RE: Supplements for Hepatitis C

[Guest guest]

> I'm thinking of recommending Jordan Rubin's " Patient Heal

> Thyself " , but our store is currently out of copies. Does anyone on

> the list know if there is any mention of viral diseases like Hep. C

> in the book, or if there is a protocol for similar diseases?

>

Here is what Jordan's book recommends:

THERAPEUTIC FOODS

Cultured goat's milk dairy products

Grass-fed red meat

Omega-3 eggs

Extra virgin coconut oil

Ocean-caught fish

Cod liver oil

Vegetable juice

Fremented vegetables

Stocks

SUPPLEMENTS

Primal Defense

Omega-Zyme

RM-10

FYI

Perfect Food

Springs of Life

Super Seed

Goatein

ADDITIONAL THERAPIES

Avoiding contact with chlorinated water

[Guest guest]

These are recommendations from the coconut oil list from someone who reduced

their Hep C viral load to where the doctor advised no treatment, retesting 6

months later. Eliminate alcohol, hydrogenated oils, use coconut oil. Eat

only grassfed, antibiotic, hormone free meat. 100 mg. alpha lipoic acid 2X

day,olive leaf 2 caps 2X day. 2 caps raw liver day. Liver flush, 2 days warm

water, lemon, and tomato juice as you like , no cooked food.2nd night drink

3 oz. olive oil,2oz.castor oil. 3 oz.whipped cream, Should get putrid stool

and stones from that. Drink tomato juice, eat light next day. Castor oil

compresses to liver area 2 X day. After low viral load test she went to

alpha lipoic acid 1 X day,olive leaf 2 caps 1X day, Continued raw liver 2

caps 2X day. Castor oil compresses 3X week.

Wanita

> There are so many knowledgable people on this list that it was

> the first place I thought to look for help. A man came into the

> HFS where I work yesterday because he has Hep. C, and heard

> that people had healed it with nuritional supplements. While lots

> of ideas came to mind, I told him that with such a serious illness

> (and me not having any medical training), I would need to

> research before I gave any recommendations for a healing

> protocol.

>

> TIA,

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , " " <toyotaokiec@y...>

wrote:

> Here is what Jordan's book recommends:

Thanks, ! I'll definitely recommend the book when he comes in the

store next time. (I used the protocol for CFS very successfully, and am a big

fan of GOF products).

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much Wanita! I have a few questions about some of the

recommendations you listed...

>2 caps raw liver day.

Is this a certain brand? We have raw liver capsules at our store, but I wonder

if there are more effective brands out there? Or if just eating raw grassfed

liver would be better? (Not that I'm sure that would go over well with the

average consumer!)

Liver flush, 2 days warm

> water, lemon, and tomato juice as you like ,

Are these mixed into one drink, or drank separately?

< Drink tomato juice, eat light next day.

Freshly juiced? I'm thinking V8 is probably not what you mean...

Castor oil

> compresses to liver area 2 X day.

How do you make a castor oil compress? How long do you leave it on?

Thanks again for the info, and sorry for all the questions!

[Guest guest]

,

Unfortunately, there's no other details other than what I posted which was

the instructions she gave. The list it came from moderates every post and

removes e mail addresses otherwise I'd refer you to the poster for your

questions. With that best I can interpret is grassfed liver should be fine.

If squeamish raw liver capsules at your store should do. Somewhere was

mentioned there are Argentinian beef liver capsules on the market. Argentina

has an awesome reputation in beef quality. Liver flush juice, your guess as

good as mine. Tomato juice fresh would be best. This time of year tomatoes

are terrible here. An organic bottled would do it seems. Castor oil compress

http://www.holisticmed.com/detox/dtx-liver.txt

ii. Castor oil compress

-------------------

A castor oil compress is usually performed every other

day during the Liver Flush regimen. It is helpful in

encouraging the liver to dump excess fats.

Soak a piece of wool or flannel (or a baby's cotton

diaper) in castor oil. Ring out the cloth so that it

doesn't drip. Place over the liver area (on the right

side, just under the ribcage). place a hot water bottle

(purchase from a drug store), not an electric heating

pad over the cloth. Then place a towel over the hot

water bottle. Leave on for 1.5 hours, replacing the water

when necessary so that the area is kept hot (but not too hot

to stand). After removing the compress, spend 5 to 10

minutes rubbing small amounts of virgin olive oil into the

liver area.

Here's Edgar Cayce's instructions too. One I'm more familiar with for castor

oil compresses. Somewhere between the two times maybe.

http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook/health_cleansing_skin.html

Castor Oil Compresses This is an old Edgar Cayce remedy. The compresses are

particularly useful when applied to areas of pain where tumors might be

breaking down. Soak a washcloth or similar cloth in castor oil which has

been slightly warmed in a pan. Be careful not to overheat the oil. Apply the

cloth to tumors, areas of pain, and areas of in ammation. Keep the compress

in place for 20-30 minutes. The castor oil poultices are not harmful and can

be used as often as relief is needed.

Let us know how he does.

Wanita

> Thanks so much Wanita! I have a few questions about some of the

> recommendations you listed...

