Re: ES(AR)>EN Silencios libres

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Hi Owen,

I had not heard/read this expression before, but I believe your

interpretation is correct.

Good luck,

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Comenzando con la auscultación es fundamental la determinacion de los ruidos

cardiacos normalmente auscultables (1ero y 2do. Ruido), prácticamente el

origen del primer ruido cardiaco esta en relación con el cierre de las

válvulas auriculoventriculares izquierda y derecha, y el segundo ruido con

en cierre de las semilunares (aortica y pulmonar), como regla practica **la

identificación de los ruidos cardiacos será determinado con relación a los *

silencios*, *ya* que entre el 1er y 2do ruido, el silencio es pequeño y

entre el 2do ruido y el primero el silencio es mayor**, esta regla

fácilmente entendible me permitirá determinar el cierre de las

auriculoventriculares (1er ruido) y el cierre de las semilunares (2do

ruido), solo por el espacio de tiempo entre ambos. Al determinar los ruidos

cardiacos, también determino la fase del ciclo cardiaco, ya que entre el 1er

ruido y el 2do ruido, tengo la sístole ventricular, y entre el 2do y el 1ro

la diástole ventricular, de aquí es que tenemos esa diferencia en los *

silencios*: *la* fase sistólica es de menor duración en tiempo que la fase

de llenado ventricular (diástole).

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2008/4/9, Owen Beith :

>

> Hello all

>

> The patient's first and second heart sounds are normal, " R1 y R2

> normofoneticos " , then comes " silencios libres " . Does " silencios libres "

> mean that no intervening sounds are detected? Would " no abnormal sounds

> noted " be OK as a rendering? Any advice gratefully received.

>

> All the best

>

> Owen

>

> Owen Beith - Translations FR/SP/PT>EN

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[Guest guest]

Owen,

Though Wikipedia might not be as relaible as we would like, check this URL:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruido_card%C3%ADaco

At the bottom, alter describing the normal heart sounds (“Ruidos cardíacos”)

you will see a brief description of the " silencios " .

I hope it helps…

Regards,

Lanús

Delta Translations

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From: medical_translation

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Sent: miércoles, 09 de abril de 2008 11:29

To: medical_translation

Subject: ES(AR)>EN Silencios libres

Hello all

The patient's first and second heart sounds are normal, " R1 y R2

normofoneticos " , then comes " silencios libres " . Does " silencios libres "

mean that no intervening sounds are detected? Would " no abnormal sounds

noted " be OK as a rendering? Any advice gratefully received.

All the best

Owen

Owen Beith - Translations FR/SP/PT>EN

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07:10

[Guest guest]

Thanks a lot, .

" En circunstancias anormales, estos silencios [pequeno y grande] pueden

estar ocupados, hablando entonces de la existencia de un soplo cardiaco. "

I can't find any referenced source or a specific rendering into English and

as you say Wikipedia isn't always a friend but since what's being referred

to here is the absence of significant information " no heart murmurs " seems

a legitimate interpretation.

All the best

Owen

At 14:13 09/04/2008 -0300, you wrote:

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>Owen,

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>

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>Though Wikipedia might not be as relaible as we would like, check this URL:

>http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruido_card%C3%ADaco

>

>

>

>At the bottom, alter describing the normal heart sounds (“Ruidos cardíacos”)

>you will see a brief description of the " silencios " .

>

>

>

>I hope it helps…

>

>

>

>Regards,

>

> Lanús

>

>Delta Translations

>

>elanus@...

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

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>From: medical_translation

>[mailto:medical_translation ] On Behalf Of Owen Beith

>Sent: miércoles, 09 de abril de 2008 11:29

>To: medical_translation

>Subject: ES(AR)>EN Silencios libres

>

>

>

>Hello all

>

>The patient's first and second heart sounds are normal, " R1 y R2

>normofoneticos " , then comes " silencios libres " . Does " silencios libres "

>mean that no intervening sounds are detected? Would " no abnormal sounds

>noted " be OK as a rendering? Any advice gratefully received.

>

>All the best

>

>Owen

>

>Owen Beith - Translations FR/SP/PT>EN

>70 Sewardstone Road, London E2 9JG

>+44 (0) 20 8981 9879

>Alternative e-mail address: beithowenwaitrose (DOT)

><mailto:beithowen%40waitrose.com> com (but ring and tell me).

>*********************************************************************

>Read " Fighting The Banana Wars and Other Fairtrade Battles " by Harriet Lamb

>Visit http://www.fairtrad <http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/> e.org.uk/

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