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Dear Moderator(not heavy handed) You are right. I apologize for any hurt

feelings or for my

misunderstandings. We will not resolve this problem on the list.

Toni

cloudhand@... wrote:

> We're starting to lose equilibrium here.

>

> I thnk, please, if you really need to take your mutual incomprehension much

> further, that I should prefer it if you were to continue ex foro.

>

> We are starting to become abusive and enflamed, and to attack ad hominem

> (which, I might point out, is not how this thing actually started out -

gently,

> perhaps, but certainly far from either disrespectful or unconcerned). That, in

> itself, is none of my business, but the harmonious continuation of this list

is.

>

> Problems of racial and religious intolerance have dogged us ever since the

> first of us laid claim to the land that surrounded him or her and swore his

> gods into it. We are not going to sort these problems out here - The great

> beings of the past have never managed this, and some of them really were

> very great indeed. I don't think we're going to achieve much more here except

> an excalation of hurt and anger if we continue with it, so - in the face of

the

> threat of ever-mounting immoderateness - can we drop this thread please?

>

> Thank you all of you who have participated so far. It's time for a break for

> reflection I think.

>

> your heavy-handed moderator

>

> 'To study the Way is to study the self.

> To study the self is to forget the self.

> To forget the self is to be enlightened by all things.

> To be enlightened by all things is to remove all barrier between oneself and

others.'

>

> Dogen Zenji from 'The Genjo Koan - The Manifestation of the Koan' in his

classic Shobo-genzo.

>

>

>

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