Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Sharon: The AAAI paper reminded of something else: A Mayo Clinic paper that Dr. Lipsey liked to cite in support of his hypotheses: Braun, et al: Eosinophilic Fungal Rhinosinusitis, A Common Disorder in Europe?, Laryngoscope, 113, 264-269, 2003. Conclusions: 1. " Based on our culture results, we conclude that nearly everybody has fungi in his or her nose. " Q: Duhhhhhhh - So what is the value?? 2. " Our data show that one of the postulated criteria of AFS (positive detection of fungi on histological examination or culture) is present in 91.3% of our patients with chronic rhinosinusitis (CRS). " In the article, if you do the math, you see that it occurs in exactly 91.3% of the " healthy control subjects " . There is NO difference between 'affected' and controls. 3. They talk about the number of cultures in the CRS group (290) versus the control group (71) [range of genera the same 1-9]. But the group sizes are different n=21 pos in controls v n=84 pos in CRS - so the rates are CRS = 3.45 cultures per person vs controls at 3.38 cultures per person. There are NO real, let alone statistically significant, differences in the amounts of fungus in the noses between both groups. POINT: When the uncertainty surrounding an issue is great - looks at the details to ascertain weight of evidence. Note: There were other merits to the paper. Tony ....................................................................... " Tony " Havics, CHMM, CIH, PE pH2, LLC 5250 E US 36, Suite 830 Avon, IN 46123 www.ph2llc.com off fax cell 90% of Risk Management is knowing where to place the decimal point...any consultant can give you the other 10%(SM) This message is from pH2. This message and any attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information, and are intended only for the individual or entity identified above as the addressee. If you are not the addressee, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, you are not authorized to read, copy, or distribute this message and any attachments, and we ask that you please delete this message and attachments (including all copies) and notify the sender by return e-mail or by phone at . Delivery of this message and any attachments to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive confidentiality or a privilege. All personal messages express views only of the sender, which are not to be attributed to pH2 and may not be copied or distributed without this statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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