Question re food intolerances and pregnancy

[Guest guest]

Hi

There have been a number of discussions on here lately

about good diet while pregnant and nursing. Some time

in the not too distant future, I would like to start a

family. I know that eating dairy foods is good for

unborn babies, and will help to maintain bone mass

during pregnancy. However, I appear to be intolerant

to dairy - raw, pasturised, cultured, uncultured

etc.... With this intolerance, what are people's

opinions on what is healthier for the baby? To eat

the dairy and cope with the intolerance for the baby's

benefit, or not to eat dairy avoiding the risk of baby

becoming intolerant.

This is assuming of course that my root problem is

dairy intolerance, not leaky gut, which I have started

to investigate after recent discussions on this list.

Thanks for your insights

Jo

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[Guest guest]

>With this intolerance, what are people's

>opinions on what is healthier for the baby? To eat

>the dairy and cope with the intolerance for the baby's

>benefit, or not to eat dairy avoiding the risk of baby

>becoming intolerant.

There are a LOT of humans in the world (and more

so in the past) who had healthy babies and didn't

eat any dairy. Intolerances can cause a LOT of

problems, esp. the IgA ones which are not well

studied. Those problems are more likely to hurt

the baby than lack of calcium.

You can get calcium from other sources ... A

balanced calcium/mag/zinc/D pill if nothing else.

Fermented bones I think would be the best source,

but I don't think anyone has come up with a good

foolproof easy way to do that yet, on this list

anyway.

For myself, I've found kefir seems to be ok, though

I have an IgA casein issue. So fermenting might be

a way around it.

>This is assuming of course that my root problem is

>dairy intolerance, not leaky gut, which I have started

>to investigate after recent discussions on this list.

Leaky gut is often CAUSED by intolerance. Dr. Fasano

identified a chemical, Zonulin, that breaks down

the gut AND the blood/brain barrier, that is produced

when folks are sensitive to gluten. It may be produced

for other allergies too, I don't think it's been well

studied yet.

Of course, once you have leaky gut you develop

more allergy/type problems, so it's hard to say

what is the root ... so far the biggest culprit

seems to be the WBR grains (wheat/barley/rye)

and that is genetically linked. But a lot of the people

with gluten intolerance also can't handle yeast and

casein, and often soy and eggs too ... but it's hard

for me to believe that an egg intolerance would

be genetic.

Since you have a lot at stake, you might want to

do something like Dr. Fine's stool test, if you can

afford it: www.finerhealth.com. He tests for the

most common IgA allergies, and has some good info

on his site.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

I would be absolutely certain you have an intolerance to all dairy before

writing it off

during pregnancy. At 7 mo. pregnancy, I crave dairy several times a day, which

wasn't

the case before. (I crave red meat too.) After the first trimester (which was

pretty

bad, but I was eating more grains then) I have good stamina and I'm told I look

'glowing' pregnant not 'exhausted' pregnant. This is especially significant

since I am

small boned with a history of back surgery. Digestion is not perfect but it is

good

enough (regular, no major problems) and in the oriental way of thinking I am

focusing

on building, not cleansing. I recognize that some foods I'm eating a lot of may

not be

the best for me in the long run. (Cancer is prevalent on both sides, so when I'm

done

reproducing I need to focus more on purity of my animal foods.) But I don't

believe

dairy would be easy to replace while pregnant, not for me anyway.

Daphne

--- In , Joanne Pollack <jopollack2001@y...>

wrote:

> Hi

> There have been a number of discussions on here lately

> about good diet while pregnant and nursing. Some time

> in the not too distant future, I would like to start a

> family. I know that eating dairy foods is good for

> unborn babies, and will help to maintain bone mass

> during pregnancy. However, I appear to be intolerant

> to dairy - raw, pasturised, cultured, uncultured

> etc.... With this intolerance, what are people's

> opinions on what is healthier for the baby? To eat

> the dairy and cope with the intolerance for the baby's

> benefit, or not to eat dairy avoiding the risk of baby

> becoming intolerant.

>

> This is assuming of course that my root problem is

> dairy intolerance, not leaky gut, which I have started

> to investigate after recent discussions on this list.

>

> Thanks for your insights

>

[Guest guest]

> You can get calcium from other sources ... A

> balanced calcium/mag/zinc/D pill if nothing else.

>

Strangely, I find the cal/mag/zinc supplement that I take gives me

the shakes. I take a zinc/copper supp and I'm fine on that, and I

have also taken a mag supp in the past with no problems (quite the

reverse in fact) so I assume it is the calcium but not sure why it

would do this to me

I try to make sure I get at least a small qty of bone broth each day,

usually twice per day - I started this when i gave up dairy products

(although not having much luck keeping off them lately, nor sugary

foods :-( Can't get back on track after Xmas)

Jo

[Guest guest]

Make sure the magnesium is NOT chelated with aspartate. When I take it I get

some of the same symptoms I had from aspartame. (Aspartate is where

aspartame gets its name.)

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

Strangely, I find the cal/mag/zinc supplement that I take gives me

the shakes. I take a zinc/copper supp and I'm fine on that, and I

have also taken a mag supp in the past with no problems (quite the

reverse in fact) so I assume it is the calcium but not sure why it

would do this to me

I try to make sure I get at least a small qty of bone broth each day,

usually twice per day - I started this when i gave up dairy products

(although not having much luck keeping off them lately, nor sugary

foods :-( Can't get back on track after Xmas)

Jo