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I hurt my shoulder at work and my boss made me go to the doctor. He said it

was probably tendonitus and should get better in 2-4 weeks. If not, it was

probably a torn rotator cuff and they would do an MRI most likely followed

by surgery. He said I should take ibuprofen (which I won't) and gave me a

prescription for Vicoden for the pain which is pretty bad. I have no

intention of getting the prescription filled. What I want to know is if

anyone on this list knows of any specific nutritional remedy that would

ease the pain and help it heal faster. If you've got any ideas, I would

appreciate hearing it.

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Wobenzyme is supposed to be good for healing injuries. It is a german

enzyme product. I don't know if it helps with pain.

Irene

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>I hurt my shoulder at work and my boss made me go to the doctor. He said it

>was probably tendonitus and should get better in 2-4 weeks. If not, it was

>probably a torn rotator cuff and they would do an MRI most likely followed

>by surgery. He said I should take ibuprofen (which I won't) and gave me a

>prescription for Vicoden for the pain which is pretty bad. I have no

>intention of getting the prescription filled. What I want to know is if

>anyone on this list knows of any specific nutritional remedy that would

>ease the pain and help it heal faster. If you've got any ideas, I would

>appreciate hearing it.

>

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I've never heard of this product but I will look into it. Thanks.

>Wobenzyme is supposed to be good for healing injuries. It is a german

>enzyme product. I don't know if it helps with pain.

>Irene

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I've been taking glucosamine, chondroitin, and MSM. Maybe I should up my

dosage. If this pain persists, I'm afraid I'll give in and get the Vicadin

prescription filled.

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>

>I don't know that this will help rapidly, but a high dose of a good quality

>chondroitin sulfate supplement is definitely worth trying. I recommend the

>LEF's (www.lef.org).

>

> >If you've got any ideas, I would

> >appreciate hearing it.

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We've got bags filled with rice and wheat kernals and I have been using

them. I've never heard of it being done with flax. I live in a small area

and can't get flax locally. It would use up my supply if I did as you

suggested. I will keep this in mind and pick up some extra next time I make

it to Denver. Thanks.

> >What I want to know is if

> >anyone on this list knows of any specific nutritional remedy that would

> >ease the pain and help it heal faster. If you've got any ideas, I would

> >appreciate hearing it.

> >

> >

>

>Really, really low tech, but what works for me is:

>

>1. Get a bag (make one out of cotton).

>2. Fill it loosely with a few cups of flax seeds

>(cheap at the coop -- they sell em for horse food).

>3. Add your favorite herb (eucalyptus and peppermint for me).

>4. Sew it up.

>

>Put it in the microwave for 2 minutes to heat up (Ok, yeah, it's

>the microwave but you are NOT eating it!). You can buy these

>premade at crafts fairs around here, and probably over the

>Internet. The commercial ones, with plastic beads, made me

>feel weird though and I just couldn't get into them. Ditto

>for electric hot pads, they aren't the same.

>

>Snuggle it up against the sore spot. Obviously: be careful

>about burns, don't let it get too hot.

>This increases the circulation at the spot and tends

>to speed healing. I'm not sure with tendonitis ... I used to get

>it constantly when I was eating gluten but I don't know if

>it was the gluten or the lack of cal/mag/d. I'd get it whenever

>I didn't wear padded shoes ... now I go barefoot a lot and

>there are no problems, but I don't know what all the issues are.

>

>I'd certainly play with diet though, before having surgery. Some of

>the food-allergy type problems damage the connective tissue or

>cause " unkown pain " and I know people who just keep getting

>surgery after surgery and no one knows what is going on. If they

>can SEE the damage and it's easily fixed though, that might

>be different.

>

>Another thing that helps is steroids ... well, you don't want

>to take them as pills, but if you use the OTHER arm to lift

>weights, or do squats or something slow and strenous, then you'll

>get more circulating steroids. Worst thing is bedrest. I bought

>an Air cast when I was getting sprains, and their literature said

>they did studies on athletes ... sprains heal faster when the

>athlete KEEPS TRAINING -- if the sprain is properly supported.

>

>-- Heidi

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Nice story and encouraging. I'm still working though the doctor thinks I

shouldn't. I can't afford not to as workman's comp wouldn't make my house

payment.

