyer I fired who > basically spoke off the top of his head and did not put any of my 150 > pages of medical documentation on the record. He did not even allow me > to take the stand. > The judge ruled that " THIS COURT does NOT believe in mold detoxing > problems and that my son and I suffer from NO symptoms. " CPS took > jurisdiction and now want my son to have a psych. evaluation. They > want us to have mandatory counseling as well even though one social > worker we saw stated that she thought the case was totally unfounded. > Today I received a notice from my worker's comp. case which stated I > must attend a mandatory settlement conference next month. Anyone see any > connections here? Isn't there a conflict of interest to try a case in > the same county where another open case is pending?uMMMMMMMMMMMM > Anyone have any rec. for a great lawyer who can stand up to CPS and > who know EI as well? How about any successful lawyers who have a > winning record for malpractice? > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sponsored Link > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510,000 Mortgage for $1,698/mo - Calculate new house payment > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Re: Court Update Hi Gordon, I am not a lawyer either but it seems very clear to me on the employee packet that my PSWs sign that I am the employer, not ACCESS or the state of Illinois. There is even a page that we both sign that says exactly that. Thais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Re: Court Update Hi Gordon, I am not a lawyer either but it seems very clear to me on the employee packet that my PSWs sign that I am the employer, not ACCESS or the state of Illinois. There is even a page that we both sign that says exactly that. Thais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Dear Team IPADD,    Please make no mistake that Ellen, Pam and I are of one mind as so well stated in Ellen’s for the record post. This is about family values! Having said that, the purpose of this post is to share with you the status of the current litigation before Judge Epstein in the Chancery Division, Circuit Court of Cook County, as best I can share as I am not an attorney. Contrary to what you may have heard from SEIU or AFSCME on Monday at AAA as the vote count was in progress, the litigation is still very much alive and well. It remains on a very fast track at this juncture. Judge Epstein on Monday ruled that he wanted to see responsive pleadings from the defendants by October 23, 2009, a reply to those pleadings from me on October 30, 2009, and a status hearing on November 3, 2009. We are still actively in search of a pro bono attorney to represent us in this action. The major firms we have talked to, so far, cannot do it as they have been hired by the State on other matters that would create a conflict of interest for the firms. On Friday, it seems we will file a motion to voluntarily dismiss the temporary restraining order to stop the vote count. As you may remember, thanks to all of us working together the vote was overwhelming that this community does not want to unionize! We said NO to the unions by a 2 -1 margin! The motion is really moot at this point, and we do not want to waste the court’s time. This was just one of five points in the case the court agreed to hear. There remain four other issues or counts on the table namely: illegal election; interfere with, restrain or coerce employees; state business to be conducted in sunshine, and jurisdiction. If we are able to retain an attorney, the complaint will probably move forward as submitted. If not, we will probably amend the complaint to simply focus on the issue of jurisdiction. The jurisdiction issue is simply asking the court to decide who the employer is. Is it the consumer, our kids and us, as the Home Based Support Services Program design seems to suggest or is it the State of Illinois as the unions and the State of Illinois, Central Management Services seems to suggest by their actions rooted in the Governor’s Executive Order. Why does this matter? If you and I are the employer, the unions would have to work separately with each employer to unionize – very expensive for a union to do as well as the rules of NLRB may be in play. If the State is the employer, then ILRB as well as the Illinois Labor Relations Act runs the show with firm rules to assure a free and open election.  We need to resolve this matter once and for all. Instead of being in court, being afraid, being confronted, etc., we all should be taking care of our families.  Stay tuned! Thanks for your support. Humbly grateful to be your companion on the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel Phone: 708 246 5151 Fax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America begins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16). Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of II .