Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Hi.Welcome to our group. I can only relate to you that which was told to me. It is about the same as what I have read, but what I read is always more ominous sounding, and in person my hepatologist always sounds so upbeat, and hopeful. Only problem is that the way I feel physically doesn't match up to his rosy picture. I live in a world of suck. Cirrhosis is progressive when it goes past a certain point, yes. It can even be reversable if caught in an early stage, and abstinance is achieved and mantained. There is only one gaurentee, and that is you will die if you drink. You already seem to get that. I did, you see, my best friend died in Aug 06 from alcohloic liver disease. It was not a pretty sight. I was thought to have non complicated or " well compensated " cirrhosis, but the doctor is saying that my chronic encephalopathy might be decompensation, and in the past, I would have already gotten listed and possibly a transplant. He also said that I could improve to where I might not need a transplant, but that hope is fading, as I have hepatopulmonary syndrome, and so I am being listed for a transplant. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Need info about alcoholic cirrhosis Hi everyone, I'm new to this board. I'm just after some information about alcoholic cirrhosis as I'm currently in the middle of tests for this disease and would appreciate any information you guys could give me. My symptoms have been weight loss of about 6kg ( 15 pounds ), dark strong smelling urine and pale stools. I'm only 34 and very stressed an anxious about having this. I'm expecting my 2nd child at the end of March and realize that everything I've taken for granted about being around to provide and care for my wife and children could in fact not be the case. Firstly, is cirrhosis always progressive? If I have an early stage and stop drinking (which I already have), is it possible that my liver won't get any more damage and might in fact recover to a certain extent? Can i regain the weight that I've lost? Can I life a normal life? Is it true there's no medication, just avoid alcohol as the only 'treatment'? Has anyone seen the latest research about the RSK blocking peptide and have any more information about the progress of this research, like if human clinical trials are taking place? Thanks for any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 How old are you and what were your initial symptoms? > > Hi.Welcome to our group. I can only relate to you that which was told to me. It is about the same as what I have read, but what I read is always more ominous sounding, and in person my hepatologist always sounds so upbeat, and hopeful. Only problem is that the way I feel physically doesn't match up to his rosy picture. I live in a world of suck. Cirrhosis is progressive when it goes past a certain point, yes. It can even be reversable if caught in an early stage, and abstinance is achieved and mantained. There is only one gaurentee, and that is you will die if you drink. You already seem to get that. I did, you see, my best friend died in Aug 06 from alcohloic liver disease. It was not a pretty sight. I was thought to have non complicated or " well compensated " cirrhosis, but the doctor is saying that my chronic encephalopathy might be decompensation, and in the past, I would have already gotten listed and possibly a transplant. He also said that I could improve to where I might not need a transplant, but that hope is fading, as I have hepatopulmonary syndrome, and so I am being listed for a transplant. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > Need info about alcoholic cirrhosis > > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this board. I'm just after some information > about alcoholic cirrhosis as I'm currently in the middle of tests for > this disease and would appreciate any information you guys could give > me. My symptoms have been weight loss of about 6kg ( 15 pounds ), > dark strong smelling urine and pale stools. I'm only 34 and very > stressed an anxious about having this. I'm expecting my 2nd child at > the end of March and realize that everything I've taken for granted > about being around to provide and care for my wife and children could > in fact not be the case. > > Firstly, is cirrhosis always progressive? If I have an early stage > and stop drinking (which I already have), is it possible that my liver > won't get any more damage and might in fact recover to a certain extent? > > Can i regain the weight that I've lost? > > Can I life a normal life? > > Is it true there's no medication, just avoid alcohol as the only > 'treatment'? > > Has anyone seen the latest research about the RSK blocking peptide and > have any more information about the progress of this research, like if > human clinical trials are taking place? > > Thanks for any help! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 I am 43 now. I was just your average guy. A horticulturist working for the City of Denver parks department. I always looked forward to quitting time. Cold beer at home. I was not the kind of alcoholic at the AA meetings who was always getting dui's or the shakes, no that wasn't me. But the day after my last gig as a drummer in a country rock band, I had a cramp in my right side, near the rib cage, encompassing the whole abdomen. I quit drinking two days later. It got worse as the weeks went my. I went to see my PCP, and she scheduled a complete physical. She found nothing. She sent me for an ultrasound to see if we could see anything. the results were negative. I weighed 346 at the time. My best friend was hospitalized for the last time then, Jul. 06. By August, I had lost 30 lbs. She died August 3rd, I