Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Anyone who is interested in Atkins should read this whole article. Seems like " the company " is changing tacks. -- Heidi http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/18/nyregion/18DIET.html After advising dieters for years to satisfy their hunger with liberal amounts of steak, eggs and other saturated fats, the promoters of the Atkins diet now say that people on their plan should limit the amount of red meat and saturated fat they eat. Responding to years of criticism from scientists that the Atkins version of a low-carbohydrate, high-fat regimen might lead to heart disease and other health problems, the director of research and education for Atkins Nutritionals, Colette Heimowitz, is telling health professionals in seminars around the country that only 20 percent of a dieter's calories should come from saturated fat. Atkins Nutritionals was set up by Dr. C. Atkins to sell Atkins products and promote the diet. ''' The change comes as Atkins faces competition from other popular low-carbohydrate diets that call for less saturated fat. A book on one such plan, the South Beach Diet, came out in April 2003 and has sold more than five million copies. Atkins representatives made the revision, Ms. Heimowitz said, because " we want physicians to feel comfortable with this diet, and we want people who are going to their physicians with this diet to feel comfortable. " ---------------- You should read this article soon, as the NYT only allows them to be " free " for a certain length of time. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Heidi, Based on that article, it sounds that Heimowitz is just compromising to the medical establishment so more doctors will accept the diet. It may be based more on business than science. Atkins is dead so he obviously isn't around to give his opinion on this. From everything I have read of his, this is not consistent with his views but not exactly inconsistent either. His contention was that high cholesterol was a function of too many saturated fats combined with too many carbohydrates. You could raise or lower intake of either one to bring down cholesterol and triglyceride levels. In his last book on normal eating as opposed to weight loss, he does increase carb intake and lowers saturated fat intake. I think this is one of the main differences in his diet for weight loss as opposed to some of the others like SugarBusters or South Beach. I haven't read South Beach but I know SugarBusters has to have more limit in the amount of food intake to achieve weight loss when doing this. But I question as to whether Atkins would have approved of this change. I can't remember where it was, but I read him discussing the effects of high fat intake which one was it sped up metabolism. Thus theoritically he said, eating even more could speed weight loss. Excess weight is major strain to the heart as well as the whole system and I would think it debatable as to which would be more important - getting that excess weight off first or decreasing red meat. Also red meat is the best source of carnitine which is another that speeds up metabolism. He has another article discussing that it may be quite helpful to those with hypothyroidism which many over weight people have. He also promotes the egg as one of the most perfect foods one could eat. Needless to say, many of his followers have wondered what would happen with his organization after his death. This indicates there is a new leader. It will be interesting to follow what she does next. Atkins research: Interesting! Anyone who is interested in Atkins should read this whole article. Seems like " the company " is changing tacks. -- Heidi http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/18/nyregion/18DIET.html After advising dieters for years to satisfy their hunger with liberal amounts of steak, eggs and other saturated fats, the promoters of the Atkins diet now say that people on their plan should limit the amount of red meat and saturated fat they eat. Responding to years of criticism from scientists that the Atkins version of a low-carbohydrate, high-fat regimen might lead to heart disease and other health problems, the director of research and education for Atkins Nutritionals, Colette Heimowitz, is telling health professionals in seminars around the country that only 20 percent of a dieter's calories should come from saturated fat. Atkins Nutritionals was set up by Dr. C. Atkins to sell Atkins products and promote the diet. ''' The change comes as Atkins faces competition from other popular low-carbohydrate diets that call for less saturated fat. A book on one such plan, the South Beach Diet, came out in April 2003 and has sold more than five million copies. Atkins representatives made the revision, Ms. Heimowitz said, because " we want physicians to feel comfortable with this diet, and we want people who are going to their physicians with this diet to feel comfortable. " ---------------- You should read this article soon, as the NYT only allows them to be " free " for a certain length of time. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 I know that the following is preaching to the choir. But I've just got to rant. How many of you have seen reports of damage done to humans by following Atkins lifestyle? I saw one article where three people were blaming Atkins for their problems, and all of the symptoms listed could have come straight from the " 92 Symptoms of Aspartame Poisoning " that's on www.dorway.com (do a search for 92 symptoms). When Atkins died it was law that his clinic had to be sold within six months. That has been done. So, as I see it, unless one is following a low-carb diet from one of the books Atkins wrote it is no longer the Atkins diet, it is a low-carb diet. After 30 of Atkins dieting is should have been obvious by now if red meat and saturated fat were as unhealthy as some claim. I don't believe it. Unhealthy is the 75% or more high carb fake foods that line the grocery store shelves. Unhealthy are the dozens of vegetable oils on those same shelves. Not the whole, natural foods that the human race evolved on. As recently as a century ago people were eating large quantities of butter, lard and tallow. And no heart disease in sight. Now the " Atkins " people are saying eat polyunsaturated fats. Hasn't it been proven that these fats are NOT healthy? Read the articles at the links posted by Dedy on the sugar wars. No amount of money will be spared to keep this country on a deadly high sugar diet. And to hell with the people who suffer because of it. It goes back to the saying, " If you can't make it in your own kitchen don't eat it. " I'll keep my red meat, eggs and saturated fats, thank you. Thanks for reading. Judith Alta Atkins research: Interesting! Anyone who is interested in Atkins should read this whole article. Seems like " the company " is changing tacks. -- Heidi http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/18/nyregion/18DIET.html After advising dieters for years to satisfy their hunger with liberal amounts of steak, eggs and other saturated fats, the promoters of the Atkins diet now say that people on their plan should limit the amount of red meat and saturated fat they eat. Responding to years of criticism from scientists that the Atkins version of a low-carbohydrate, high-fat regimen might lead to heart disease and other health problems, the director of research and education for Atkins Nutritionals, Colette Heimowitz, is telling health professionals in seminars around the country that only 20 percent of a dieter's calories should come from saturated fat. Atkins Nutritionals was set up by Dr. C. Atkins to sell Atkins products and promote the diet. ''' The change comes as Atkins faces competition from other popular low-carbohydrate diets that call for less saturated fat. A book on one such plan, the South Beach Diet, came out in April 2003 and has sold more than five million copies. Atkins representatives made the revision, Ms. Heimowitz said, because " we want physicians to feel comfortable with this diet, and we want people who are going to their physicians with this diet to feel comfortable. " ---------------- You should read this article soon, as the NYT only allows them to be " free " for a certain length of time. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Is this two-faced, or am I misinterpreting it? From page one of the article: Colette Heimowitz, is telling health professionals in seminars around the country that only 20 percent of a dieter's calories should come from saturated fat. From page two of the article: Ms. Heimowitz said, " Saturated fat isn't as much of an issue when carbohydrates are controlled; it's only dangerous in excess when carbs are high. " Judith Alta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Here's an Atkins link from England. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8126-965601,00,00.html I'm not happy with the Atkins line of " food " as don't believe that it's any healthier than any other highly processed fake food. They keep saying that there is no long-term proof that the Atkins diet is safe. If, after 30 years, they still don't know they better go back to school. (I know. I sound like a cracked record.) Judith Alta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Heidi- Further corruption. How depressing. >Atkins representatives made the revision, Ms. Heimowitz said, because " we >want physicians to feel comfortable with this diet, and we want people who >are going to their physicians with this diet to feel comfortable. " - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 >Based on that article, it sounds that Heimowitz is just compromising to the >medical establishment so more doctors will accept the diet. It may be based >more on business than science. Atkins is dead so he obviously isn't around >to give his opinion on this. From everything I have read of his, this is >not consistent with his views but not exactly inconsistent either. His >contention was that high cholesterol was a function of too many saturated >fats combined with too many carbohydrates. I would tend to agree ... though I'd also like to know more about the actual statistical connections that lead them to believe Sat. fat is so bad. I tend to agree with the earlier post that a lot of it has to do with milk and meat as they exist in this country ... so MANY people seem to have strange problems with milk, that have to do with casein intolerance or hormones, and the fats in the animals we are growing might well be pretty toxic. Which reminds me: did anyone catch the NPR special about breast milk in the Inuit the other day? A researcher was looking for PCB in breast milk in industrialized countries, and used some Inuit women as controls, because they live in one of the least polluted lands. He was shocked to find REALLY toxic levels of PCB's and other contaminants in Inuit milk ... because they eat a lot of seal fat, and seals are at the top of the food chain. The researcher was saying that at this high level, the contaminants were no doubt producing kids with lower IQ's, developmental problems, congenital defects. They want to start importing food to the Inuit with lower PCBs. Now THAT is sad. So in that case, there IS an actual causal connection between eating " fat " and problems ... if you were just looking at the statistics, and not looking for the underlying causes. If there is a statistical connection between beef fat, milk, and disease in America, then I'd expect the researchers at this point to chalk it up to " saturated fat " (because those are the sources of sat. fat in our culture) and we'll be hearing more and more of this. And, us fat-lovers will need to find ways to make it easier to get beef (and milk) from good sources. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 right, cause actually *cleaning up* the PCBs would be...ya know...effort. can't have that! /me stomps off to break something in rage. At 02:25 PM 1/18/2004, you wrote: >They want to start importing >food to the Inuit with lower PCBs. Now THAT is sad. atg technical support support@... 1-800-RING ATG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 The reason saturated fat is " so bad " is because the Edible Oil Institute (or whatever it's called) wants to sell their cheap, junk veggie oil. And the only way they can do that is to make people believe that whole, healthy fats are killers and their trashy product will make all healthy, wealthy and wise. They are in it for the money and they know the dangers of the products they push. I don't believe there is much, if any, real science behind the saturated fat is bad mantra. Look at the studies on the low-fat diet. Most are dismal failures. But because they lower cholesterol the tiniest bit they are declared absolute successes. Judith Alta -----Original Message----- >Based on that article, it sounds that Heimowitz is just compromising to the >medical establishment so more doctors will accept the diet. It may be based >more on business than science. Atkins is dead so he obviously isn't around >to give his opinion on this. From everything I have read of his, this is >not consistent with his views but not exactly inconsistent either. His >contention was that high cholesterol was a function of too many saturated >fats combined with too many carbohydrates. I would tend to agree ... though I'd also like to know more about the actual statistical connections that lead them to believe Sat. fat is so bad. I tend to agree with the earlier post that a lot of it has to do with milk and meat as they exist in this country ... so MANY people seem to have strange problems with milk, that have to do with casein intolerance or hormones, and the fats in the animals we are growing might well be pretty toxic. Which reminds me: did anyone catch the NPR special about breast milk in the Inuit the other day? A researcher was looking for PCB in breast milk in industrialized countries, and used some Inuit women as controls, because they live in one of the least polluted lands. He was shocked to find REALLY toxic levels of PCB's and other contaminants in Inuit milk ... because they eat a lot of seal fat, and seals are at the top of the food chain. The researcher was saying that at this high level, the contaminants were no doubt producing kids with lower IQ's, developmental problems, congenital defects. They want to start importing food to the Inuit with lower PCBs. Now THAT is sad. So in that case, there IS an actual causal connection between eating " fat " and problems ... if you were just looking at the statistics, and not looking for the underlying causes. If there is a statistical connection between beef fat, milk, and disease in America, then I'd expect the researchers at this point to chalk it up to " saturated fat " (because those are the sources of sat. fat in our culture) and we'll be hearing more and more of this. And, us fat-lovers will need to find ways to make it easier to get beef (and milk) from good sources. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 From: Heidi Schuppenhauer <<Which reminds me: did anyone catch the NPR special about breast milk in the Inuit the other day?>> ~~~ here's a link to 'Ancestral Diet Gone Toxic'... an LA Times article [Jan.13] about the subject. -- The Arctic's Inuit are being contaminated by pollution borne north by winds and concentrated as it travels up the food chain. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-me-inuit13jan13,1,570626.story?\ coll=la-home-headlines Dedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 A long radio commercial for Morning Star " low-carb " soy crap the other day when I was at the gym ended: " ...Because noone ever said 'low-carb' has to be 'high-fat'. " Arrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 >From: Heidi Schuppenhauer <<Which reminds me: did anyone catch the NPR special about breast milk in the Inuit the other day?