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Dear Team IPADD,    Please make no mistake that Ellen, Pam and I are of one mind as so well stated in Ellen’s for the record post. This is about family values! Having said that, the purpose of this post is to share with you the status of the current litigation before Judge Epstein in the Chancery Division, Circuit Court of Cook County, as best I can share as I am not an attorney. Contrary to what you may have heard from SEIU or AFSCME on Monday at AAA as the vote count was in progress, the litigation is still very much alive and well. It remains on a very fast track at this juncture. Judge Epstein on Monday ruled that he wanted to see responsive pleadings from the defendants by October 23, 2009, a reply to those pleadings from me on October 30, 2009, and a status hearing on November 3, 2009. We are still actively in search of a pro bono attorney to represent us in this action. The major firms we have talked to, so far, cannot do it as they have been hired by the State on other matters that would create a conflict of interest for the firms. On Friday, it seems we will file a motion to voluntarily dismiss the temporary restraining order to stop the vote count. As you may remember, thanks to all of us working together the vote was overwhelming that this community does not want to unionize! We said NO to the unions by a 2 -1 margin! The motion is really moot at this point, and we do not want to waste the court’s time. This was just one of five points in the case the court agreed to hear. There remain four other issues or counts on the table namely: illegal election; interfere with, restrain or coerce employees; state business to be conducted in sunshine, and jurisdiction. If we are able to retain an attorney, the complaint will probably move forward as submitted. If not, we will probably amend the complaint to simply focus on the issue of jurisdiction. The jurisdiction issue is simply asking the court to decide who the employer is. Is it the consumer, our kids and us, as the Home Based Support Services Program design seems to suggest or is it the State of Illinois as the unions and the State of Illinois, Central Management Services seems to suggest by their actions rooted in the Governor’s Executive Order. Why does this matter? If you and I are the employer, the unions would have to work separately with each employer to unionize – very expensive for a union to do as well as the rules of NLRB may be in play. If the State is the employer, then ILRB as well as the Illinois Labor Relations Act runs the show with firm rules to assure a free and open election.  We need to resolve this matter once and for all. Instead of being in court, being afraid, being confronted, etc., we all should be taking care of our families.  Stay tuned! Thanks for your support. Humbly grateful to be your companion on the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel Phone: 708 246 5151 Fax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America begins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16). Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of II .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi Gordon, I am not a lawyer either but it seems very clear to me on the employee packet that my PSWs sign that I am the employer, not ACCESS or the state of Illinois. There is even a page that we both sign that says exactly that. Thais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi Gordon, I am not a lawyer either but it seems very clear to me on the employee packet that my PSWs sign that I am the employer, not ACCESS or the state of Illinois. There is even a page that we both sign that says exactly that. Thais Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Thank you Natasha. I was there on Monday and will sign up for next week. I am not one of Alvin's buying club and I want to encourage others who are not in it to still come. This is about your future ability to purchase raw milk. It's important that we make an effort. I will bring my older son. I don't think the baby can sit through much and although I do feel it's important to bring children, I also feel that I have to make sure they're not being too rowdy. Thanks for posting this!!! - > > > We had a wonderful session at the Rights Workshop yesterday- those that came can attest that the speakers had some valuable information and inspiration for us all. The dinner was delicious- thank you to all who donated and prepared the food. > > The rally was this morning and we were given the gift of a beautiful morning and clear skies (although oddly enough the sprinkler system went off right in the middle of our rally!) Look for future links to videos of the rally to see what you missed if you weren't there... > > The trial: it was rescheduled to start next Monday at 9:45 am. This causes us to have to reschedule things but it also gives us further opportunity to get the courtroom packed every day. We have broken the shifts into morning and afternoon and look forward to having the courtroom filled- what a time to show that we care about our food and farmers and to have fellowship with other " foodies " ...people who won't think you are weird talking about " grass-fed " and " scobys " ! We could all use more of that and this is a great opportunity for community building. > > So, whether you had already committed to this week or you are deciding to get on board, please follow this link to sign up for the new dates and times: > > http://farmfoodfreedom.wufoo.com/forms/courtroom-sign-up/ > > See you there! > > Natasha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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