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Have you read Nourishing Traditions? Your diet should include ample amounts

of meat and meat fats as well as other animal based fats such as eggs and

raw and cultured dairy products. Grains need to soaked or fermented so

bread should be sourdough or quickbreads made by soaking the flour in

buttermilk, yogurt, or keffir overnight. Corn should be freshly ground and

soaked in lime. The reasons for this will be found in NT so that is a must

for your library. As for the soy, forget about it. It's not a health

panacea and is, in fact, an anti-nutrient. Soy needs a lengthy fermenting

so soy consumption should be confined to fermented soy products like miso

and naturally fermented soy sauce and then I would only consume it in small

amounts. If you're doing this for health reasons, stay away from soy.

Beans, rice, and other whole grains are fine but need to be properly

prepared so, again, read NT. But you still need to include animal products

and fat in your diet. Don't use vegetable oil or shortening. Use butter or

lard (cheap) instead. Eat eggs. Eat fresh vegetables. Learn to ferment

foods. I assume you haven't read NT since you mentioned soy flour but is

absolutely the best book on diet and health ever written in my opinion so

you really need to get a copy. You can simplify your diet for economic

reasons as you stated but if you want to do it for health, those foods have

to be properly prepared for your body to get any benefits from them so get

a copy of Nourishing Traditions. Then you will be armed with the proper

knowledge to make an impact on your health.

>For economic and health reasons I want to simplify my diet. I've

>heard that staples like rice, beans and corn can be the basis for a

>healthy diet. Are there simple rules to follow? I like to bake

>bread, so I could include soy or other flours. I don't intend to cut

>meat entirely out.

>

>Thanks!

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>For economic and health reasons I want to simplify my diet. I've

>heard that staples like rice, beans and corn can be the basis for a

>healthy diet. Are there simple rules to follow? I like to bake

>bread, so I could include soy or other flours. I don't intend to cut

>meat entirely out.

>

>Thanks!

Actually I think buying half a steer is a LOT simpler.

To cook grains " correctly " is a lot of work. Tossing

a steak under the broiler is easy, and fairly

inexpensive if you buy meat wholesale.

Some people might do well on a high grain/bean diet,

if the genes are right and you soak them etc. per

Nourishing Traditions, and eat them once a day

per the Warrior Diet. But more and more the research

seems to be that grains (esp. wheat/barley/rye) are

very problematic. The more " paleo " a diet is, the

more likely to be healthy. Mercola has a whole

book out about that now.

That said, when I want to save time and money,

my staple has always been tacos. The corn tamales

are properly treated before you get them with lime,

and frying them lowers the glycemic index, you can

use any ol' meat, and they taste really good (esp.

filled with chopped kimchi or lettuce/avacado/onion).

You can also make a batch in advance, freeze them,

and heat them up in the toaster oven when you get

home from work.

You can also make a pot of beans at the beginning

of the week and reheat as needed, and a big pot

of rice. I wouldn't avoid meat though ... people

need it. Fruits and vegies too -- fermented vegies

being the best.

-- Heidi

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> For economic and health reasons I want to simplify my diet. I've

> heard that staples like rice, beans and corn can be the basis for a

> healthy diet. Are there simple rules to follow? I like to bake

> bread, so I could include soy or other flours. I don't intend to cut

> meat entirely out.

>

> Thanks!

-------I'm WAY behind in reading all these messages, so forgive me if this has

already been said...

Stocks and bone broths are an economical way to get animal protein and fat

into your diet. They are " protein sparing " , meaning you get the benefit of a

much larger meat consumption without actually eating a lot of meat. If you use

stock in your rice, and lard (from a good source) in your beans (like

traditional

Mexicans), and eat some good quality raw dairy products (like a sour cream),

then you are eating a healthy diet (though not as healthy as a more animal

based diet, IMHO).

I would stay away from soy flour entirely, and I'm sure that sentiment will be

seconded by others on this list.

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>I've

>heard that staples like rice, beans and corn can be the basis for a

>healthy diet.

It depends what you mean by " basis " , but the short answer is a resounding

no, no way, no how. Depending on your preexisting state of health and on

how you prepare those foods they can possibly be a component of a healthy

diet, but they'll always be the least nutritious least useful part of that

diet. Humans require abundant fat-soluble vitamins from animal foods in

order to be healthy. Some people can get away with eating less meat by

stretching their protein with homemade stock and bone broths, but there's a

limit to how well that will work. And if you examine traditional cultures

which employed lots of foods like rice, beans and corn, you'll find that

they also used tons of animal fat. Traditional Mexican cuisine, for

example, involves lots of lard.

A good primer on preparing nutrient-dense foods in which nutrient

availability is maximized is _Nourishing Traditions_, which is part

cookbook, part nutritional information and advice.

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In a message dated 1/18/04 12:52:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kristenchavez@... writes:

> I would stay away from soy flour entirely, and I'm sure that sentiment will

> be

> seconded by others on this list.

Hell yes! I used to eat lots of stuff with soy flour. It's the most nasty

tasting stuff in the world-- my gf and I used loads of ginger, cinnamin,

nutmeg, and other spices to mask the taste. I wouldn't touch it again with a

ten-foot pole.

It also has 4 times the phytoestrogen concentration of tofu.

Chris

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