drank like a fish again for 40 days, and quit abruptly on Sept 11, 2006. I had withdrawals, and DT's (delerium tremmens)and had to be hospitalized and detoxed inpatient. I continued to lose weight at 1 pound every two days. My doc got very concerned, and sent me to a surgeon who took my gallbladder out. When they went in to take out my galbladder, they saw a macronodular cirrhotic liver. They took a biopsy which confirmed cirrhosis. Pain was the first symptom. I still have severe pain in my liver, and take narcotic analgesic drugs to function. I have a blog here at http://billybobswildride.blogspot.com/ Come by for a visit. I also wrote the story of Ardis here http://robertwalkingeagle.googlepages.com/home Good luck to you. I'm glad you joined our group. You at least have a fighting chance if you have quit drinking. Thats the bottom line. A lot of people cannot do it. You and I are fortunate to be able to. I'm sure you want to take care of your wife and those babies. Hey, don't forget to post photos when you get around to it. We have a photo album in which we have quite a collection. We even have my ct scan, Penny's ct scan, and Debra's liver. Need info about alcoholic cirrhosis > > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this board. I'm just after some information > about alcoholic cirrhosis as I'm currently in the middle of tests for > this disease and would appreciate any information you guys could give > me. My symptoms have been weight loss of about 6kg ( 15 pounds ), > dark strong smelling urine and pale stools. I'm only 34 and very > stressed an anxious about having this. I'm expecting my 2nd child at > the end of March and realize that everything I've taken for granted > about being around to provide and care for my wife and children could > in fact not be the case. > > Firstly, is cirrhosis always progressive? If I have an early stage > and stop drinking (which I already have), is it possible that my liver > won't get any more damage and might in fact recover to a certain extent? > > Can i regain the weight that I've lost? > > Can I life a normal life? > > Is it true there's no medication, just avoid alcohol as the only > 'treatment'? > > Has anyone seen the latest research about the RSK blocking peptide and > have any more information about the progress of this research, like if > human clinical trials are taking place? > > Thanks for any help! > <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 I forgot to list my symptoms. Here they are- http://robertwalkingeagle.googlepages.com/fall06notes Need info about alcoholic cirrhosis > > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this board. I'm just after some information > about alcoholic cirrhosis as I'm currently in the middle of tests for > this disease and would appreciate any information you guys could give > me. My symptoms have been weight loss of about 6kg ( 15 pounds ), > dark strong smelling urine and pale stools. I'm only 34 and very > stressed an anxious about having this. I'm expecting my 2nd child at > the end of March and realize that everything I've taken for granted > about being around to provide and care for my wife and children could > in fact not be the case. > > Firstly, is cirrhosis always progressive? If I have an early stage > and stop drinking (which I already have), is it possible that my liver > won't get any more damage and might in fact recover to a certain extent? > > Can i regain the weight that I've lost? > > Can I life a normal life? > > Is it true there's no medication, just avoid alcohol as the only > 'treatment'? > > Has anyone seen the latest research about the RSK blocking peptide and > have any more information about the progress of this research, like if > human clinical trials are taking place? > > Thanks for any help! > <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq{margin:4;} --> ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Did you manage to put your weight back on? Also during your initial physical, did your physician take blood tests for liver function? > > > > > > Hi.Welcome to our group. I can only relate to you that which was > > told to me. It is about the same as what I have read, but what I read > > is always more ominous sounding, and in person my hepatologist always > > sounds so upbeat, and hopeful. Only problem is that the way I feel > > physically doesn't match up to his rosy picture. I live in a world of > > suck. Cirrhosis is progressive when it goes past a certain point, yes. > > It can even be reversable if caught in an early stage, and abstinance > > is achieved and mantained. There is only one gaurentee, and that is > > you will die if you drink. You already seem to get that. I did, you > > see, my best friend died in Aug 06 from alcohloic liver disease. It > > was not a pretty sight. I was thought to have non complicated or " well > > compensated " cirrhosis, but the doctor is saying that my chronic > > encephalopathy might be decompensation, and in the past, I would have > > already gotten listed and possibly a transplant. He also said that I > > could improve to where I might not need a transplant, but that hope is > > fading, as I have hepatopulmonary syndrome, and so I am being listed > > for a transplant. > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > > > Need info about alcoholic cirrhosis > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this board. I'm just after some information > > > about alcoholic cirrhosis as I'm currently in the middle of tests for > > > this disease and would appreciate any information you guys could give > > > me. My symptoms have been weight loss of about 6kg ( 15 pounds ), > > > dark strong smelling urine and pale stools. I'm only 34 and very > > > stressed an anxious about