Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 You know if we knew everything about our food we would not eat anything! lol I heard a documentary a couple years ago about organic fruit and vegies...they are naturally fertilized right? But the natural fertilizer can be up to 75 % nuclear waste. They are not lying, because it is a natural product. But it makes you think huh?! And you know what they do with the eggs that are past dated and returned to the producer? They sort them and send them back to the stores in a new carton! lol I like my fresh eggs...they taste better anyway! Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Yes, Elaine you are so right... Here's a list of sugar companies that DO NOT use bones to make their sugar white: Pillsbury (brown sugar) Refined Sugars, Inc. of New York Supreme Sugar Company Florida Crystals But it's not really in the sugar per se...they use the bones as a filtering system...so the raw sugar, which is not white...goes thru the bones and the brown is absorbed into the bone...leaving the sugar white... Sucanat or Turbinado sugar does not use bone... Beet sugar is not refined either...so they are good. Domino, Savannah Foods, California and Hawaiian sugar companies do use bone to filter.... I could not find anything on Imperial...??? But getting back to fish, when I lived at the beach I learned a lot about shrimping and how bad that is for the population of fish. The by-catch, which are fish drug up with the shrimp,,,is huge...and I can't remember the exact numbers, so don't quote me on this...but it was something like for every 5 pounds of shrimp caught, the by-catch of baby fish and other fish was 20 pounds. It was not good. And the fish don't always live...of course, the turtle hatches the nets are suppose to have on them to allow turtles or other mammals to escape are only used when the shrimper sees a Coast Guard or other vessel that might write him a violation...on the water, that's easy to see...otherwise, they keep them closed because a fraction of shrimp are lost in them too. So lots of turtles are lost... Farm Fed fish are full of nitrates, a known carcinogen... Beth Elaine wrote: Last night I watched a show about fish-farming and aquafarming. It'spretty bad, not only for the fish and those who eat them but for theenvironment as well. I had already known some of the problems withfish-farming but I was surprised that a dye is put into the farmedsalmon because it's not as red as wild salmon. It's like the foodindustry wants to poison us in so many ways.Just a few minutes ago there was news segment about things likeputting "refined bones" into sugar. Their point was that this sugarisn't vegetarian but what the heck are bones doing in sugar. i don'twant to eat bones in my sugar. I only want sugar.We learned ugly things during the mad cow crisis, like the fact thatthey feed cows to other cows. Why is that? Sounds really horrible.Earlier we talked about growth hormones in our food and otherundesirable things. Some people feel places like Whole Foods, thathopefully doesn't take part in any of this (do we really know? Anddespite their best efforts, could some of this food be sold to themunknowingly?) is the answer. I was just in Whole Foods. Wild salmonis $20 - $26 a pound. It's an expensive place and many people justdon't have the money. It's not an option for them. Whole Foods canonly be a solution if one only eats food they cook at home. Whatabout when you eat at restaurants and friends' homes? Your children'sschool lunch? The snack you pick up when you buy gas, etc.There's so much more to it. There's the environment and overfishing. I tell you this because I once knew none of this and there are likelymany people out there who haven't either. I feel that the only waythis will change is if we all demand the change. Each of us can bringabout change, one item, one battle at a time. None of what any of usdo is too small to be useful. It seems overwhelming but together, wecan make change. I hope you will all think about this.Thank you, thank you.Elaine Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Sounds like an amazing " small " garden, . Sounds wonderful. Elaine I live inside the city of , MS. I have managed to have a small garden. Primarily I use grass clippings for mulch and it decays to add nutrients to the soil. I also compost all vegetable scraps. I use no chemicals on my lawn or garden. I also try to purchase certified organic produce. As you, I have just about given up on eating animal products and dairy. In my little garden, this year I am raising sweet corn, crowder peas, okra, tomatoes, bell peppers, sweet banana peppers, habanero peppers, squash, watermelons, onions and red potatoes. I already have several tennis ball size tomatoes. I process most of my vegetables with a Vita-mix processor. Happy day is wished for Y'all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 You're right, Jane. It's the best we can do. Elaine Don't think about it, do the best you can, and move ahead! lolol Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Sounds like an amazing "small" garden, . Sounds wonderful Yes Elaine and thanks. I very much enjoy working in it. I always have to check it out and pull a few weeds, first thing every morning. Hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 What a great butterfly story! > > Becca plants a big pot or two of parsley just for the Eastern Swallowtail butterflies. There will be none, and then suddenly, one day there will be several caterpillars on the parsley at once, eating away. They seem to last exactly as long as it takes to eat all of the parsley, then make their coccoons. Later, when we see a beautiful butterfly, Becca will wonder if that one is " hers " . > We are not so kind to the tomato caterpillars. When we lived in Vicksburg, we had ducks that would follow us through the tomato patch waiting for us to pluck the tomato caterpillars and throw them to where they could gobble them up. > W. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Sounds like a Garden of Eden. Very nice! > > a... > I believe yard gardens to supplement your vegetables is an answer. You can plant lettuce, cabbage, onions, potatoes, carrots in the fall and winter...and of course, tomatoes, corn, squash, eggplant, okra...and much more in the spring/summer. I am growing totally organic - no pesticides or chemicals...I have noticed when a plant gets bugs on it...they eat that plant to the bone...and I consider it a sacrifice to the rest of the garden...they usually stay on one plant...I try to remember that catterpillars will be butterflies...and they are useful...they eat a lot for a short time...then they cocoon so it's only a short time that they are destructive...If I find one I pick him up and move him to another place in the yard. Anyway...fruit trees, gardens...to supplement your food supply would help. However I have 10 chickens, 3 guinea hens, and 3 peacocks...and they are insect eaters...they comb the garden for insects constantly...so I don't have many problems...If > you can attract birds to your garden they will help keep down the insects...Mockingbirds are insect eaters...if you see them that's a good sign. Beth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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