> >2 caps raw liver day.

> Is this a certain brand? We have raw liver capsules at our store, but I

wonder

> if there are more effective brands out there? Or if just eating raw

grassfed

> liver would be better? (Not that I'm sure that would go over well with

the

> average consumer!)

>

> Liver flush, 2 days warm

> > water, lemon, and tomato juice as you like ,

>

> Are these mixed into one drink, or drank separately?

>

> < Drink tomato juice, eat light next day.

>

> Freshly juiced? I'm thinking V8 is probably not what you mean...

>

> Castor oil

> > compresses to liver area 2 X day.

>

> How do you make a castor oil compress? How long do you leave it on?

>

> Thanks again for the info, and sorry for all the questions!

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 04:30 PM 1/7/2004, you wrote:

>. With that best I can interpret is grassfed liver should be fine.

>If squeamish raw liver capsules at your store should do. Somewhere was

>mentioned there are Argentinian beef liver capsules on the market.

Another possibility ... liver jerky? I marinated some and

made jerky out of it. It wasn't what I'd call " delectible " but

it was edible, and a darn sight cheaper than dessicated liver

in pill form. I suspect with the right spices it might even

be tasty, like liverwurst.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

In my area (Puget Sound Area) there is actually a Naturopath that

specializes in healing Hep C. But it is with high doses of minerals and

vitamins via IV. Perhaps he could interview the Natropaths in his area and

see what they have to say. Hep C is pretty serious, I'd be careful giving

anything more than some advice on where he can look for treatment. I

wouldn't give him a healing protocol. Besides...IMO...most of those

supplements and herbs in pills aren't too effective for major stuff. I

found making my own herbal tinctures much more powerful.

K

Supplements for Hepatitis C

There are so many knowledgable people on this list that it was

the first place I thought to look for help. A man came into the

HFS where I work yesterday because he has Hep. C, and heard

that people had healed it with nuritional supplements. While lots

of ideas came to mind, I told him that with such a serious illness

(and me not having any medical training), I would need to

research before I gave any recommendations for a healing

protocol. The two things I DID send him away with in the

meantime, were kombucha (for the glucaronic acid to aid his

liver in its job of detox), and coconut oil (anti-viral fats that are

easy to digest and shouldn't tax the liver... Dr. told him to avoid

some fats because they would be hard on liver...),

So I'm thinking any healing program would have to be 3 pronged:

1. eat healthier diet ala NT 2. Take supplements to support liver

3. Take supplements that kill, or aid the body in killing, viruses.

I'm thinking of recommending Jordan Rubin's " Patient Heal

Thyself " , but our store is currently out of copies. Does anyone on

the list know if there is any mention of viral diseases like Hep. C

in the book, or if there is a protocol for similar diseases?

Another idea is The Milk Cure. If it can cure TB, perhaps it would

be good for Hep. C?

Any suggestions would be wonderful...

TIA,

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:53:53 -0000

" kristenchavez " <kristenchavez@...> wrote:

" A man came into the

>HFS where I work yesterday because he has Hep. C, and heard

>that people had healed it with nuritional supplements. "

>

>So I'm thinking any healing program would have to be 3 pronged:

>1. eat healthier diet ala NT 2. Take supplements to support liver

>3. Take supplements that kill, or aid the body in killing, viruses.

If it were me here is what I would do.

1. I would start with Dr. Schulze's 5 day cleanse and detox. It involves

a combination of fasting and raw foods and utilizes various herbs and

his own liver flush. You can find his protocol here:

http://www.curezone.com/schulze/default.asp

One thing I would do is replace a portion of the olive oil in the liver

flush with coconut oil, perhaps half and half. Coconut oil is excellent

for reducing viral loads in the body:

http://www.coconut-info.com/aids.htm

I have used his protocol quite a bit over the years and his herbal

products, IMO, are excellent. But he should ignore Dr. Schulze's dietary

advice.

2. I would then do the Milk Cure which can be found here:

http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html

There is a little more to it than what the article states but it is a

good place to begin.

3. After that he should adopt any good NT compatible diet and be rather

strict about it. High quality grass fed meats, lots of liver, high

quality cultured milks, coconut oil, etc. I don't have any personal

experience with Rubin's program but I understand it is pretty good.

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[Guest guest]

> If it were me here is what I would do.

>

> 1. I would start with Dr. Schulze's 5 day cleanse and detox. It involves

> a combination of fasting and raw foods and utilizes various herbs and

> his own liver flush. You can find his protocol here:

> http://www.curezone.com/schulze/default.asp

om/milkcure.html

------Thanks, ! I will pass along the info. The man I was talking about

has come back into the store, and is still exploring his options concerning the

info I have given him (thanks everybody who contributed!). I told him to drink

kombucha the first time he came in, and he told me that he loves it, and feels a

significant increase in his energy from drinking it. He's going to get some

coconut oil next. I think he's new to the " alternative " ways of healing and

eating, so he's working his way in gradually. He told me he has a little girl,

and

has to make sure he stays alive to see her grow up... (sometimes working at a

HFS is gut wrenching...)