>In 1973 my hubby and I bicycled with a group from Lansing to Mackinac,

>nearly 400 miles. About an hour out Lansing I ran my bike off a drop off

>from the pavement to the shoulder. Dumped the bike and sprained my left

>ankle. I had paid too much money for the privilege of torturing myself with

>such a long (for me) ride, so I picked up the undamaged bike and kept

>riding. It hurt like the dickens for the first few turns of the pedal, then

>it didn't hurt until I got off and tried to walk.

>

>Everyone said I should go to the doctor, but I decided that I couldn't ride

>the bike flat on my back with my foot in the air, so I kept going. Because I

>couldn't walk on that foot I stayed very close t o my bike, using it as a

>crutch.

>

>Today that ankle bothers me not the slightest. If I didn't remember the

>incident I'd never know it happened.

>

>Judith Alta

>

>-----Original Message-----

>[snip] Worst thing is bedrest. I bought

>an Air cast when I was getting sprains, and their literature said

>they did studies on athletes ... sprains heal faster when the

>athlete KEEPS TRAINING -- if the sprain is properly supported.

>

>-- Heidi

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Thanks for the info. The doctor said it could be a rotator cuff but can't

tell without an MRI. It's encouraging to know that your husband healed fine

without surgery. They always want to cut you with that type of injury.

>st. john's wort oil helps with soft tissue injuries and often also lessens

>the pain. you just massage it right in. you might also try tiger balm or

>liquid form called zhen X X (i have to go upstairs and check out what the

>second two words are.) my husband tore his rotator cuff and just treated it

>nice and easy for a few months, then worked on strengthening the area

>slowly with weight-lifting. he's fine now, and doesn't have any trouble

>wrangling the animals or tossing hay bales or whatever.

>

>

>

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I do take MSM. I usually have bromelain and ginger on hand but am out of

both now. I'm not sure I can get either locally but will check at the

stores tomorrow. Thanks.

>About 6 or so years ago I had a really bad shoulder. Dr called it

>Bursitis and a " frozen shoulder " . Therapy and pills wouldn't help at

>all. Worst was at nite, couldn't sleep at all. Finally I found a little

>chinese lady in a HFS that recommended MSM. It was pretty new at the

>time and not many had heard of it yet. I put a tsp in my coffee several

>times a day. After just a few days the pain went away. It was even

>better when I added bromillian tabs and ginger to my routine.

>

>The pain was gone but I still couldn't move the shoulder much. That's

>where the chiropractor did wonders.

>

>Here is where I get my MSM

><https://secure3.super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html>https://secure3.supe\

r-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html

>I get the 55 lb drum about once a year.

>

>If you try the Bromilian (pineapple) look for the highest dose you can

>find. GNC has a tab that's 1500 GDU/gram or somewhere in that range.

>Take it between meals or it will just work to digest your food, not ease

>the pain.

>

>I really like ginger too but it can give you heartburn until you get

>used to it. Take just one tab 2 or 3 times a day and build up to 2 tabs

>2 or 3 times a day.

>

>Carol K

>

> >Message: 9

> > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:34:31 -0700

> > From: Long <longc@...>

> >Subject: tendonitus

> >

> >I hurt my shoulder at work and my boss made me go to the doctor. He said it

> >was probably tendonitus and should get better in 2-4 weeks. If not, it was

> >probably a torn rotator cuff and they would do an MRI most likely followed

> >by surgery. He said I should take ibuprofen (which I won't) and gave me a

> >prescription for Vicoden for the pain which is pretty bad. I have no

> >intention of getting the prescription filled. What I want to know is if

> >anyone on this list knows of any specific nutritional remedy that would

> >ease the pain and help it heal faster. If you've got any ideas, I would

> >appreciate hearing it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Thanks. I'll check out that forum and get out some of the broth we have in

the freezer.