>> > > >~~~ here's a link to 'Ancestral Diet Gone Toxic'... an LA Times article [Jan.13] about the subject. > >-- The Arctic's Inuit are being contaminated by pollution borne north by winds and concentrated as it travels up the food chain. <http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-me-inuit13jan13,1,570626.story\ ?coll=la-home-headlines>http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-me-inui\ t13jan13,1,570626.story?coll=la-home-headlines > > >Dedy Good article! It really outlines the scope of the problem... the waters in the Arctic ARE cleaner than the ones lower down, but the fat from animals high up in the food chain concentrates the toxins (which are, as Wanita pointed out, carried up there by winds and tides). -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Have you ever read the ingredients on that stuff??? It takes up almost the entire box...I can't believe I used to eat that crap. Or suffer the gas. Ugh. michele >From: ChrisMasterjohn@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Atkins research: Interesting! >Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:55:55 EST > >A long radio commercial for Morning Star " low-carb " soy crap the other day >when I was at the gym ended: > > " ...Because noone ever said 'low-carb' has to be 'high-fat'. " > >Arrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhh!!!!!!! > >Chris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 >> Seems like " the company " is changing tacks. << Yeah, scumbags. This has been all over the Atkins lists. I swear, I feel like just giving up sometimes. On the other hand, considering the quality of the beef and eggs most of those people are eating, maybe it's better they eat less. Not that the fish and chicken they eat is any better. Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Christie- Factory-farmed animal products are still, by and large, far better than no factory-farmed animal products. >On the other hand, considering the quality of the beef and eggs most of >those people are eating, maybe it's better they eat less. Not that the >fish and chicken they eat is any better. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 I guess the folks at Atkins didn't much like that article either, LOL.... This is their official statement in response to the NY Times article: Atkins Has Not Changed " Make That Steak a Bit Smaller, Atkins Advises Today's Dieters, " published in the January 18th edition of The New York Times--and the subsequent publicity--is yet another dramatically inappropriate example of the media reporting on the media and perpetuating a false report on Atkins. This is a great disservice to the millions upon millions of Atkins followers who have been benefiting from this nutritional approach for more than 30 years. The accusation in the media, which claims that Atkins is retreating from its long-held position on the consumption of fat is simply wrong. It is a false premise created by members of the media themselves, based on input from " experts " who apparently have neither read any of Dr. Atkins' books, nor even casually browsed this Web site. Atkins has not changed. The basic tenets of the Atkins Nutritional ApproachT (ANA), consistent since 1972, are to control the intake of carbohydrates, avoid refined carbs (like sugar and white flour), eat a balance of fats (including saturated fat but not trans fats) and consume a variety of protein sources, such as red meat, fish, poultry and tofu. Saturated fat remains a valuable part of the ANA. There is absolutely no scientific research to support any claims that eating red meat and saturated fat as part of your Atkins program is anything other then beneficial. These protocols have been consistently reinforced as safe, effective and beneficial and have been further supported by 17 studies released over the last three years. Equally as important, and terribly troubling to all of us at Atkins, is the attempt once again by critics of Atkins to ignore fact, science and the clear messages stated in Dr. Atkins' own words over the past 32 years, in order to sensationalize the ANA as the " all-the-steak-you-can-eat " approach to weight loss and good health. This has never been true and the millions of individuals doing Atkins, along with the health care professionals who have read Dr. Atkins' books, clearly understand this. We would urge anyone who is confused, including the media to simply read Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, Atkins For Life or The Atkins Essentials, or review this site, rather than interpret Atkins on the basis of sensational reports manufactured on hearsay and mischaracterization. Even in the original 1972 edition of Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution, Dr. Atkins explained, " fat allows for enormous variety in your diet; that vital and best of all, it keeps you from feeling deprived. Of course, you aren't confined to steak, you can have almost any kind of meat, fish or fowl. " He continued, " One of the biggest reasons this diet works so successfully is because you eat protein and fat.. " Dr. Atkins made no secret of the fact that his methodology evolved over time as scientific discoveries added new and useful information. He rewrote his original 1972 book three times, exactly because he felt it was his responsibility to keep people up to date when it came to the most recent and relevant information on controlled carbohydrate nutrition and health. In the 2002 edition of Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, he wrote, " Eat either three regular-size meals a day or four to five smaller meals. Eat liberally of combinations of fat and protein in the form of poultry, fish, shellfish, eggs and red meat, as well as of pure, natural fat in the form of butter, mayonnaise, olive oil, safflower, sunflower and other vegetable oils. Adjust the quantity you eat to suit your appetite, especially as it decreases. When hungry, eat the amount that makes your feel satisfied but not stuffed.. " By providing individuals doing Atkins with a life-long strategy, including exercise and meal plans (at various carb thresholds) incorporating a wide range of foods, as explained in Atkins for Life, Dr. Atkins believed he would finally put to rest the misconception that his approach was based on eating only red meat. His simple goal was that people would come to understand how to incorporate his controlled carbohydrate nutritional approach as the first step in gaining control of their nutritionally out-of-control lives. Millions of individuals who benefit from doing Atkins understand that the ANA is a very effective four-phase approach to healthy eating. The ANA focuses on moving people away from diets loaded with refined carbohydrates like sugar and white flour to a lifestyle centered around eating whole foods and nutrient-dense carbohydrates like leafy greens, and finding a balance in the consumption of proteins and fat. Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Christie, Do you have the link to this article? I'd like to pass it around. Thanks, Judith Alta -----Original Message----- From: Christie [mailto:christiekeith@...] I guess the folks at Atkins didn't much like that article either, LOL.... This is their official statement in response to the NY Times article: Atkins Has Not Changed " Make That Steak a Bit Smaller, Atkins Advises Today's Dieters, " published in the January 18th edition of The New York Times--and the subsequent publicity--is yet another dramatically inappropriate example of the media reporting on the media and perpetuating a false report on Atkins. This is a great disservice to the millions upon millions of Atkins followers who have been benefiting from this nutritional approach for more than 30 years. The accusation in the media, which claims that Atkins is retreating from its long-held position on the consumption of fat is simply wrong. It is a false premise created by members of the media themselves, based on input from " experts " who apparently have neither read any of Dr. Atkins' books, nor even casually browsed this Web site. Atkins has not changed. The basic tenets of the Atkins Nutritional ApproachT (ANA), consistent since 1972, are to control the intake of carbohydrates, avoid refined carbs (like sugar and white flour), eat a balance of fats (including saturated fat but not trans fats) and consume a variety of protein sources, such as red meat, fish, poultry and tofu. Saturated fat remains a valuable part of the ANA. There is absolutely no scientific research to support any claims that eating red meat and saturated fat as part of your Atkins program is anything other then beneficial. These protocols have been consistently reinforced as safe, effective and beneficial and have been further supported by 17 studies released over the last three years. Equally as important, and terribly troubling to all of us at Atkins, is the attempt once again by critics of Atkins to ignore fact, science and the clear messages stated in Dr. Atkins' own words over the past 32 years, in order to sensationalize the ANA as the " all-the-steak-you-can-eat " approach to weight loss and good health. This has never been true and the millions of individuals doing Atkins, along with the health care professionals who have read Dr. Atkins' books, clearly understand this. We would urge anyone who is confused, including the media to simply read Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, Atkins For Life or The Atkins Essentials, or review this site, rather than interpret Atkins on the basis of sensational reports manufactured on hearsay and mischaracterization. Even in the original 1972 edition of Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution, Dr. Atkins explained, " fat allows for enormous variety in your diet; that vital and best of all, it keeps you from feeling deprived. Of course, you aren't confined to steak, you can have almost any kind of meat, fish or fowl. " He continued, " One of the biggest reasons this diet works so successfully is because you eat protein and fat.. " Dr. Atkins made no secret of the fact that his methodology evolved over time as scientific discoveries added new and useful information. He rewrote his original 1972 book three times, exactly because he felt it was his responsibility to keep people up to date when it came to the most recent and relevant information on controlled carbohydrate nutrition and health. In the 2002 edition of Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, he wrote, " Eat either three regular-size meals a day or four to five smaller meals. Eat liberally of combinations of fat and protein in the form of poultry, fish, shellfish, eggs and red meat, as well as of pure, natural fat in the form of butter, mayonnaise, olive oil, safflower, sunflower and other vegetable oils. Adjust the quantity you eat to suit your appetite, especially as it decreases. When hungry, eat the amount that makes your feel satisfied but not stuffed.. " By providing individuals doing Atkins with a life-long strategy, including exercise and meal plans (at various carb thresholds) incorporating a wide range of foods, as explained in Atkins for Life, Dr. Atkins believed he would finally put to rest the misconception that his approach was based on eating only red meat. His simple goal was that people would come to understand how to incorporate his controlled carbohydrate nutritional approach as the first step in gaining control of their nutritionally out-of-control lives. Millions of individuals who benefit from doing Atkins understand that the ANA is a very effective four-phase approach to healthy eating. The ANA focuses on moving people away from diets loaded with refined carbohydrates like sugar and white flour to a lifestyle centered around eating whole foods and nutrient-dense carbohydrates like leafy greens, and finding a balance in the consumption of proteins and fat. Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 This was just reported on the 5:00 news. Interesting thing is there was no one from Atkins there to confirm it. Usually this type of story, if true, has someone from the " company " interviewed. Judith Alta -----Original Message----- Anyone who is interested in Atkins should read this whole article. Seems like " the company " is changing tacks. -- Heidi http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/18/nyregion/18DIET.html After advising dieters for years to satisfy their hunger with liberal amounts of steak, eggs and other saturated fats, the promoters of the Atkins diet now say that people on their plan should limit the amount of red meat and saturated fat they eat. Responding to years of criticism from scientists that the Atkins version of a low-carbohydrate, high-fat regimen might lead to heart disease and other health problems, the director of research and education for Atkins Nutritionals, Colette Heimowitz, is telling health professionals in seminars around the country that only 20 percent of a dieter's calories should come from saturated fat. Atkins Nutritionals was set up by Dr. C. Atkins to sell Atkins products and promote the diet. ''' The change comes as Atkins faces competition from other popular low-carbohydrate diets that call for less saturated fat. A book on one such plan, the South Beach Diet, came out in April 2003 and has sold more than five million copies. Atkins representatives made the revision, Ms. Heimowitz said, because " we want physicians to feel comfortable with this diet, and we want people who are going to their physicians with this diet to feel comfortable. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 it's a pc free for all over there now that atkins is gone --- In , " Judith Alta " <jaltak@v...> wrote: > This was just reported on the 5:00 news. Interesting thing is there was no > one from Atkins there to confirm it. Usually this type of story, if true, > has someone from the " company " interviewed. > > Judith Alta > > -----Original Message----- > > Anyone who is interested in Atkins should read this whole article. Seems > like " the company " > is changing tacks. > > -- Heidi > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/18/nyregion/18DIET.html > > After advising dieters for years to satisfy their hunger with liberal > amounts of steak, eggs and other saturated fats, the promoters of the Atkins > diet now say that people on their plan should limit the amount of red meat > and saturated fat they eat. > > Responding to years of criticism from scientists that the Atkins version of > a low-carbohydrate, high-fat regimen might lead to heart disease and other > health problems, the director of research and education for Atkins > Nutritionals, Colette Heimowitz, is telling health professionals in seminars > around the country that only 20 percent of a dieter's calories should come > from saturated fat. Atkins Nutritionals was set up by Dr. C. Atkins > to sell Atkins products and promote the diet. > > ''' > > > The change comes as Atkins faces competition from other popular > low-carbohydrate diets that call for less saturated fat. A book on one such > plan, the South Beach Diet, came out in April 2003 and has sold more than > five million copies. Atkins representatives made the revision, Ms. Heimowitz > said, because " we want physicians to feel comfortable with this diet, and we > want people who are going to their physicians with this diet to feel > comfortable. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Did you read the rebuttal from Atkins Nutritionals that was posted to this list? My prophecy is coming true. The Establishment will put out all the fear mongering they can about low-carb eating. And because Atkins is best known that lifestyle will be at the top of the hit list. Judith Alta -----Original Message----- From: Joe [mailto:jzbozzi@...] it's a pc free for all over there now that atkins is gone --- In , " Judith Alta " <jaltak@v...> wrote: > This was just reported on the 5:00 news. Interesting thing is there was no > one from Atkins there to confirm it. Usually this type of story, if true, > has someone from the " company " interviewed. > > Judith Alta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 To those who may be interested. Here's a link to Atkins Nutritionals rebuttal. This is different than the article posted to the list. Mostly UK claptrap about eating lots of carbs. http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2427625 Judith Alta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Christie, Where did you find this article? I did a Google search and all I came up with was Atkins has changed. Judith Alta -----Original Message----- From: Christie [mailto:christiekeith@...] I guess the folks at Atkins didn't much like that article either, LOL.... This is their official statement in response to the NY Times article: Atkins Has Not Changed " Make That Steak a Bit Smaller, Atkins Advises Today's Dieters, " published in the January 18th edition of The New York Times--and the subsequent publicity--is yet another dramatically inappropriate example of the media reporting on the media and perpetuating a false report on Atkins. This is a great disservice to the millions upon millions of Atkins followers who have been benefiting from this nutritional approach for more than 30 years. The accusation in the media, which claims that Atkins is retreating from its long-held position on the consumption of fat is simply wrong. It is a false premise created by members of the media themselves, based on input from " experts " who apparently have neither read any of Dr. Atkins' books, nor even casually browsed this Web site. Atkins has not