Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Hooray for all of us! I'm with you, Jane! What a fantastic and diverse group. I'm also very excited that Steve is so close to the New York goal line, and grateful to be along for this internet part of the journey. I'm now walking regularly, discovering new physical capabilities that I had let slip along my road to obesity. Gee, how much more fun is it to discover I can DO something again than to realize I can't do something anymore! I'm prefering the road I'm on. Am really inspired by the mom that lost 170 pounds--Go, Mom! Denver Josie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 Hi , I was not talking about anyone in particular except for myself. I am talking about " we impossibles " . There are some of us who a weaker than others, me included, and the safest possible way of invoking change is through persistent and constant minor modifications to behaviour. For example, change the way I cook to steaming, buying fresh veggies insteand if the prepared foods, drinking fruit juices instead of cola, these are the little things I talk about. I have tried the other way and I am weak. I stopped eating all animal products except for rennetless cheese. It took two years to make the changes, and I lasted about another two years, then I became weak and started to add little by little, animal products to my diet. I am a " we hopeless " and a " we impossible " . You know the Dali Lama recommends that we need to have compassion. I guess this discussion would qualify, and Steve might agree with me. Everyone is not strong, and with a sound will power. There are people who are weak, and helpless, and fear change, and hopeless, and all the other adjectives and adverbs. I call these people, including myself " we impossibles " . Basicaly the human race has to have compassion for these individuals, for the way they are, for what ever reason. Being strong is cool. Being realistic, taking things slow, making minor changes, requires the same effort, but weakness defines where we are and any point in change. Best regards - Bill > > > > http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/228-2136571.smil > > > > > > > http://www.thefatmanwalking.com/ > Keep walking Steve!!! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Hi , If you can talk about it then you are ahead of most people already. Nice talking to you about these issues about food and eating. In my humble opinion the problems with rapid weight loss, are hidden for the most part. When I was reading the literature for removing meat from my diet I was told to expect feeling sick. Unusual to say the least. This happens when the metabolism uses the stored fat from the body because the food eaten with exercise is not enough calories the body burns and has a need for extra fat. The theory about that was this, the whole process realeases toxins stored in the fat in the body along with the fat. So as the body uses the stored fat the waste is eliminated along with the toxins. I was advised to flush my bowels weekly by taking herbal preparations followed by plenty of liquids so as to flush the intestines and bowels to get rid of the harmful toxins in my body. A weekly flush is an inconvenience for active people on a rapid weight loss plan. If you reduce the weight slowly, mineral and vitamin deficiencies do become an issue. But I still had to do a system flush for the intestines and bowels. They told me a healthy body has two or three bowel movements each day. Morning and evening are a must. Otherwise the additives in the foods we eat linger in the digestive system which can cause problems over the years. So there is something to be said for a planned weight loss system that does not cause the sick feelings associated with the release of toxic things stored in the fat. The other problem with fast weight reductions is the behaviour has not had time to change. The old habits and old behaviour are still there and was not changed fast enough. The weight was gone, the person is still feeling sick from the toxins, and the old behaviour reaches for the things that got the original probem started from the beginning. I am not an expert, but I think slow persistent and consistent behaviour modification over a long term plan is a better approach. After a rapid weight loss plan, there is always a maintenance plan, the real learning about nutrition and eating takes place in these rapid plans after the weigh is lost. For some people this is a risky time because it is so easy to slip back into the old ways because new habits have not been formed for better health. But each individual is different, so I think what ever works for long term health and safe weight is an individual choice. I am single, never married, no children, live alone, and cook for one person, so my style of cooking and eating may not work for other people in this group. you have a good knowledge of these issues, if you can explain some of the things you are doing about preparing the food it could be helpful to others here. Best regards from Bill > > > > > > http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/228-2136571.smil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.thefatmanwalking.com/ > > Keep walking Steve!!! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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