>,

>

>Chondroitin glucosamine or glucosamine sulfate is the thing with athletes

>for joint problems. Even my daughters orthopedic surgeon recommends it. I

>don't know if that is the same that is talking about or not. I am

>pretty certain though the main nutrient believed most helpful is the

>glucosamine. In sports medicine, the thing now is to apply cold when the

>injury occurs to minimize blood flow and swelling. Then afterwards, you

>alternate between cold and hot again affecting blood flow and swelling which

>helps with pain. Also on the WAP site, they talk about bone broth soups

>being helpful for joints including cartilage because of the proline and

>glycine. The pain comes from the trauma and injury so all the help healing

>that will help the pain.

>

>There is another forum (Alternative_Medicine_Forum). A naturopath (JoAnn

>Guest) moderates and posts frequently there. Sometime in the last year or

>so, she posted a list of foods with particular nutrients that help pain. I

>cannot find that post now and am limited in time to search- the only one I

>remember is pineapple which contains the bromillian that Carol mentioned.

>You might consider joining that group and asking her

>

>I know too that athletes like Motrin 800 mgs (prescription) and Vioxx. I

>wouldn't push perscription meds but my daughter dislocated her shoulder back

>some years ago and I still remember the pain that went with it. We learned

>what is involved if one does have surgery. Her MRI showed no tear to the

>rotator cuff, just stretched tendons. So we did not do surgery but she

>later tore her ACL and did have surgery. That was one of those experiences

>that I thanked God for codine. You have my empathy. A lot of physical

>therapy strenghtened the tendons in her arm but she never regained the

>control she had before. They are still longer than they should be. It only

>shows in overhand movement - she can throw a ball underhand just fine but

>cannot control her accruacy and has insufficient force when she throws

>overhand.

>

>Sorry that happened to you.

>

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Ginger beer from NT should work wonder to I would imagine?

For inflamed muscles/joints ( I got 6 bottles ready in a cpl of days lol )

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From: Long [mailto:longc@...]

Sent: Friday, 16 January 2004 9:03 AM

Subject: Re: Re: tendonitus

I do take MSM. I usually have bromelain and ginger on hand but am out of

both now. I'm not sure I can get either locally but will check at the

stores tomorrow. Thanks.

>About 6 or so years ago I had a really bad shoulder. Dr called it

>Bursitis and a " frozen shoulder " . Therapy and pills wouldn't help at

>all. Worst was at nite, couldn't sleep at all. Finally I found a little

>chinese lady in a HFS that recommended MSM. It was pretty new at the

>time and not many had heard of it yet. I put a tsp in my coffee several

>times a day. After just a few days the pain went away. It was even

>better when I added bromillian tabs and ginger to my routine.

>

>The pain was gone but I still couldn't move the shoulder much. That's

>where the chiropractor did wonders.

>

>Here is where I get my MSM

><https://secure3.super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html>https://secure3.

super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html

>I get the 55 lb drum about once a year.

>

>If you try the Bromilian (pineapple) look for the highest dose you can

>find. GNC has a tab that's 1500 GDU/gram or somewhere in that range.

>Take it between meals or it will just work to digest your food, not ease

>the pain.

>

>I really like ginger too but it can give you heartburn until you get

>used to it. Take just one tab 2 or 3 times a day and build up to 2 tabs

>2 or 3 times a day.

>

>Carol K

>

> >Message: 9

> > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:34:31 -0700

> > From: Long <longc@...>

> >Subject: tendonitus

> >

> >I hurt my shoulder at work and my boss made me go to the doctor. He said

it

> >was probably tendonitus and should get better in 2-4 weeks. If not, it

was

> >probably a torn rotator cuff and they would do an MRI most likely

followed

> >by surgery. He said I should take ibuprofen (which I won't) and gave me a

> >prescription for Vicoden for the pain which is pretty bad. I have no

> >intention of getting the prescription filled. What I want to know is if

> >anyone on this list knows of any specific nutritional remedy that would

> >ease the pain and help it heal faster. If you've got any ideas, I would

> >appreciate hearing it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Long wrote:

I hurt my shoulder at work and my boss made me go to the doctor. He said it

was probably tendonitus and should get better in 2-4 weeks. If not, it was

probably a torn rotator cuff and they would do an MRI most likely followed

by surgery. He said I should take ibuprofen (which I won't) and gave me a

prescription for Vicoden for the pain which is pretty bad. I have no

intention of getting the prescription filled. What I want to know is if

anyone on this list knows of any specific nutritional remedy that would

ease the pain and help it heal faster. If you've got any ideas, I would

appreciate hearing it.