having this. I'm expecting my 2nd child at > > > the end of March and realize that everything I've taken for granted > > > about being around to provide and care for my wife and children could > > > in fact not be the case. > > > > > > Firstly, is cirrhosis always progressive? If I have an early stage > > > and stop drinking (which I already have), is it possible that my liver > > > won't get any more damage and might in fact recover to a certain > > extent? > > > > > > Can i regain the weight that I've lost? > > > > > > Can I life a normal life? > > > > > > Is it true there's no medication, just avoid alcohol as the only > > > 'treatment'? > > > > > > Has anyone seen the latest research about the RSK blocking peptide and > > > have any more information about the progress of this research, like if > > > human clinical trials are taking place? > > > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mkp{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > margin-bottom:10px;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > padding:0 0;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > font-family:Arial;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family:Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family:Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-vital a{ > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration:none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o{font-size:0;} > .MsoNormal{ > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120%;} > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq{margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 > > > > > > Hi.Welcome to our group. I can only relate to you that which was > > told to me. It is about the same as what I have read, but what I read > > is always more ominous sounding, and in person my hepatologist always > > sounds so upbeat, and hopeful. Only problem is that the way I feel > > physically doesn't match up to his rosy picture. I live in a world of > > suck. Cirrhosis is progressive when it goes past a certain point, yes. > > It can even be reversable if caught in an early stage, and abstinance > > is achieved and mantained. There is only one gaurentee, and that is > > you will die if you drink. You already seem to get that. I did, you > > see, my best friend died in Aug 06 from alcohloic liver disease. It > > was not a pretty sight. I was thought to have non complicated or " well > > compensated " cirrhosis, but the doctor is saying that my chronic > > encephalopathy might be decompensation, and in the past, I would have > > already gotten listed and possibly a transplant. He also said that I > > could improve to where I might not need a transplant, but that hope is > > fading, as I have hepatopulmonary syndrome, and so I am being listed > > for a transplant. > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > > > Need info about alcoholic cirrhosis > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this board. I'm just after some information > > > about alcoholic cirrhosis as I'm currently in the middle of tests for > > > this disease and would appreciate any information you guys could give > > > me. My symptoms have been weight loss of about 6kg ( 15 pounds ), > > > dark strong smelling urine and pale stools. I'm only 34 and very > > > stressed an anxious about having this. I'm expecting my 2nd child at > > > the end of March and realize that everything I've taken for granted > > > about being around to provide and care for my wife and children could > > > in fact not be the case. > > > > > > Firstly, is cirrhosis always progressive? If I have an early stage > > > and stop drinking (which I already have), is it possible that my liver > > > won't get any more damage and might in fact recover to a certain > > extent? > > > > > > Can i regain the weight that I've lost? > > > > > > Can I life a normal life? > > > > > > Is it true there's no medication, just avoid alcohol as the only > > > 'treatment'? > > > > > > Has anyone seen the latest research about the RSK blocking peptide and > > > have any more information about the progress of this research, like if > > > human clinical trials are taking place? > > > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mkp{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line- height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > margin-bottom:10px;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > padding:0 0;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > font-family:Arial;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family:Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family:Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text- align:right;} > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white-space:nowrap;} > .bld{font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom:10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin:2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight:bold;} > #ygrp-vital a{ > text-decoration:none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font- size:100%;line-height:122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration:none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration:underline;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o{font-size:0;} > .MsoNormal{ > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120%;} > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq{margin:4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 Oh, yeah. I told her that I had been dishonest, and I had always drank a 12 pack a day,and kept it from her. So she did a complete liver panel. BUT,... my wife named my liver 'bob' and we think he is a maker of fools. Almost every doctor except the hepatologist