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In a message dated 3/5/01 6:27:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, muse@...

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this came from Deb -

> In Interview with

>

> Author of " The Global Brain Awakens "

> & " Waking Up in Time "

>

> muses on the mysteries of light and humans' inner awareness

> By NANCY HAUGHT

> THE OREGONIAN

>

> If people really did go through life with light bulbs over their heads,

> 's would be on most of the time.

> Called a professional thinker and a free-lance philosopher, peddles

> ideas as a corporate consultant for a list of clients from A (American

> Express) to almost Z (Volvo). His ideas have to do with increasing

> creativity, decreasing stress, preserving the environment and, lately,

> light.

>

> " For the rest of my life, " he says from his houseboat in Sausalito, Calif.

> " I want to try and understand what light is. "

> This from a guy who earned degrees in theoretical physics, experimental

> psychology and computer science at Cambridge University, studied Eastern

> philosophy and meditation in India, and wrote an arm-load of books about how

> human beings think, cope with change and face the future. It may all come

> down, he says, to light, something we all take for granted and know very

> little about.

>

> " There's something curious about light, which may be beyond human

> understanding, " says. From a scientific standpoint, light does not

> behave as we would expect it to behave.

>

> " What physics is telling us in Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum

> physics is that light doesn't seem to be part of the material world, "

> says. " Light doesn't seem td exist in time, space or matter as other

> things do. Light, therefore, seems to occupy a very special place in the

> cosmic scheme. It is in some ways more fundamental than time, space or

> matter. "

> The thing light is most like, it turns out, is consciousness, says.

> Not Jiminy Cricket conscience, but the state of being conscious. Without a

> Disney character to enlist, defining consciousness is tough. sees it

> as " the fact that we are aware inside, that we have thoughts and feelings,

> an inner life. "

>

> He is talking about your mind as opposed to your brain. Use both of them for

> a minute here, and imagine a film projector showing images on a screen.

> " These images are like the perceptions, sensations, dreams, memories,

> thoughts and feelings that we experience, " says, " what I call the

> 'contents of consciousness.' " The projector's light, which makes seeing the

> images possible, is like consciousness itself.

>

> While science has made some headway in understanding how the human brain

> works, it has learned little about consciousness, says. " There is

> nothing in physics, chemistry, biology or any other science that can account

> for our having an interior world.

>

> " Science today is very good at explaining how the physical world operates -

> why balls bounce, how satellites orbit - but it's completely stumped when it

> comes to consciousness. It's a paradox, that every scientist knows he or she

> is a conscious being, but there is nothing in science to explain it. It's

> the most obvious thing in the world, and we can't explain it. "

>

> Or can we? is taking a shot at it. What if consciousness and light

> were more than similar? What if they were the same thing? What if they were

> God?

>

> Pause for a moment and let that sink in while adds " theologian " to

> the stack of hats he's wearing. In all the great religions of the world ½ as

> in physics - light is a recurring theme, especially in the writings of the

> mystics, he says.

> " Consciousness is often spoken of as the inner light St. refers to 'the

> true light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.' The

> Tibetan Book of the Great Liberation speaks of 'self originated Clear Light,

> eternally unbom ... shining forth within one's own mind.' ... The sufi

> Abu'l-Hosian al-Nuri experienced a light 'gleaming in the Unseen.... I gazed

> at it continually, until the time came when I had wholly become that

> light.' "

>

> Light may be more than a metaphor for God, or the ultimate reality,

> says. " An oft-quoted phrase comes to mind, 'God is light.' God is said to be

> absolute-and in physics, so is light. God lies beyond the manifest world of

> matter, shape and form, beyond both~ space and time - so does light. "

>

> So, we simply must ask, what? What difference would it make if we understood

> that our capacity for consciousness was a firsthand experience of the

> divine?

>

> It would make a couple of differences, says. First, it might bridge

> the chasm that seems to separate science from spirituality, and the rest of

> us might find, as says he has, that the pursuit of physical truth

> and that of spiritual truth do not lead in different directions.

>

> Understanding consciousness as light might also lead to a deeper recognition

> that consciousness or light or God is the ground all human beings share. " We

> are all exactly the same, " says. " Our many different histories make

> us appear different, but when we recognize that deep oneness, it brings

> about compassion the hallmark of all the great religious traditions

> - and that leads to forgiveness. "

>

> It may also lead us to look inside ourselves for answers to life 5 tough

> questions says It has been profound for me to realize that I have

> all the wisdom I need deep within me instead of looking outside myself, " he

> says. If we want to find God, thinks, we may need to look

> within our own minds.

>

>

> In Interview with

>

> Author of " The Global Brain Awakens "

> & " Waking Up in Time "

>

> muses on the mysteries of light and humans' inner awareness

> By NANCY HAUGHT

> THE OREGONIAN

>

> If people really did go through life with light bulbs over their heads,

> 's would be on most of the time.

