Re: Insuin resistance/Warrior Diet

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Could someone explain exactly how this works on the WD??? I thought

skipping meals makes you more likely to gain weight? I've looked at

the website and still don't understand it. What about losing

muscle. Is it a good diet for a middle-aged female who doesn't work

out whole lot?

> When I tried the WD out of curiosity, I discovered that I could

skip

> meals, eat a potato, and eat less fat, without the low blood sugar

> symptoms returning. Over Christmas in the middle of the day, I

> grabbed about five cookies (SAD-type) that I ate all of them while

> listening to my great uncle gripe about the government. To my

> amazement, I experienced not a single low blood sugar symptom.

>

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>

>Could someone explain exactly how this works on the WD??? I thought

>skipping meals makes you more likely to gain weight? I've looked at

>the website and still don't understand it. What about losing

>muscle. Is it a good diet for a middle-aged female who doesn't work

>out whole lot?

This was discussed to the point that it torqued some people off

a few months ago. It is absolutely true that common

sports knowledge says that skipping meals makes you gain weight

and lose muscle, and I was doing a 5-meal-day plan for exactly

that reason.

However, I'm a middle aged female, and I lose fat on this diet.

Not terribly quickly, but I feel a lot better and my clothes are

a lot looser and my muscles are stronger (with or without

exercise). Mainly it solved the hypoglycemic problems I'd

dealt with for years.

As for the theory ... the short explanation is: humans until very

recently did not get food regularly, and we seem to be geared

for NOT eating constantly, whatever the gurus say. The " losing muscle "

theory came about from people being on long term low-cal diets,

which makes the body feel it is in a time of scarcity. Pigging out

every night does NOT make the body feel food is scarce, rather

the opposite. I'd guess Ori's new book gets into the biochemistry

of it, but I'm not sure anyone really understands how or why

the feast/fast thing works so well. It's a new research thing

that is just now coming to light.

-- Heidi

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Heidi Schuppenhauer wrote:

> This was discussed to the point that it torqued some people off

> a few months ago. It is absolutely true that common

> sports knowledge says that skipping meals makes you gain weight

> and lose muscle, and I was doing a 5-meal-day plan for exactly

> that reason.

>

> However, I'm a middle aged female, and I lose fat on this diet.

> Not terribly quickly, but I feel a lot better and my clothes are

> a lot looser and my muscles are stronger (with or without

> exercise). Mainly it solved the hypoglycemic problems I'd

> dealt with for years.

I've attended a workshop conducted by a personal trainer who addressed this

issue. He said that he'd had a client who ate once a day, in the evening, and

that evening meal provided calories of the whole day. He was very overweight.

So, this trainer made him change only this aspect of eating - he made him eat

the same amount of food and quality during about 5 meals a day. After that, the

man started to lose weight. Maybe this works differently for different

individuals?

Roman

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>I've attended a workshop conducted by a personal trainer who addressed this

issue. He said that he'd had a client who ate once a day, in the evening, and

that evening meal provided calories of the whole day. He was very overweight.

So, this trainer made him change only this aspect of eating - he made him eat

the same amount of food and quality during about 5 meals a day. After that, the

man started to lose weight. Maybe this works differently for different

individuals?

>

>Roman

Cliff Sheats says the same thing in his books. I'm

not sure what to make of it either -- the two

camps are rather polarized on that issue! I was

doing the " eat most of your calories in the morning "

and that worked pretty well too (it actually worked out

to be the reverse of the WD). The main reason I switched

was sleep quality -- I can't sleep with no carbs in the

evening.

I suspect that some folks would have to regulate

their food intake on the WD to lose weight, though

probably not by a lot.

It DOES seem that some

folks lose weight better on 5 meals a day. Ori basically

says that if you want to lose weight on the WD, you need

to cut down on carbs -- and most of the 5-meal-a day folks

are also recommending pretty high-carb/low fat diets.

So maybe if you eat a high-carb/low fat diet you are

better off with 5 meals a day, weight wise?

BUT ... the evidence for fasting goes beyond the

weight loss issue. The research seems to indicate

that occasional fasting regulates blood sugar

and hormones, makes people more resistant to

stress, and decidedly makes mice healthier and

longer lived (they are just now experimenting

on humans).

-- Heidi

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Roman wrote:

> >I've attended a workshop conducted by a personal trainer who addressed

> this issue. He said that he'd had a client who ate once a day, in the evening,

> and that evening meal provided calories of the whole day. He was very

> overweight. So, this trainer made him change only this aspect of eating - he

made him

> eat the same amount of food and quality during about 5 meals a day. After

> that, the man started to lose weight. Maybe this works differently for

> different individuals?

Roman,

What was he drinking during the day? Drinking soda or fruit juices (beyond a

very small amount) all day long would entirely undermine the benefits of

cyclical undereating, as would carby snacks.

Chris

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ChrisMasterjohn@... wrote:

> Roman wrote:

>

>>>I've attended a workshop conducted by a personal trainer who addressed

>>

>>this issue. He said that he'd had a client who ate once a day, in the evening,

>>and that evening meal provided calories of the whole day. He was very

>>overweight. So, this trainer made him change only this aspect of eating - he

made him

>>eat the same amount of food and quality during about 5 meals a day. After

>>that, the man started to lose weight. Maybe this works differently for

>>different individuals?

>

>

> Roman,

>

> What was he drinking during the day? Drinking soda or fruit juices (beyond a

> very small amount) all day long would entirely undermine the benefits of

> cyclical undereating, as would carby snacks.

>

> Chris

I have no idea, Chris. What I said was I all I remember hearing that trainer say

about the man. It's probably reasonable to assume that he might have been

drinking some soda throughout the day as most Americans seem to do.

Roman