Swimming, Cardio & Children

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I think the responses to my post were taking my point too far. Let

me restate:

1. To get leaner, there are obviously many approaches. The one

which makes the most sense in my opinion is to create an anabloic

response while addressing nutritional issues. I cited the lecture

where children were a subject as a way of putting things in layman's

terms. I don't know of any research substantiating this claim;

however, I think that's the charm of it. It makes it simple. I

think someone earlier quoted Mel Siff in his " MAD " diet plan or

something like that where one just tweaks things until they get it

right. That to me is an attempt to move away from being overly

scientific and towards common sense. That was my goal as well.

Yes it is true that there are obese kids, unfortunately. It seems

though that this is symptomatic of much bigger issues. Wouldn't that

make sense? The thing I was trying to say is, look at most kids,

they're lean and they don't do cardio. They have high levels of

daily activity and they've got an abundance of anabolic hormones in

their body. Maybe one way to get leaner is to try to mimic this.

That's all.

2. The swimming study: my point was that regardless of the fact

that the arms do basically the same motion in a Lat Pull-down and a

Pull-up, these two are different exercises and a Lat Pull-down should

not be used as a progression. In one exercise the Insertion is

moving away from the origin and the other, the origin is moving away

from the insertion (both in the eccentric phase). This is similar to

the tail wagging the dog, isn't it? To those who dispute this, are

you claiming the the CNS cannot tell the difference? I am not

claiming that the Lat Pull-down is a bad exercise or that it's not

useful or anything like that, I am only saying that if one is trying

to improve pull-up performance, he should do pull-up variations

rather than lat pull-downs. Simple.

I cited the swimming study because in a swim stroke, the swimmer is

moving through the water (origin is moving towards insertion), not

remaining idle while pushing water away (insertion moves from

origin). Is this not correct? I suppose it is incorrect if the

swimmer's stroke is inefficient in which case all bets are off.

How about a luge athlete? If the coach is trying to improve start

times, would he use wide grip pull-ups or wide grip lat pull-downs?

The pull-ups, right? The pull-up has a functional carry-over while

the lat pull-down does not.

I am sorry if I offended anyone with the " worth their weight in salt "

comment.

Cowell

Raleigh, NC