Re: PAIN !!!!

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> >

> > Damn,

> > You made me feel bad for posting. NO i did not respond to

the

> > original post, So Sorry maybe I should have.

> > Yes I am Frustrated, and I'm not taken it out on others.

> > I'll just ask the Fablous VA where I HAVE to go because I

have

> no

> > Insurance....I am SURE they'll be of great help as thay have

> always

> > been. NOT.

> > It's all fine and well. Thanks so much for the link you

sent.

> > I have learned one thing from support groups. You MUST have

a

> > REALLY BAD Story to tell. At Any Rate, it's neither here no

there.

> > Thanks,

> > Dave

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Yeah. It sucks big time. I don't know what to think. My pain doc doesnt think I

have a broken rib. My PC does. The ER doc says she can only offer me ibuprofen.

I suppose budwieser wouldnt hurt in small amounts either, but both would be

equally stupid. This is a DOCTOR. I am baffled. I dont think I want transplant

after all. I will have to deal with doctors. I am going beyond frustration with

them, and it's brewing into something far more sinister.This woman doctor today

was so rude and mean. I had Sharon on the phone, and she wouldnt talk to me with

Sharon on the speaker phone. But when Sharon called her on her own line , she

took a different tone altogether. This was the worst ER visit I've ever had. Ill

NEV ER go back. I swear Ill go to the liquor store before I ever step foot into

the ER again.

Re: PAIN !!!!

> >

> > Hello,

> > I don't know if anyone has this or has experienced this but....

> > About a year ago or so I started to have Severe Pain ONLY in the

A M

> > when I woke up. Then it would go away in about 15-30 minutes

later. I

> > spoke to my Doctor, and she said HUM. I have ask her this

SEVERAL

> times

> > STILL same answer HUM. Well now it's getting to the point where

It

> goes

> > away and THEN returns.

> > I was DX in December 2005 with Hep C & 3rd Leaning Heavely

towars

> > 4th stage Cirrhosis.

> > Have a great day....

> > -

> >

>

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Here is a link to your patient rights for the VA in Ohio.

http://www.visn10.va.gov/patient_rights.asp

It seems though that you are already familiar with the VA info. What I would do

is complain and insist that they treat your medical condition which is your

right and they are legally obligated to do so.

I would also contact your patient advocate. They can assist you toward better

care. Explain to them how you feel and what has been happening. To not treat a

potentially fatal condition is unacceptable.

Here's the info.

Patient Advocate Office

Room C1034 (Outpatient Clinic Area)

Kim Rouser, " Outpatient " Patient

Advocate

Kim , " Inpatient " Patient Advocate

Monday through Friday 8:00 a.m. to 4:30

p.m.

Or at the very least make another appointment and go from there. Bother the crap

out of them. Remember the " Squeaky wheel gets the oil. "

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Bob,

DON'T do that! Are your ribs at least taped up?

MaC

Bob Aragon wrote:

Yeah. It sucks big time. I don't know what to think. My pain doc doesnt think I

have a broken rib. My PC does. The ER doc says she can only offer me ibuprofen.

I suppose budwieser wouldnt hurt in small amounts either, but both would be

equally stupid. This is a DOCTOR. I am baffled. I dont think I want transplant

after all. I will have to deal with doctors. I am going beyond frustration with

them, and it's brewing into something far more sinister.This woman doctor today

was so rude and mean. I had Sharon on the phone, and she wouldnt talk to me with

Sharon on the speaker phone. But when Sharon called her on her own line , she

took a different tone altogether. This was the worst ER visit I've ever had. Ill

NEV ER go back. I swear Ill go to the liquor store before I ever step foot into

the ER again.

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Disregard my last post about the taping. It seems they don't do this anymore.

" Doctors rarely use compression wraps — elastic bandages that you can wrap

around your chest — anymore to help " splint " and immobilize the area. Doctors

typically don't recommend compression wraps for broken ribs because compression

wraps can keep you from taking deep breaths, which can increase the risk of lung

infections (pneumonia). Broken ribs usually heal completely in about one to two

months. "

Self-care measures, including rest and the use of ice for pain and swelling, are

the best treatments for a broken rib. Normal pain treatment is Tylenol or NSAIDs

unless its severe then they can inject the location and do a nerve block.

So, besides the bedside manner, what they did in the ER was the correct

treatment.

All this you probably already know.

MaC

Bob Aragon wrote:

Yeah. It sucks big time. I don't know what to think. My pain doc doesnt think I

have a broken rib. My PC does. The ER doc says she can only offer me ibuprofen.

I suppose budwieser wouldnt hurt in small amounts either, but both would be

equally stupid. This is a DOCTOR. I am baffled. I dont think I want transplant

after all. I will have to deal with doctors. I am going beyond frustration with

them, and it's brewing into something far more sinister.This woman doctor today

was so rude and mean. I had Sharon on the phone, and she wouldnt talk to me with

Sharon on the speaker phone. But when Sharon called her on her own line , she

took a different tone altogether. This was the worst ER visit I've ever had. Ill

NEV ER go back. I swear Ill go to the liquor store before I ever step foot into

the ER again.

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Don't worry. I'm just venting. Sharon and I are both sickened and disheartened

by this. They did an exam, and then after asking what I could take, gave me a

dose of oxycodone. Then came back, said they saw no break on the xray, talked to

my pcp, and the two of them put their heads together and they wrote me a

prescription for Celebrex. Look that one up. Totally contraindicated. I called

hepatology, they said I may not take Celebrex.