Hi ,

Just saw your message (sheesh this board is hard to keep up with)

Anyway, I have 2 ideas. One is to try a systemic enzyme like Vitalzyme,

interestingly it has Bromelain in it which I see others have recommended.

See the Vitalzyme website: http://www.vitalzym.com/vitalzym.htm

And also info from Dr. Wong who is big into this and treats athletes I

believe, he has some interesting articles on his site at:

http://www.drwong.info/index.html plus you can write and ask him questions,

I've done it and gotten fairly prompt responses. I don't have an acute

injury but use this regularly because I train in karate and I have

significantly improved recovery from hard workouts. For acute injuries I

think you need to take pretty high doses but read Dr. Wong's info on this.

The second idea isn't nutritional and may not be your cup of tea but I'll

throw it out just in case. Warning if you don't believe in a mind-body

connection then just ignore the rest of this message. There is a healing

technique called EFT (stands for Emotional Freedom Technique) that is one of

the new type of Energy Psychology Therapies sometime called Power Therapies

or Meridian Techniques. There are a number of these but I like this one

(EFT) because it is easy to learn and use and it's developer, Craig,

maintains an extensive website with a free downloadable manual to learn it,

plus lots of case studies that are searchable. Here's the site:

www.emofree.com <http://www.emofree.com/>

Though you can use it directly on the pain you are having now and it may

help (lots of examples on the website), I would recommend (and I don't think

this is on the website) applying the technique (i.e. tapping) directly on

the memories of the time when you acquired the injury until it is totally

clear and free of all emotional charge. Again this may seem like a bunch of

freakiness but in skilled hands this is an amazing technique and I have

helped a number of people with musculoskeletal complaints with this although

I have never had a client with tendonitis. I have a colleague who worked

with a woman with a frozen shoulder (she'd had it for many months and had

failed all conventional therapy and was scheduled for surgery the next week)

and using this technique she had complete range of motion in a couple of

hours.

Anyway, just thought I'd throw these ideas out just in case you might find

them useful. Best of luck,

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Where do you live? I'll be over to have a bottle.

>Ginger beer from NT should work wonder to I would imagine?

>

>For inflamed muscles/joints ( I got 6 bottles ready in a cpl of days lol )

>

> _____

>

>From: Long [mailto:longc@...]

>Sent: Friday, 16 January 2004 9:03 AM

>

>Subject: Re: Re: tendonitus

>

>

>

>I do take MSM. I usually have bromelain and ginger on hand but am out of

>both now. I'm not sure I can get either locally but will check at the

>stores tomorrow. Thanks.

>

>

>

>

> >About 6 or so years ago I had a really bad shoulder. Dr called it

> >Bursitis and a " frozen shoulder " . Therapy and pills wouldn't help at

> >all. Worst was at nite, couldn't sleep at all. Finally I found a little

> >chinese lady in a HFS that recommended MSM. It was pretty new at the

> >time and not many had heard of it yet. I put a tsp in my coffee several

> >times a day. After just a few days the pain went away. It was even

> >better when I added bromillian tabs and ginger to my routine.

> >

> >The pain was gone but I still couldn't move the shoulder much. That's

> >where the chiropractor did wonders.

> >

> >Here is where I get my MSM

> ><<https://secure3.super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html>https://secur

> e3.super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html>https://secure3.

>super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html

> >I get the 55 lb drum about once a year.

> >

> >If you try the Bromilian (pineapple) look for the highest dose you can

> >find. GNC has a tab that's 1500 GDU/gram or somewhere in that range.

> >Take it between meals or it will just work to digest your food, not ease

> >the pain.

> >

> >I really like ginger too but it can give you heartburn until you get

> >used to it. Take just one tab 2 or 3 times a day and build up to 2 tabs

> >2 or 3 times a day.

