Re: Power, law and the classics

[Guest guest]

Dan and Friends:

If I get around to my other 2 posts of the day, will ask ya'll to cut me

a bit o' slack on this one -- cause I can't resist. Let's see. Can I

count the extras from yesterday that I didn't use.

Dan. May I suggest that there is some slippage here in the concept of

equating laws with government, especially when one tries to speak of

laws of nature. I don't think it makes an accurate equation to place an

equal sign between the two. Instead, government only deals with or

legislates one form of law -- there are others. For example, there are

" laws " of physics or chemistry, etc which have nothing to do with

government. Except that any individual or organized community of humans

would be foolish to totally disregard them. These are the type which we

do not invent; we observe, test and discover. Other times the discovery

is not so well planned -- we arrive by serendipity or calamity but

discover nonetheless. Perhaps among these are also some relational

" laws " as well.

I suspect that in the end we may realize that we will not be able to

create a collective (either of world wide government or small

nations/states) which stablizes the hope of humanity not only surviving

but thriving unless we discover and align ourselves with a relational

" law " which acknowledges that yin must balance yang, nonaction balance

action, and yes -- male and female as well as masculine and feminine

find some way to live in balance rather than either dominating (overtly

or covertly) the other. Hence, 50/50 makes sense to me as well.

And Phoebe. I am sorry. I would be a great disappointment to you. I

don't know either of these sources, or all the fascinating ones you

mourned that were also unknown to your students. Grew up without any

TV. Movie theatre was forbidden. (Did not attend any movies until I

moved away to a Nazarene College where I learned a lot about

persona!!!!! but still did not attend many there). Never attended a

community theatre performance (though there were sort of limited

highschool and college attempts at plays) until 'was in grad school.

Mom gave up censoring my library books about junior high time, but our

public library was somewhat limited in scope probably as well and any

religious book had to come from the Nazarene Publishing House! Once I

got out of this system, I spent the majority of my time with head buried

in science, experimental psychology texts or medical material -- with

the exception of Jung.

I feel like I am forever trying to catch up. But I can celebrate your

peak experience driving home -- have had a few inner spaces travels and

they were worth honoring. I promise to keep eyes and ears open here to

learn more of the classics from you, Carrol, Deborah, Mike, Alice, the

Mutt, ShadowCatcher and all here about the fire.

Gwen

Dan Watkins wrote:

> Dear Phoebe,

>

> At 08:51 PM 11/21/99 EST, you wrote:

> >

> >No. Not necessarily. It's the one Cicero is looking for. A

> Universal Law

> >based on Laws of nature, etc. Check out De Legibus.

> >

> >phoebe

> >

> Thanks for the reply. Got it in front of me - what passage did you

> have in

> mind? (I don't know if the ancients ever anticipated the acutal

> possibility

> of world-wide government - the world was so much bigger then.)

>

> Best regards,

>

> Dan Watkins

>

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