has been fooled by my liver. My hepatologist knows better, he said, " I am not taking any chances, if it is possible to develop a complication, you'll develop it. He knows that my liver made fools out of 4 doctors. My AST , ALT, CREAT, BILI total, were ALL only slightly bumped. NOT in the 1000's like my PC doctor thought they would be. She said " I am positive you don't have liver disease. Your labs are too close to normal. " I always tell people that a needle biopsy is the ONLY way to be sure. That state ment matches not only what I have read on the subject ,but also what my hepatologist has told me, and my GI doc too. There can be sampling error with a biopsy, but it is far more reliable than any other test. Need info about alcoholic cirrhosis > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, I'm new to this board. I'm just after some information > > > about alcoholic cirrhosis as I'm currently in the middle of tests for > > > this disease and would appreciate any information you guys could give > > > me. My symptoms have been weight loss of about 6kg ( 15 pounds ), > > > dark strong smelling urine and pale stools. I'm only 34 and very > > > stressed an anxious about having this. I'm expecting my 2nd child at > > > the end of March and realize that everything I've taken for granted > > > about being around to provide and care for my wife and children could > > > in fact not be the case. > > > > > > Firstly, is cirrhosis always progressive? If I have an early stage > > > and stop drinking (which I already have), is it possible that my liver > > > won't get any more damage and might in fact recover to a certain > > extent? > > > > > > Can i regain the weight that I've lost? > > > > > > Can I life a normal life? > > > > > > Is it true there's no medication, just avoid alcohol as the only > > > 'treatment'? > > > > > > Has anyone seen the latest research about the RSK blocking peptide and > > > have any more information about the progress of this research, like if > > > human clinical trials are taking place? > > > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mkp{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font- family:Arial; margin:14px 0px;padding: 0px 14px;} > #ygrp-mkp hr{ > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} > #ygrp-mkp #hd{ > color:#628c2a; font-size: 85%;font- weight:bold; line-height: 122%;margin: 10px 0px;} > #ygrp-mkp #ads{ > margin-bottom: 10px;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad{ > padding:0 0;} > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ > color:#0000ff; text-decoration: none;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ > font-family: Arial;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ > margin:10px 0px;font-weight: bold;font- size:78%; line-height: 122%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ > margin-bottom: 10px;padding: 0 0;} > --> > > > > <!-- > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit; font:100% ;} > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height: 1.22em;} > #ygrp-text{ > font-family: Georgia; > } > #ygrp-text p{ > margin:0 0 1em 0;} > #ygrp-tpmsgs{ > font-family: Arial; > clear:both;} > #ygrp-vitnav{ > padding-top: 10px;font- family:Verdana; font-size: 77%;margin: 0;} > #ygrp-vitnav a{ > padding:0 1px;} > #ygrp-actbar{ > clear:both;margin: 25px 0;white-space: nowrap;color: #666;text- align:right; } > #ygrp-actbar .left{ > float:left;white- space:nowrap; } > .bld{font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-grft{ > font-family: Verdana;font- size:77%; padding:15px 0;} > #ygrp-ft{ > font-family: verdana;font- size:77%; border-top: 1px solid #666; > padding:5px 0; > } > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ > padding-bottom: 10px;} > > #ygrp-vital{ > background-color: #e0ecee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} > #ygrp-vital #vithd{ > font-size:77% ;font-family: Verdana;font- weight:bold; color:#333; text-transform: uppercase; } > #ygrp-vital ul{ > padding:0;margin: 2px 0;} > #ygrp-vital ul li{ > list-style-type: none;clear: both;border: 1px solid #e0ecee; > } > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ > font-weight: bold;color: #ff7900;float: right;width: 2em;text- align:right; padding-right: .5em;} > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ > font-weight: bold;} > #ygrp-vital a{ > text-decoration: none;} > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ > color:#999;font- size:77%; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ > padding:6px 13px;background- color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom: 20px;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0; } > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ > list-style-type: square;padding: 6px 0;font-size: 77%;} > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ > text-decoration: none;font- size:130% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ > background-color: #eee;margin- bottom:20px; padding:0 8px;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ > padding:8px 0;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ > font-family: Arial;font- weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size: 100%;line- height:122% ;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ > text-decoration: none;} > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ > text-decoration: underline; } > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ > margin:0;} > o{font-size: 0;} > .MsoNormal{ > margin:0 0 0 0;} > #ygrp-text tt{ > font-size:120% ;} > blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 4px;} > .replbq{margin: 4;} > --> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Never miss a thing. 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