Re: Soy

[Guest guest]

Val and group,

How much soy would be considered a "moderate" amount? I have a lap band and lost 100 or so pounds but have been gaining as my thyroid sees fit in the last few years. I'm back up to 265 again!! The only time I was able to shed pounds, and prettily steadily at that is when I went on the medifast diet. Because you eat every 2 to 3 hrs it seemed to give my metabolism a kick in the butt! I lost 30 pounds in 2 months and then went off the diet because I realized most everything they have in their food choices are made from soy protein, I felt like my hashi's was out of control and didn't know it it was a coinky dink or from the steady diet of soy protein. I've check with all the other food product based diets (jenny craig, etc) and they are all soy based. So, do I grow as fat as a barn, which I certainly will or suffer the soy for a few months and take off enough poundage so I can at least breathe and walk comfortably again?

Then throw into the mix that I am menopausal and just went on hormone replacement therapy which also messes with the meds I take for hashi's. I'm taking the synthroid and T3 in the am on an empty stomach and the estrogen & progesterone at bedtime, at least 5 hrs since the last soy meal.

So, back to the original Q. what would be considered to be a moderate amount of soy intake per day? And is anyone else going through the same scenario I am?

~Janice in BaltimoreDelicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

[Guest guest]

When digging into the soy studies (or any study that uses extemely

high levels of the product being studied), the one thing to think

about is:

Would you ever think it would be a good idea to eat soy, only soy,

for every meal, every day, for months on end? No other food - just

soy straight.

Wouldn't you think that bad things might happen to your body if you

ate only 100% peanuts and NOTHING else?

How about eating nothing but cheese as 100% of your dietary intake,

and nothing else? Would that be bad for us?

Most people would say, " Of course! "

The soy infant formula studies are EXACTLY that. These humans are

consuming only soy - 100% soy milk.

This is NOT the kind of food that infants were ever designed to eat,

much less should it be their SOLE nutrient source. (But some infants

really have no choice...).

As an adult, I would totally avoid the habit of eating 100% of ONE

particular food, every single day, for every single meal, no matter

what the food happened to be.

You can go overboard on any food or any supplement. Even when a food

is found to be a " superfood " , more doesn't always mean better.

Moderation is the key.

Val

>

> re the discussion on soy.. i looked into it a couple of years ago,

> after hearing about it the first time.

>

> one thing was for sure when i did all the internet searches,, last

> year, the American Heart Association AHA did NOt have soy listed

> anywhere in its food pyramid or anywhere else on its website..

> a glaring ommission which sends a message imo..

>

> i have read the issues related to soy/infant formula causing early

> puberty in infants and also reports @ FDA scientists fears of soy..

> --but only read those on " health " sites,, and not seen negative

> reports @ soy on government or official medical sites..

>

>

> -Carol

[Guest guest]

Wouldn't soy (tofu or any other soy based product) be OK if taken in moderation. I used to like doing tofu stir fries but lately have not been doing so. Just wondered. Isn't it a bit like just about anything we consume, in moderation it is OK. Over-indulgence of anything can't be good.jbaer608@... wrote: Val and group, How much soy would be considered a "moderate" amount? I

have a lap band and lost 100 or so pounds but have been gaining as my thyroid sees fit in the last few years. I'm back up to 265 again!! The only time I was able to shed pounds, and prettily steadily at that is when I went on the medifast diet. Because you eat every 2 to 3 hrs it seemed to give my metabolism a kick in the butt! I lost 30 pounds in 2 months and then went off the diet because I realized most everything they have in their food choices are made from soy protein, I felt like my hashi's was out of control and didn't know it it was a coinky dink or from the steady diet of soy protein. I've check with all the other food product based diets (jenny craig, etc) and they are all soy based. So, do I grow as fat as a barn, which I certainly will or suffer the soy for a few months and take off enough poundage so I can at least breathe and walk comfortably again?

Then throw into the mix that I am menopausal and just went on hormone replacement therapy which also messes with the meds I take for hashi's. I'm taking the synthroid and T3 in the am on an empty stomach and the estrogen & progesterone at bedtime, at least 5 hrs since the last soy meal. So, back to the original Q. what would be considered to be a moderate amount of soy intake per day? And is anyone else going through the same scenario I am? ~Janice in BaltimoreDelicious ideas to

please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

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[Guest guest]

I just wanted to add my 2 cents on the soy/vegetarian subject. I

find it VERY interesting that whenever I meet someone who has

Hashimoto's or is hyperthyroid, 9 out of 10 times they are/were

vegetarian! I consider myself a recovering vegetarian, too.

I don't think my Hashimoto's was caused by eating soy, as I hardly

ever ate soy, but more from a lack of protein. Dr. Shames says that

hyperthyroid patients need more protein. I needed more than the

average person and I was getting hardly any (I don't eat beans

either).

As for the soy, I stay away from it anyway, as it is goitrogenic. If

I am going to eat a goitrogenic food, I'd rather have broccoli or

strawberries.

Of course, there is no real evidence, just my personal observations.

Miaja**