Re: milk fast - is fresh milk harmful?

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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:05:12 -0500

" Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...> wrote:

>>What do you believe is harmful about fresh milk?

>

>---->i tend to think fresh milk can be a compromise food or a superfood

>depending on the *quality* and *freshness* of the milk AND on the individual

>drinking it - largely due to his or her genetics and health of the

>intestines. both michael and ron schmid have mentioned that they, or in

>ron's case - many clients, can digest milk well from strictly grass-fed

>animals, but not so with milk from grain-fed cows.

Well in my case it wasn't just the fact the milk was grass fed - i was

having problems with milk that was 100% grass fed - it was only when my

supplier increased the quality of her milk that the problems went away.

But it was always grass fed.

It should be noted that I was having problems with cows milk. I have

never had a problem with milk from other animals. I am inclined to

believe that many humans aren't very well adapted to drinking cows milk,

since there seems to be far fewer problems with milk from other animals.

and both have mentioned

>that *they* digest VERY fresh milk best - straight from the cow. ron now has

>his own jerseys, and he told me that he digests his cows' milk best when he

>drinks it *immediately* after milking, yet if he drinks it even an hour or

>so after milking, he doesn't digest it so well. so i wonder if there's some

>as yet unknown *freshness* factor (perhaps a digestive enzyme that time

>destroys?) that enables people (and animals) to digest fresh milk best? it

>seems milk was designed to be drunk straight from the teet or nipple (at

>least that's how all species have drunk it except adult humans for the past

>8,000 years or so)...maybe it takes time for a species to evolve the

>capability to digest " old " milk (meaning fresh - but not cultured)? dunno -

>just throwing the thought out there.

What is interesting is that the Masai milk directly into the gourds they

use for fermenting their milk. By all accounts the drinking of fresh

milk (and cold at that) is a rather new practice. Milk straight from the

animal is warm and yummy.

I read once long ago about some way to measure the " life " force in a

food. IIRC, after about an hour the " life " force of milk was

dramatically reduced. After 4 hours it was non-existent. I seem to

recall Bernard Jensen talking about this as well.

>

>in any case, i wonder if price's swiss children drank their " fresh " milk

>shortly after milking? or if it was several hours old. and i also wonder if

>the freshness factor would be true for most folks as it seems to be for

>michael and ron? perhaps these variables make " fresh " milk either a

>compromise food or a superfood.

I have seen with my own eyes the difference milk straight from the

animal and milk that is hours old can make in someone's healing

evolution. It can be quite dramatic.

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>---->i tend to think fresh milk can be a compromise food or a superfood

>depending on the *quality* and *freshness* of the milk AND on the

individual

>drinking it - largely due to his or her genetics and health of the

>intestines. both michael and ron schmid have mentioned that they, or in

>ron's case - many clients, can digest milk well from strictly grass-fed

>animals, but not so with milk from grain-fed cows.

>>>>Well in my case it wasn't just the fact the milk was grass fed - i was

having problems with milk that was 100% grass fed - it was only when my

supplier increased the quality of her milk that the problems went away.

But it was always grass fed.

----->oh right, i forgot that it was the *high brix* milk that you digest

well.

>>>>I read once long ago about some way to measure the " life " force in a

food. IIRC, after about an hour the " life " force of milk was

dramatically reduced. After 4 hours it was non-existent. I seem to

recall Bernard Jensen talking about this as well.

--------->kirlian photography perhaps? that's somewhat controversial, but i

find it interesting personally.

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:04:04 -0500

" Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...> wrote:

>--------->kirlian photography perhaps? that's somewhat controversial, but i

>find it interesting personally.

>

That just might be it. What do you know about it?

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>

> >--------->kirlian photography perhaps? that's somewhat

controversial, but i

> >find it interesting personally.

> >

>

> That just might be it. What do you know about it?

>

it captures the " aura " or " life force " of a subject. that's about as

much as i know about it. we discussed it on beyondprice a while back.

martha was skeptical and had some interesting comments on it, IIRC.

but i also read something about it in a book on digestive health that

i have. IIRC, the author said she found it pretty reliable for

measuring the " life energy " of " live " foods vs. cooked foods, or

something of that nature. sorry i can't elaborate more!

suze