> Called a professional thinker and a free-lance philosopher, peddles

> ideas as a corporate consultant for a list of clients from A (American

> Express) to almost Z (Volvo). His ideas have to do with increasing

> creativity, decreasing stress, preserving the environment and, lately,

> light.

>

> " For the rest of my life, " he says from his houseboat in Sausalito, Calif.

> " I want to try and understand what light is. "

> This from a guy who earned degrees in theoretical physics, experimental

> psychology and computer science at Cambridge University, studied Eastern

> philosophy and meditation in India, and wrote an arm-load of books about how

> human beings think, cope with change and face the future. It may all come

> down, he says, to light, something we all take for granted and know very

> little about.

>

> " There's something curious about light, which may be beyond human

> understanding, " says. From a scientific standpoint, light does not

> behave as we would expect it to behave.

>

> " What physics is telling us in Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum

> physics is that light doesn't seem to be part of the material world, "

> says. " Light doesn't seem td exist in time, space or matter as other

> things do. Light, therefore, seems to occupy a very special place in the

> cosmic scheme. It is in some ways more fundamental than time, space or

> matter. "

> The thing light is most like, it turns out, is consciousness, says.

> Not Jiminy Cricket conscience, but the state of being conscious. Without a

> Disney character to enlist, defining consciousness is tough. sees it

> as " the fact that we are aware inside, that we have thoughts and feelings,

> an inner life. "

>

> He is talking about your mind as opposed to your brain. Use both of them for

> a minute here, and imagine a film projector showing images on a screen.

> " These images are like the perceptions, sensations, dreams, memories,

> thoughts and feelings that we experience, " says, " what I call the

> 'contents of consciousness.' " The projector's light, which makes seeing the

> images possible, is like consciousness itself.

>

> While science has made some headway in understanding how the human brain

> works, it has learned little about consciousness, says. " There is

> nothing in physics, chemistry, biology or any other science that can account

> for our having an interior world.

>

> " Science today is very good at explaining how the physical world operates -

> why balls bounce, how satellites orbit - but it's completely stumped when it

> comes to consciousness. It's a paradox, that every scientist knows he or she

> is a conscious being, but there is nothing in science to explain it.  It's

> the most obvious thing in the world, and we can't explain it. "

>

> Or can we? is taking a shot at it. What if consciousness and light

> were more than similar? What if they were the same thing? What if they were

> God?

>

> Pause for a moment and let that sink in while adds " theologian " to

> the stack of hats he's wearing. In all the great religions of the world ½ as

> in physics - light is a recurring theme, especially in the writings of the

> mystics, he says.

> " Consciousness is often spoken of as the inner light St. refers to 'the

> true light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.' The

> Tibetan Book of the Great Liberation speaks of 'self originated Clear Light,

> eternally unbom ... shining forth within one's own mind.' ... The sufi

> Abu'l-Hosian al-Nuri experienced a light 'gleaming in the Unseen.... I gazed

> at it continually, until the time came when I had wholly become that

> light.' "

>

> Light may be more than a metaphor for God, or the ultimate reality,

> says. " An oft-quoted phrase comes to mind, 'God is light.' God is said to be

> absolute-and in physics, so is light. God lies beyond the manifest world of

> matter, shape and form, beyond both~ space and time - so does light. "

>

> So, we simply must ask, what? What difference would it make if we understood

> that our capacity for consciousness was a firsthand experience of the

> divine?

>

> It would make a couple of differences, says. First, it might bridge

> the chasm that seems to separate science from spirituality, and the rest of

> us might find, as says he has, that the pursuit of physical truth

> and that of spiritual truth do not lead in different directions.

>

> Understanding consciousness as light might also lead to a deeper recognition

> that consciousness or light or God is the ground all human beings share. " We

> are all exactly the same, " says. " Our many different histories make

> us appear different, but when we recognize that deep oneness, it brings

> about compassion  the hallmark of all the great religious traditions

> - and that leads to forgiveness. "

>

> It may also lead us to look inside ourselves for answers to life 5 tough

> questions says It has been profound for me to realize that I have

> all the wisdom I need deep within me instead of looking outside myself, " he

> says. If we want to find God, thinks, we may need to look

> within our own minds.

>

>

>

> When all things return to the One, even gold loses its value.  But when the

> One returns to all things, even the pebbles sparkle.

>

>

>

>

" Look for the sacred in the commonplace! " :)

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I loved this one!

>> " What physics is telling us in Einstein's theory of relativity and quantum

>> physics is that light doesn't seem to be part of the material world, "

>> says. " Light doesn't seem td exist in time, space or matter as other

>> things do. Light, therefore, seems to occupy a very special place in the

>> cosmic scheme. It is in some ways more fundamental than time, space or

>> matter. "

>> The thing light is most like, it turns out, is consciousness, says.

>>

What does physics have to say about darkness? If it's the absence of light,

is it most like unconsciousness?

ne

(Stumbling toward the light - Bo Lozoff)

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