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Here in Aust-land its also called the kissing disease!

Carolyn

(Adelaide, Australia)

> Gill, is Glandular Fever the same as Mononucleosis?

> I haven't heard the term

> " Glandular Fever " used in the U.S.; I know it only

> from the occasional

> mention in British novels.

> Harper

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In a message dated 1/9/04 11:58:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,

knappschiles@... writes:

> I don't have Price's work either, but there was a post near the

> beginning of this thread that posted %s and I've also seen this before

> here. In it the fat % was 50% or more. I should have added that of

> course it has to be the " good " fat not the vegie fat of the SAD diet.

> The one that comes to mind would be the Inuit where their calories came

> mostly from fat. Also the Masai.

>

I'm quite sure this is a latter interpretation of Price's work. I don't

recall Price thinking there was any relevance of macronutrient ratios to health.

According to WAPF, the healthy cultures ranged between 15-20% protein and

30-80% fat (I believe they are excluding the Bantu, who probably had more like

10-15% fat in the non-milk tribes). A person eating on the low-animal side of

WAPF's ranges would be getting 15% protein, 30% fat, and 55% carbs, which would

make fat very much higher than carbs.

Chris

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>Message: 22

> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:55:00 EST

> From: ChrisMasterjohn@...

>Subject: Re: Re: Nutrition 101 and carb- insulin resistance

>

>In a message dated 1/9/04 10:14:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>knappschiles@... writes:

>

>

>

>>On a related topic, the carb - insulin resistance issue. It was briefly

>>mentioned and I think this is key -- it isn't JUST high carbs that cause

>>the problem. It's that it's high carbs WITH low fat. Atkins talks about

>>this and Price does too. Prices people had fat % much higher than the

>>carb %

>>

>>

>

>I don't recall Price talking about carbs or fat. Can you reference the pages

>where he talks about macronutrients? I don't remember him considering them

>of any importance. I don't have NAPD, but my school library just got it, so

>I'd like to look it up if you have it handy.

>

>Chris

>

>

I don't have Price's work either, but there was a post near the

beginning of this thread that posted %s and I've also seen this before

here. In it the fat % was 50% or more. I should have added that of

course it has to be the " good " fat not the vegie fat of the SAD diet.

The one that comes to mind would be the Inuit where their calories came

mostly from fat. Also the Masai.

Right now I don't remember where I saw it, but I have seen a chart with

a breakdown of % protein, carb, fat of the different cultures. In many

if not most, the fat is higher than the carbs.

Carol K

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>Message: 22

> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:55:00 EST

> From: ChrisMasterjohn@...

>Subject: Re: Re: Nutrition 101 and carb- insulin resistance

>

>In a message dated 1/9/04 10:14:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>knappschiles@... writes:

>

>

>

>>On a related topic, the carb - insulin resistance issue. It was briefly

>>mentioned and I think this is key -- it isn't JUST high carbs that cause

>>the problem. It's that it's high carbs WITH low fat. Atkins talks about

>>this and Price does too. Prices people had fat % much higher than the

>>carb %

>>

>>

>

>I don't recall Price talking about carbs or fat. Can you reference the pages

>where he talks about macronutrients? I don't remember him considering them

>of any importance. I don't have NAPD, but my school library just got it, so

>I'd like to look it up if you have it handy.

>

>Chris

>

>

BTW Here is a link to Price's book on the net

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0203cat/020314price/020314tocshort.html

Chapter 15 seems to have the most relavant info but not the chart I have

seen somewhere.

Carol K

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>Message: 22

> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:55:00 EST

> From: ChrisMasterjohn@...

>Subject: Re: Re: Nutrition 101 and carb- insulin resistance

>

>In a message dated 1/9/04 10:14:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>knappschiles@... writes:

>

>

>

>>On a related topic, the carb - insulin resistance issue. It was briefly

>>mentioned and I think this is key -- it isn't JUST high carbs that cause

>>the problem. It's that it's high carbs WITH low fat. Atkins talks about

>>this and Price does too. Prices people had fat % much higher than the

>>carb %

>>

>>

>

>I don't recall Price talking about carbs or fat. Can you reference the pages

>where he talks about macronutrients? I don't remember him considering them

>of any importance. I don't have NAPD, but my school library just got it, so

>I'd like to look it up if you have it handy.

>

>Chris

>

>

>

I still can't find the chart I saw, but I did find something close at

the WAPF site

http://www.westonaprice.org/nutrition_guidelines/characteristics.html

#

# Total fat content of traditional diets varies from 30% to 80% but only

about 4% of calories come from polyunsaturated oils naturally occurring

in grains, pulses, nuts, fish, animal fats and vegetables. The balance

of fat calories is in the form of saturated and monounsaturated fatty

acids.

Carol K

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Chris-

I believe you're forgetting insects, which are often extremely fatty.

>(I believe they are excluding the Bantu, who probably had more like

>10-15% fat in the non-milk tribes).

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