RE: white wine in alot of sallies soup recipies

[Guest guest]

White wine doesn't HAVE to have sulfites added to it, at least not as

much as red wine. So in that regard, white wine is a bit cleaner. Can

you find an organic wine? Those often have even less sulfites or none at

all. I have made my own wine, and decided to use sulfites to make the

process easier and less 'chancy'. They're not that bad really. Now if

they use other preservatives, that's questionable. I don't know of any

alternatives to white wine, except maybe white grape juice or something

like that. (never tired cuz it's much sugarier) Vinegar is NOT going to

taste anywhere near the same, and it's not made with grapes so it's not

going to impart similar flavor. You could skip the wine and use chicken

broth if it's not already called for, or just leave it out altogether.

For deglazing a pan, chicken broth works. For soaking a roast, it won't.

white wine in alot of sallies soup recipies

Is there an alternative to white wine. Crap white wine here iw full of

preservative 220 ect ect

Can I use apple cider viniger instead?

[Guest guest]

Thanks lisa,

I do know where I can get some organic wine. I might question them on the

sulphate content.

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From: Bujak [mailto:lisabujak@...]

Sent: Monday, 19 January 2004 11:47 PM

Subject: RE: white wine in alot of sallies soup recipies

White wine doesn't HAVE to have sulfites added to it, at least not as

much as red wine. So in that regard, white wine is a bit cleaner. Can

you find an organic wine? Those often have even less sulfites or none at

all. I have made my own wine, and decided to use sulfites to make the

process easier and less 'chancy'. They're not that bad really. Now if

they use other preservatives, that's questionable. I don't know of any

alternatives to white wine, except maybe white grape juice or something

like that. (never tired cuz it's much sugarier) Vinegar is NOT going to

taste anywhere near the same, and it's not made with grapes so it's not

going to impart similar flavor. You could skip the wine and use chicken

broth if it's not already called for, or just leave it out altogether.

For deglazing a pan, chicken broth works. For soaking a roast, it won't.

white wine in alot of sallies soup recipies

Is there an alternative to white wine. Crap white wine here iw full of

preservative 220 ect ect

Can I use apple cider viniger instead?

[Guest guest]

I am glad to see someone else pose this question, although I am interested

in it for different reasons perhaps...

We use white wine vinegar and balsamic vinegar for the soup recipes, in

stews, and elsewhere with little negative effect. I have even used some

" off " (close to vinegar) kombucha beverage. All seem to have the same

effect, and work well. The wine vinegars we buy are from the health food

store and say on the labels that during producting there is a natural

occurence of sulfites (whatever that means), that they do not add additional

sulfites.

I have never priced this out, but I believe that organic/natural wine

vinegars will be much cheaper than organic wine--it gives a " wine-ish " taste

and seems to work for our purposes. In a pinch (tranlsation: we ran out of

wine vinegar), I have also used apple cider vinegar with no ill effect to

taste.

I don't think the recipes are so decidedly fragile that missing an

ingredient here or there is going to ruin something--if these recipes are

meant to be true to the spirit of our ancestral diet then I think some

substitutions are to be expected in fact!

Cheers, Leann

[Guest guest]

Well I made some enquiry and even the white wines organic are laden with

good ol preservative 220.

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From: & Leann Rolph [mailto:happygardeners@...]

Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2004 10:31 AM

Subject: RE: white wine in alot of sallies soup recipies

I am glad to see someone else pose this question, although I am interested

in it for different reasons perhaps...

We use white wine vinegar and balsamic vinegar for the soup recipes, in

stews, and elsewhere with little negative effect. I have even used some

" off " (close to vinegar) kombucha beverage. All seem to have the same

effect, and work well. The wine vinegars we buy are from the health food

store and say on the labels that during producting there is a natural

occurence of sulfites (whatever that means), that they do not add additional

sulfites.

I have never priced this out, but I believe that organic/natural wine

vinegars will be much cheaper than organic wine--it gives a " wine-ish " taste

and seems to work for our purposes. In a pinch (tranlsation: we ran out of

wine vinegar), I have also used apple cider vinegar with no ill effect to

taste.

I don't think the recipes are so decidedly fragile that missing an

ingredient here or there is going to ruin something--if these recipes are

meant to be true to the spirit of our ancestral diet then I think some

substitutions are to be expected in fact!

Cheers, Leann

[Guest guest]

" Well I made some enquiry and even the white wines organic are laden with

good ol preservative 220. "

At this point I will ask you to substantiate your claims because neither of

my organic wine vinegars lists a single preservative. I'm not very

knowledgeable about the ins and outs of brewing, nor do I want to be. The

included link, I believe provides at least one example that it is possible

to produce organic wines that are " organic " beyond the soil they are grown

in.

http://www.freywine.com/freywine/index.html

As for what preservative 220 is, I don't know. If folks are really worried

about preservatives in wine then I would think cider vinegar as well as

kombucha beverage, indeed any fruit juice you " let go " will fit the bill.

Cheers, Leann

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:44:02 -0800

" & Leann Rolph " <happygardeners@...> wrote:

> " Well I made some enquiry and even the white wines organic are laden with

>good ol preservative 220. "

>

>At this point I will ask you to substantiate your claims because neither of

>my organic wine vinegars lists a single preservative. I'm not very

>knowledgeable about the ins and outs of brewing, nor do I want to be. The

>included link, I believe provides at least one example that it is possible

>to produce organic wines that are " organic " beyond the soil they are grown

>in.

>http://www.freywine.com/freywine/index.html

>

>As for what preservative 220 is, I don't know. If folks are really worried

>about preservatives in wine then I would think cider vinegar as well as

>kombucha beverage, indeed any fruit juice you " let go " will fit the bill.

>

>Cheers, Leann

A number of things can go into wine that are not required to be listed

on the label. The better wine producers tend to eschew such things,

especially the French, but nonetheless the label does not necessarily tell

the whole story.

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