> >

> >Carol K

> >

> > >Message: 9

> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:34:31 -0700

> > > From: Long <longc@...>

> > >Subject: tendonitus

> > >

> > >I hurt my shoulder at work and my boss made me go to the doctor. He said

>it

> > >was probably tendonitus and should get better in 2-4 weeks. If not, it

>was

> > >probably a torn rotator cuff and they would do an MRI most likely

>followed

> > >by surgery. He said I should take ibuprofen (which I won't) and gave me a

> > >prescription for Vicoden for the pain which is pretty bad. I have no

> > >intention of getting the prescription filled. What I want to know is if

> > >anyone on this list knows of any specific nutritional remedy that would

> > >ease the pain and help it heal faster. If you've got any ideas, I would

> > >appreciate hearing it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Brisbane australia :-)

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From: Long [mailto:longc@...]

Sent: Friday, 16 January 2004 11:47 AM

Subject: RE: Re: tendonitus

Where do you live? I'll be over to have a bottle.

>Ginger beer from NT should work wonder to I would imagine?

>

>For inflamed muscles/joints ( I got 6 bottles ready in a cpl of days lol )

>

> _____

>

>From: Long [mailto:longc@...]

>Sent: Friday, 16 January 2004 9:03 AM

>

>Subject: Re: Re: tendonitus

>

>

>

>I do take MSM. I usually have bromelain and ginger on hand but am out of

>both now. I'm not sure I can get either locally but will check at the

>stores tomorrow. Thanks.

>

>

>

>

> >About 6 or so years ago I had a really bad shoulder. Dr called it

> >Bursitis and a " frozen shoulder " . Therapy and pills wouldn't help at

> >all. Worst was at nite, couldn't sleep at all. Finally I found a little

> >chinese lady in a HFS that recommended MSM. It was pretty new at the

> >time and not many had heard of it yet. I put a tsp in my coffee several

> >times a day. After just a few days the pain went away. It was even

> >better when I added bromillian tabs and ginger to my routine.

> >

> >The pain was gone but I still couldn't move the shoulder much. That's

> >where the chiropractor did wonders.

> >

> >Here is where I get my MSM

> ><<https://secure3.super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html>https://secur

> e3.super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html>https://secure3.

>super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html

> >I get the 55 lb drum about once a year.

> >

> >If you try the Bromilian (pineapple) look for the highest dose you can

> >find. GNC has a tab that's 1500 GDU/gram or somewhere in that range.

> >Take it between meals or it will just work to digest your food, not ease

> >the pain.

> >

> >I really like ginger too but it can give you heartburn until you get

> >used to it. Take just one tab 2 or 3 times a day and build up to 2 tabs

> >2 or 3 times a day.

> >

> >Carol K

> >

> > >Message: 9

> > > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:34:31 -0700

> > > From: Long <longc@...>

> > >Subject: tendonitus

> > >

> > >I hurt my shoulder at work and my boss made me go to the doctor. He

said

>it

> > >was probably tendonitus and should get better in 2-4 weeks. If not, it

>was

> > >probably a torn rotator cuff and they would do an MRI most likely

>followed

> > >by surgery. He said I should take ibuprofen (which I won't) and gave me

a

> > >prescription for Vicoden for the pain which is pretty bad. I have no

> > >intention of getting the prescription filled. What I want to know is if

> > >anyone on this list knows of any specific nutritional remedy that would

> > >ease the pain and help it heal faster. If you've got any ideas, I would

> > >appreciate hearing it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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>We've got bags filled with rice and wheat kernals and I have been using

>them. I've never heard of it being done with flax. I live in a small area

>and can't get flax locally. It would use up my supply if I did as you

>suggested. I will keep this in mind and pick up some extra next time I make

>it to Denver. Thanks.

>

>

The advantage of flax is that it doesn't seem to get buggy

and there is no bits of starch flaking off. It was 0.69 a lb

as horse feed. Sounds like rice and wheat work too.

-- Heidi

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I'm sorry to hear that. Glucosamine, though, is of very little value

compared to chondroitin, and I've read that many supplements with

chondroitin don't have as much as they're supposed to. The LEF's, by

contrast, is good as gold. I've gotten superb results from it, and my

girlfriend has actually gotten nearly immediate improvement from it, though

she's the only one I know of who's been helped by it that quickly.

>I've been taking glucosamine, chondroitin, and MSM. Maybe I should up my

>dosage. If this pain persists, I'm afraid I'll give in and get the Vicadin

>prescription filled.

