Guest guest Posted August 23, 2000 Report Share Posted August 23, 2000 Hi Bonnie! I have nothing against holistic medicine at all - on the contrary - I just dislike the either/or approach. A lot of cancer patients, in particular, benefit from a combination of holistic and conventional medicine. Plus, I find a lot of doctors more open these days. It's interesting that you brought up typology - as I think that we are basically agreeing, but placing a slightly different emphasis on things according to type. I'm an Extraverted Thinker - so my first thought will automatically be, if there's something growing in my body which shouldn't be, I want it cut out as soon and as cleanly as possible. At that stage I'd probably thump someone who wanted to " waste time " discussing how I felt about it! Afterwards, though, if there were a realistic natural alternative to drug treatment, yes, I would go for it every time. Regards, fa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2000 Report Share Posted August 23, 2000 But perhaps not while you are the hospital with third degree burns? At that point, I imagine less pain, less suffering, compassion, love might more likely be what you need and want. When you have recovered and not spending all your energy in fighting pain, and can think clearly, then you can figure out what started it. From experience, I can assure you there are times when it takes everything you are just to survive the onslaught of pain. Even prayer is hard at that point, but can be managed, or holding a holy relic. I'm not sure how thinking holistically can make this different. When rehab starts, then its time to think clearly. I think we are talking on two different plains, but the discussion started as I mentioned, about people coming, in public for healing prayer. Toni Toni Bonnie Calcagno wrote: > Hi fa, > I think I'm a die-hard introverted intuitive. I just don't think we > can divorce the facts out there with what is in here. I don't view things > as purely physical. I think I like to approach everything holistically. > When your house is burning you first put out the fire, but then I think you > have to ask yourself what started it. > > Regards, > Bonnie > > http://www.careerselfanalysis.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2000 Report Share Posted August 23, 2000 Agreed, Strong feelings automatically make me wonder where they came from. In my case I can think of a number of complexes I still have to work on. But, originally we were not talking about psychic pain, but the physical illness that may have been caused by them. Even an introverted intuitive would not relish being told by a layman in public, the mental problems that may/may not have caused this illness. Nor would I have said to someone whom I never saw before, or knew slightly, who had come for comfort and prayer, " You need to see a therapist " If I were at the hospital or someone's bedside, I would hold their hand and love them, not suggest a psychoanalyst. Nor would I give a professional or worse, a layman's , diagnosis in those circumstances. Acceptance, not diagnosis is what someone ill needs at that point. Imagine what guilt and other psychic harm that would do! As an aside: When i was leaving the hospital one time in great pain, the diagnosis not yet final, the chaplain, a nun I greatly admired, disclosed that she understood what I was going through because she too had great pain from an incurable condition. Then she told me, I could learn to live with it. That's when she lost me. It was not my idea of the " will of God " , and I had no intention of spending the rest of my life in this condition. I was overawed bu her courage, and knew i didn't have it.In other words I would not accept this " cross " I knew I would not give up finding a doctor and a cure. I will not live in this pain! I answered. I don't believe it is my duty to accept it. Anyway, to make a long story short, in " the perils of ine or at least in Toni's), A doctor called me , whom I did not know, and said he was taking over my doctor's patients while (my doctor) went skiing. Anyway, he had looked at my X-ray and found the problem. Furthermore he had just come back from a symposium where he learned a new technique, an I would be his 4th patient in this new surgery. He added his own wife had gone through what I had., and been cured. I went for it, and the so-called lifelong suffering was over within three weeks. Miracle? who knows, but I went to a medical doctor with that one ,not to a psychiatrist did not delve into my unconscious to figure out how I had caused this to myself.I just thanked the Lord for the cure. There needs to be discernment, discretion and responsibility when we deal with the pain of others.And even our own. No one answer will do, but I guarantee you there are times when love is the best medicine Toni Bonnie Calcagno wrote: > Hi Toni, > I think whenever we have strong feelings about something that's a good > place to start self-analysis. Is projection involved? Is there something > in me that I could work on or develop? This is how introverted intuitives > have fun. > > Best, > Bonnie > > http://www.careerselfanalysis.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2000 Report Share Posted August 24, 2000 > [Original Message] > > To: <JUNG-FIREegroups> > Date: 8/23/00 8:38:43 PM > Subject: Re: Sickness > > > Hi Bonnie! > > I have nothing against holistic medicine at all - on the contrary - I just > dislike the either/or approach. A lot of cancer patients, in particular, > benefit from a combination of holistic and conventional medicine. Plus, I > find a lot of doctors more open these days. > > It's interesting that you brought up typology - as I think that we are > basically agreeing, but placing a slightly different emphasis on things > according to type. I'm an Extraverted Thinker - so my first thought will > automatically be, if there's something growing in my body which shouldn't > be, I want it cut out as soon and as cleanly as possible. At that stage I'd > probably thump someone who wanted to " waste time " discussing how I felt > about it! Afterwards, though, if there were a realistic natural alternative > to drug treatment, yes, I would go for it every time. > > Regards, fa > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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