Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 I recently met with a naturapath who performed some things on me that left me with some questions. Now before I continue I consider myself a very open-minded individual who obviously wouldn't have been there if I didn't have some sort of a belief in alternative medicine. Kinesiology was performed on me and for those who don't know this is another name for muscle testing. The practitioner began touching viles of liquid while at the same time lightly pressing on my outstretched left arm. When my arm budged downward the contents in the vile didn't agree with my body and when my arm stayed strong there was no adverse reaction. I watched the whole process checking for any inconsistances such as her pressing my arm harder on some viles and softer on others. I couldn't detect any such thing from her. Then it went as far as her reading substances, just the name of a substance out of a book off of a plain sheet of paper and asking my body whether it liked it or not. In return my arm acted accordingly budging when it didn't like something and staying strong on the others. She was able to tell me that I was affected by vaccinations(What a surprise!) specificly the DPT shot, she narrowed it down! She also noticed heavy metal damage, geographical stress, reaction to eggs, sugar, corn and some fats and oils. The only problem I have with this who doesn't have some of these things? It seems a little general. But in her defense I do eat alot eggs, and I do eat a high dosage of fish oils/cod liver oils. So it is possible my body has an intolerance to these two things. Now this person happens to be highly decorated and the thing I liked about her was the fact that she was an MD and changed her tune. She is highly respected in the Alternative community and gets results. Has anyone had a similar experience with anyone and was the therapy successful. I want to give this women a go but I just want a little more confirmation on whether I'm wasting my time and my money. Matt Pack Impack Total Fitness Chek 1 Chek NLC Arlington, VA _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 >Has anyone had a similar experience with anyone and was the therapy >successful. I want to give this women a go but I just want a little more >confirmation on whether I'm wasting my time and my money. I had something like that done in my 20's, which showed I didn't get along with wheat. Or cigarettes (amazing! ;-). I'd have to say it was accurate, though I'd guess it works more like a Oujii board, that is, you unconscious KNOWS what foods you don't get along with (your brain monitors your body all the time, you just don't have easy access to that information). However, the brain being as complicated as it is, it can be reacting for numerous reasons, so it's hard to say WHY, for instance, you react to eggs. The reason they work so hard to do double-blind studies is that it seems information can be sent quite easily, unknown to either party, about the substance being tested. For a TRUE double-blind test, she would have to be unaware of the substance in the vial also. Now, in my case, I'd have to say the results WERE accurate. They didn't, however, give me enough information to stick to the diet ... I got better, then went off the diet, and had problems for the next 20 years. However, the experience did convince me that my body " knows " at some level which foods it doesn't like ... and if I start getting some strange " feelings " about a food I try to figure out why, and often avoid it (even if it is supposedly " healthy " ). The " strange feeling " might also be an abnormal craving though, which gets confusing. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Well kinesiology is quackery pure and simple. That should be obvious to even the scientifically illiterate. Can the kinesiologist explain by what route information from the bottle he or she is touching is conveyed to the mark's arm? Has any kinesiologist ever got consistently better results than placebos? If twenty or more kinesiologists test the same person, do they all get the same results? I think we all know the answer. --- In , " Matt Pack " <training@m...> wrote: > I recently met with a naturapath who performed some things on me that left > me with some questions. Now before I continue I consider myself a very > open-minded individual who obviously wouldn't have been there if I didn't > have some sort of a belief in alternative medicine. Kinesiology was > performed on me and for those who don't know this is another name for muscle > testing. The practitioner began touching viles of liquid while at the same > time lightly pressing on my outstretched left arm. When my arm budged > downward the contents in the vile didn't agree with my body and when my arm > stayed strong there was no adverse reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 well, the first time that i had that done, i totally thought it was a crock. however, now i'm completely convinced that at least in my practitioner's case, it's totally on the up and up. one good example, my baby was having night colic and we couldn't figure out what i was eating that was causing it. i went and she tested and named one item not to eat - i stopped eating that and that same night, amber's colic went away. since then she's always been right too, so i dunno. it's nutty, but it sure works for her. i plan to learn it so i can do it in my practice too... At 07:42 AM 1/10/2004, you wrote: >I recently met with a naturapath who performed some things on me that left >me with some questions. Now before I continue I consider myself a very >open-minded individual who obviously wouldn't have been there if I didn't >have some sort of a belief in alternative medicine. Kinesiology was >performed on me and for those who don't know this is another name for muscle >testing. The practitioner began touching viles of liquid while at the same >time lightly pressing on my outstretched left arm. When my arm budged >downward the contents in the vile didn't agree with my body and when my arm >stayed strong there was no adverse reaction. I watched the whole process >checking for any inconsistances such as her pressing my arm harder on some >viles and softer on others. I couldn't detect any such thing from her. Then >it went as far as her reading substances, just the name of a substance out >of a book off of a plain sheet of paper and asking my body whether it liked >it or not. In return my arm acted accordingly budging when it didn't like >something and staying strong on the others. She was able to tell me that I >was affected by vaccinations(What a surprise!) specificly the DPT shot, she >narrowed it down! She also noticed heavy metal damage, geographical stress, >reaction to eggs, sugar, corn and some fats and oils. The only problem I >have with this who doesn't have some of these things? It seems a little >general. But in her defense I do eat alot eggs, and I do eat a high dosage >of fish oils/cod liver oils. So it is possible my body has an intolerance to >these two things. Now this person happens to be highly decorated and the >thing I liked about her was the fact that she was an MD and changed her >tune. She is highly respected in the Alternative community and gets results. >Has anyone had a similar experience with anyone and was the therapy >successful. I want to give this women a go but I just want a little more >confirmation on whether I'm wasting my time and my money. > >Matt Pack >Impack Total Fitness >Chek 1 >Chek NLC >Arlington, VA > >_________________________________________________________________ >Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. >http://wine.msn.com/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 - The doctor touching a bottle, obviously, is ludicrous. However, a GP once figured out very quickly what was giving my girlfriend a horrific allergic reaction using a much more plausible mechanism: he left one of her hands empty and put a sequence of test substances directly in her other hand and then did the pressing-on-her-arms thing. >Can the >kinesiologist explain by what route information from the >bottle he or she is touching is conveyed to the mark's arm? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Hi I think just because something cannot scientifically be proven yet does not mean it cannot provide some benefit, for example prayer. My own personal opinion is that there is something to it, but 1) it really depends on the practitioner and their skill in interpreting results 2) it gets abused which produces a lot of nonsense. regards, Joe > > I recently met with a naturapath who performed some things on me > that left > > me with some questions. Now before I continue I consider myself a > very > > open-minded individual who obviously wouldn't have been there if I > didn't > > have some sort of a belief in alternative medicine. Kinesiology was > > performed on me and for those who don't know this is another name > for muscle > > testing. The practitioner began touching viles of liquid while at > the same > > time lightly pressing on my outstretched left arm. When my arm > budged > > downward the contents in the vile didn't agree with my body and > when my arm > > stayed strong there was no adverse reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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