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I read something recently that said that low levels of vitamin D are

associated with a higher level of perceived pain.

Also, magnesium is helpful as a muscle relaxant, but I don't know if

tendonitis is in the same category as cramped muscles. (If my neck

gets crackly, I eat cashews and/or take a magnesium pill.) You don't

want to overdo it, though, because it can have a laxative effect.

When we switched from 2% milk to whole milk, and my heel spur pain (I

assume that's what they were--I never got them diagnosed, but I was

on the verge of going to the doctor with them) lessened noticeably

within 1 month, then completely went away during the next year or so,

it made me wonder just what it was about the whole milk that made the

difference.

I knew that if you don't get enough of the fat-soluble vitamins A and

D, then you won't handle calcium and other minerals right. I assume

that means you will deposit it where it shouldn't be, and remove it

from where it should be.

Since vitamin D helps with pain (according to that recent article),

perhaps it was the increased amount of vitamin D that did the trick.

I never took glucosamine or any of the other supplements for joints

and pain.

The only supplement I take is cod liver oil (1 tablespoon with

breakfast).

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I guess I won't be coming over after all. Bummer.

>Brisbane australia :-)

>

>

>

> _____

>

>From: Long [mailto:longc@...]

>Sent: Friday, 16 January 2004 11:47 AM

>

>Subject: RE: Re: tendonitus

>

>

>

>Where do you live? I'll be over to have a bottle.

>

>

> >Ginger beer from NT should work wonder to I would imagine?

> >

> >For inflamed muscles/joints ( I got 6 bottles ready in a cpl of days lol )

> >

> > _____

> >

> >From: Long [mailto:longc@...]

> >Sent: Friday, 16 January 2004 9:03 AM

> >

> >Subject: Re: Re: tendonitus

> >

> >

> >

> >I do take MSM. I usually have bromelain and ginger on hand but am out of

> >both now. I'm not sure I can get either locally but will check at the

> >stores tomorrow. Thanks.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >About 6 or so years ago I had a really bad shoulder. Dr called it

> > >Bursitis and a " frozen shoulder " . Therapy and pills wouldn't help at

> > >all. Worst was at nite, couldn't sleep at all. Finally I found a little

> > >chinese lady in a HFS that recommended MSM. It was pretty new at the

> > >time and not many had heard of it yet. I put a tsp in my coffee several

> > >times a day. After just a few days the pain went away. It was even

> > >better when I added bromillian tabs and ginger to my routine.

> > >

> > >The pain was gone but I still couldn't move the shoulder much. That's

> > >where the chiropractor did wonders.

> > >

> > >Here is where I get my MSM

> > ><<<https://secure3.super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html>https://se

> cure3.super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html>https://secur

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e3.super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html><https://secure3.>https://secure3.

> >super-nova.net/msm-msm/shop/boutique.html

> > >I get the 55 lb drum about once a year.

> > >

> > >If you try the Bromilian (pineapple) look for the highest dose you can

> > >find. GNC has a tab that's 1500 GDU/gram or somewhere in that range.

> > >Take it between meals or it will just work to digest your food, not ease

> > >the pain.

> > >

> > >I really like ginger too but it can give you heartburn until you get

> > >used to it. Take just one tab 2 or 3 times a day and build up to 2 tabs

> > >2 or 3 times a day.

> > >

> > >Carol K

> > >

> > > >Message: 9

> > > > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:34:31 -0700

> > > > From: Long <longc@...>

> > > >Subject: tendonitus

> > > >

> > > >I hurt my shoulder at work and my boss made me go to the doctor. He

>said

> >it

> > > >was probably tendonitus and should get better in 2-4 weeks. If not, it

> >was

> > > >probably a torn rotator cuff and they would do an MRI most likely

> >followed

> > > >by surgery. He said I should take ibuprofen (which I won't) and gave me

>a

> > > >prescription for Vicoden for the pain which is pretty bad. I have no

> > > >intention of getting the prescription filled. What I want to know is if

> > > >anyone on this list knows of any specific nutritional remedy that would

> > > >ease the pain and help it heal faster. If you've got any ideas, I would

> > > >appreciate hearing it.

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