Re: hypertonia and bowel issues

[Guest guest]

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how does Shanes hypertonia present itself??? Does he have any other

disability besides autism, such as CP, sorry to ask but it might be

important to know.

Maybe the general pead will be able to refer you to a gastro, the nhs

do like to do things in a long-winded way!!!

Nikki x

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> hi everyone

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> i am still fighting with gp for a gastro referal they are now

saying all

> shane's gut issues are due to his hypertonia and are referring him

to a general

> paed i am looking for research that either proves or disproves

their theory

> the gut issues are reflux, alternating diaerroea and constipation,

sereve pain

> and maldigestion

>

> can anyone point me in the right direction

>

> melissaxx

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[Guest guest]

Also did the GP say how the hypertonia was causing all those

symptoms, i think that is something i would like to ask him/her, and

see what answers you get.

Nikki

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " Nikki " <nikki-

mills@...> wrote:

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> how does Shanes hypertonia present itself??? Does he have any other

> disability besides autism, such as CP, sorry to ask but it might be

> important to know.

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> Maybe the general pead will be able to refer you to a gastro, the

nhs

> do like to do things in a long-winded way!!!

>

> Nikki x

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> >

> > hi everyone

> >

> > i am still fighting with gp for a gastro referal they are now

> saying all

> > shane's gut issues are due to his hypertonia and are referring

him

> to a general

> > paed i am looking for research that either proves or disproves

> their theory

> > the gut issues are reflux, alternating diaerroea and

constipation,

> sereve pain

> > and maldigestion

> >

> > can anyone point me in the right direction

> >

> > melissaxx

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>

[Guest guest]

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I'm far from expert in this, but I believe that the muscles of our

intestinal system are smooth muscles that we do not control, much

different from the kinds of muscles in our legs, for example, that

could by hypotonic (I think we mean hypo, not hyper here?).

When reading about constipation, it seesm to me that I read that

peristaltic action is impacted by much different stuff than other

muscle action.

Have you looked at the constipation file? That might give you some

other ideas to pursue. For us, serotonin seems to have played an

important role. Somehow I think HBOT increases it (perhaps by

reducing inflammation???). I say this because HBOT causes my son to

sleep almost normally and poop almost normally. There are other

things we have done as well (addressing lectins, enzymes, boosting

stomach acid, etc). But the HBOT makes it possible for him to have bm

in a reasonable amount of time, rather than taking 45 or more minutes

to actually push it out.

Anita

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> no i think the gp was grasping at straws really she just said as

hypertonia

> is a muscle weakness condition and affects the bowel to my

understanding only

> anal hypertonia can cause bowel issues, but its not been said this is

present

> in shane , i think if the paed can avoid treating

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[Guest guest]

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cp= cerebal palsy, i was doing a google search to see if i could find

anything for you and this kept cropping up in reference to hypertonia

and also, all i could come up with was the anal hypertonia that you

know about anyway! Now if your child has this would it not need to be

diagnosed by a gastro surely???

Is shane constipated, this can cause problems at the other end such

as reflux?

Nikki

In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , melissaeasthope@...

wrote:

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> no i think the gp was grasping at straws really she just said as

hypertonia

> is a muscle weakness condition and affects the bowel to my

understanding only

> anal hypertonia can cause bowel issues, but its not been said this

is

present

> in shane , i think if the paed can avoid treating

>

[Guest guest]

thanks jo thing is shane won't tolerant vit d past 80iu a day so we never successfully got it in, more to look at though

melissaxx

[Guest guest]

Hi

I believe Hypotonia is a vitamin D issue

Read this.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?

id=13gjoA1Hv7UC & pg=PA275 & dq=vitamin+D+and+hypotonia & sig=ACfU3U0yh0Vnr3

tsKHja86Es_CVIH8LyVA

Darryls got hypotonia and the Vitamin D receptor SNP.

If you have Vit D SNP you are more likely to put lead into the bones

instead of calcium.

Lead toxicity can cause bowel problems.

1: Indian J Med Res. 2007 Dec;126(6):518-27.

Related Articles, Links

Lead hepatotoxicity & potential health effects.

Mudipalli A.

National Center for Environmental Assessment, Office of Research &

Development, U.S. EPA, North Carolina 27709, USA.

Mudipalli.anu@...

Occupational and environmental exposures to lead (Pb), one of the

toxic metal pollutants, is of global concern. Health risks are

increasingly associated with environmental exposures to Pb emissions

from, for example, the widespread use of leaded gasoline in

developing countries. Exposure occurs mainly through the respiratory

and gastrointestinal systems, and the ingested and absorbed Pb is

stored primarily in soft tissues and bone. Autopsy studies of Pb-

exposed patients have shown a large amount (approximately 33%) of the

absorbed Pb in soft tissue stored in liver. In addition to neuronal

encephalopathy observed in persons after exposure to very high

concentrations of Pb, gastrointestinal colic (abdominal pain,

constipation, intestinal paralysis) is a consistent early symptom of

Pb poisoning in humans. Such severe gastrointestinal effects are

consistently observed in patients with a blood Pb range of 30 to 80

microg/dl. Ingestion of Pb is one of the primary causes of its

hepatotoxic effects. Hepatocarcinogenic effects of Pb reported in

animal toxicology studies have led to new research into the

biochemical and molecular aspects of Pb toxicology. Gains in the

molecular understanding of Pb effects on hepatic drug metabolizing

enzymes, cholesterol metabolism, oxidative stress, and hepatic

hyperplasia suggest a potential role for Pb in damaging extrahepatic

systems, including the cardiovascular system. This review also

discusses the therapeutic potential of chelation therapy in treating

Pb-induced hepatotoxicity in animals.

Publication Types:

Review

PMID: 18219078 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

I would say you need to work towards getting vitamin D in and

chelating the lead out.

Combination of supps inc Vit D , K2 etc..

NHS will think you are mad for suggesting it though.

Will try and test for lead in the blood, wont find it there cos its

in the bones and discharge you.

Joanne

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> hi everyone

>

> i am still fighting with gp for a gastro referal they are now

saying all

> shane's gut issues are due to his hypertonia and are referring him

to a general

> paed i am looking for research that either proves or disproves

their theory

> the gut issues are reflux, alternating diaerroea and constipation,

sereve pain

> and maldigestion

>

> can anyone point me in the right direction

>

> melissaxx

>