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Re: Re: PAIN !!!!

Disregard my last post about the taping. It seems they don't do this anymore.

" Doctors rarely use compression wraps — elastic bandages that you can wrap

around your chest — anymore to help " splint " and immobilize the area. Doctors

typically don't recommend compression wraps for broken ribs because compression

wraps can keep you from taking deep breaths, which can increase the risk of lung

infections (pneumonia). Broken ribs usually heal completely in about one to two

months. "

Self-care measures, including rest and the use of ice for pain and swelling,

are the best treatments for a broken rib. Normal pain treatment is Tylenol or

NSAIDs unless its severe then they can inject the location and do a nerve block.

So, besides the bedside manner, what they did in the ER was the correct

treatment.

All this you probably already know.

MaC

Bob Aragon <robwalkingeagle@ <mailto:robwalkingeagle%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>

wrote: Yeah. It sucks big time. I don't know what to think. My pain doc doesnt

think I have a broken rib. My PC does. The ER doc says she can only offer me

ibuprofen. I suppose budwieser wouldnt hurt in small amounts either, but both

would be equally stupid. This is a DOCTOR. I am baffled. I dont think I want

transplant after all. I will have to deal with doctors. I am going beyond

frustration with them, and it's brewing into something far more sinister.This

woman doctor today was so rude and mean. I had Sharon on the phone, and she

wouldnt talk to me with Sharon on the speaker phone. But when Sharon called her

on her own line , she took a different tone altogether. This was the worst ER

visit I've ever had. Ill NEV ER go back. I swear Ill go to the liquor store

before I ever step foot into the ER again.

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The more complete story is here on my blog

http://billybobswildride.blogspot.com/

I have to forwarn you, its pretty negative. I have been in a pretty negative

mood. The hepatologist is the one who told me that the only treatment for end

stage liver disease with a painful spleen and liver is to treat the pain. I took

his advice. I cleared it with him. I track every single pill. I keep a log, And

I turn it ober to the pain doc every month. I asked for a reduction in dose last

month to see if it would help combat the nausea. I don't know wht more I could

do to gain the trust of the medical profession, but they treated me like I was a

junkie looking for a fix. I have a broken rib. On xray. It hurts more than any

surgery I have ever had. But the emotional pain is more than I can bear.

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Re: Re: PAIN !!!!

Bob,

DON'T do that! Are your ribs at least taped up?

MaC

Bob Aragon <robwalkingeagle@ <mailto:robwalkingeagle%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>

wrote: Yeah. It sucks big time. I don't know what to think. My pain doc doesnt

think I have a broken rib. My PC does. The ER doc says she can only offer me

ibuprofen. I suppose budwieser wouldnt hurt in small amounts either, but both

would be equally stupid. This is a DOCTOR. I am baffled. I dont think I want

transplant after all. I will have to deal with doctors. I am going beyond

frustration with them, and it's brewing into something far more sinister.This

woman doctor today was so rude and mean. I had Sharon on the phone, and she

wouldnt talk to me with Sharon on the speaker phone. But when Sharon called her

on her own line , she took a different tone altogether. This was the worst ER

visit I've ever had. Ill NEV ER go back. I swear Ill go to the liquor store

before I ever step foot into the ER again.

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[Guest guest]

The only thing they could do about a broken rib is tape up your rib cage and

give you pain meds.

Is there a pain management clinic in your area?

Accupuncture can help with pain, too.

Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble with the doctors.

Colleen

> Hey, Dave. That is not how things are here. I hear you, man. I am

so frustrated these days. I have a broken rib and no one will do

anything about it. I got a script for ibuprofen(a liver no no) and

celebrex(an even bigger no no. So, I guess I just have to let heal

with no additional meds. I'm all ears, man. I thought I had answered

but if I didn't, I'm sorry.

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[Guest guest]

All my doctors, including hep C doctors, told me to take Advil or Motrin or

Aleve, and not Tylenol or aspirin. Ibuprofen is processed through the kidneys,

not the liver, I was told, and that I should definitely stay away from Tylenol.

Colleen

robwalkingeagle@... wrote:

Hey, Dave. That is not how things are here. I hear you, man. I am so

frustrated these days. I have a broken rib and no one will do anything about it.

I got a script for ibuprofen(a liver no no) and celebrex(an even bigger no no.

So, I guess I just have to let heal with no additional meds. I'm all ears, man.

I thought I had answered but if I didn't, I'm sorry.

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Re: PAIN !!!!

>

> Hello,

> I don't know if anyone has this or has experienced this but....

> About a year ago or so I started to have Severe Pain ONLY in the A M

> when I woke up. Then it would go away in about 15-30 minutes later. I

> spoke to my Doctor, and she said HUM. I have ask her this SEVERAL

times

> STILL same answer HUM. Well now it's getting to the point where It

goes

> away and THEN returns.

> I was DX in December 2005 with Hep C & 3rd Leaning Heavely towars

> 4th stage Cirrhosis.

> Have a great day....

> -

>

Group Email: livercirrhosissupport

web address:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/livercirrhosissupport/

[Guest guest]

Don't worry. I'm just venting.

Sharon and I are both sickened and disheartened by this. They did an

exam, and then after asking what I could take, gave me a dose of

oxycodone. Then came back, said they saw no break on the xray, talked

to my pcp, and the two of them put their heads together and they

wrote me a prescription for Celebrex. Look that one up. Totally

contraindicated. I called hepatology, they said I may not take

Celebrex.

>

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