changed. The basic tenets of the Atkins Nutritional ApproachT (ANA), consistent since 1972, are to control the intake of carbohydrates, avoid refined carbs (like sugar and white flour), eat a balance of fats (including saturated fat but not trans fats) and consume a variety of protein sources, such as red meat, fish, poultry and tofu. Saturated fat remains a valuable part of the ANA. There is absolutely no scientific research to support any claims that eating red meat and saturated fat as part of your Atkins program is anything other then beneficial. These protocols have been consistently reinforced as safe, effective and beneficial and have been further supported by 17 studies released over the last three years. Equally as important, and terribly troubling to all of us at Atkins, is the attempt once again by critics of Atkins to ignore fact, science and the clear messages stated in Dr. Atkins' own words over the past 32 years, in order to sensationalize the ANA as the " all-the-steak-you-can-eat " approach to weight loss and good health. This has never been true and the millions of individuals doing Atkins, along with the health care professionals who have read Dr. Atkins' books, clearly understand this. We would urge anyone who is confused, including the media to simply read Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, Atkins For Life or The Atkins Essentials, or review this site, rather than interpret Atkins on the basis of sensational reports manufactured on hearsay and mischaracterization. Even in the original 1972 edition of Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution, Dr. Atkins explained, " fat allows for enormous variety in your diet; that vital and best of all, it keeps you from feeling deprived. Of course, you aren't confined to steak, you can have almost any kind of meat, fish or fowl. " He continued, " One of the biggest reasons this diet works so successfully is because you eat protein and fat.. " Dr. Atkins made no secret of the fact that his methodology evolved over time as scientific discoveries added new and useful information. He rewrote his original 1972 book three times, exactly because he felt it was his responsibility to keep people up to date when it came to the most recent and relevant information on controlled carbohydrate nutrition and health. In the 2002 edition of Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, he wrote, " Eat either three regular-size meals a day or four to five smaller meals. Eat liberally of combinations of fat and protein in the form of poultry, fish, shellfish, eggs and red meat, as well as of pure, natural fat in the form of butter, mayonnaise, olive oil, safflower, sunflower and other vegetable oils. Adjust the quantity you eat to suit your appetite, especially as it decreases. When hungry, eat the amount that makes your feel satisfied but not stuffed.. " By providing individuals doing Atkins with a life-long strategy, including exercise and meal plans (at various carb thresholds) incorporating a wide range of foods, as explained in Atkins for Life, Dr. Atkins believed he would finally put to rest the misconception that his approach was based on eating only red meat. His simple goal was that people would come to understand how to incorporate his controlled carbohydrate nutritional approach as the first step in gaining control of their nutritionally out-of-control lives. Millions of individuals who benefit from doing Atkins understand that the ANA is a very effective four-phase approach to healthy eating. The ANA focuses on moving people away from diets loaded with refined carbohydrates like sugar and white flour to a lifestyle centered around eating whole foods and nutrient-dense carbohydrates like leafy greens, and finding a balance in the consumption of proteins and fat. Christie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 I found it! http://atkins.com/about/recentnews/AtkinsHasNotChanged.html Judith Alta -----Original Message----- Christie, Where did you find this article? I did a Google search and all I came up with was Atkins has changed. Judith Alta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 --- In , " Judith Alta " <jaltak@v...> wrote: > Did you read the rebuttal from Atkins Nutritionals that was posted to this > list? > > My prophecy is coming true. The Establishment will put out all the fear > mongering they can about low-carb eating. And because Atkins is best known > that lifestyle will be at the top of the hit list. > > Judith Alta > Thanks, I see now. I don't worry much about it, it's only a matter of time before the house of cards falls. The fact that they attack more means that the end is getting closer. -joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Right you are. And they will fight to the death to protect their profits and the poisons that generate them. Judith Alta -----Original Message----- From: Joe [mailto:jzbozzi@...] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 8:56 PM --- In , " Judith Alta " <jaltak@v...> wrote: > Did you read the rebuttal from Atkins Nutritionals that was posted to this > list? > > My prophecy is coming true. The Establishment will put out all the fear > mongering they can about low-carb eating. And because Atkins is best known > that lifestyle will be at the top of the hit list. > > Judith Alta > Thanks, I see now. I don't worry much about it, it's only a matter of time before the house of cards falls. The fact that they attack more means that the end is getting closer. -joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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