Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Tony, Excellent Question! You write: QUESTION: Can you show me a single study that scientifically demonstratesthat indoor mycotoxins in typical indoor environment* are causing adversehealth affects other than allergy?* Hospitals are not typical, nor are farming environments, swine houses,sewage facilities, etc.Tony Answer: No. Nor do I believe that mycotoxins within a typical indoor environment are causing adverse health effects including allergy. Why? Because water damaged structures are not typical indoor environments. They are contained, closed in areas where people with varying immune systems and varying susceptibilities breathe, eat and touch the various toxins, including myco, that are present in the WDB for varying periods of time and in varying quantities. These are atypical (meaning not typical) environments in which people from all across the USA are complaining of symptoms indicative of poisoning after their atypical exposures to these poisons in these atypical environments. And...I am not aware that mycotoxins cause allergy. Question for you: Can you show me a single study that scientifically demonstratesindoor microbial toxins in an atypical, water damaged indoor environment* are not causing adverse human health affects indicative of poisoning? (it has to be actual research, not a bogus, litigation defense friendly, position paper) SharonCreate a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Sharon: Regarding: " No!! I am not going to presume anything. That's where we seem to get into trouble. Too many presumptions. The study was not about location. If you have a study that is about location, then it would be in the study. Wasn't in there. It's not about location. And it is not " evidence based " science to make presumptions based on something that is not part of the equation. It plays right into the influential ignorance, making conclusions on partial data. No!! I don't want to play anymore on this one. " OK. Then let me then ask the " evidence based " Question (to change the subject a bit): QUESTION: Can you show me a single study that scientifically demonstrates that indoor mycotoxins in typical indoor environment* are causing adverse health affects other than allergy? * Hospitals are not typical, nor are farming environments, swine houses, sewage facilities, etc. Tony ....................................................................... " Tony " Havics, CHMM, CIH, PE pH2, LLC 5250 E US 36, Suite 830 Avon, IN 46123 www.ph2llc.com off fax cell 90% of Risk Management is knowing where to place the decimal point...any consultant can give you the other 10%(SM) This message is from pH2. This message and any attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information, and are intended only for the individual or entity identified above as the addressee. If you are not the addressee, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, you are not authorized to read, copy, or distribute this message and any attachments, and we ask that you please delete this message and attachments (including all copies) and notify the sender by return e-mail or by phone at . Delivery of this message and any attachments to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive confidentiality or a privilege. All personal messages express views only of the sender, which are not to be attributed to pH2 and may not be copied or distributed without this statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Jeff, I am just happy to see that it speaks to the question rather than take the stance that it is scientifically proven not possible as has been widely promoted within the medical community. Sharon Tony and Sharon,This reference speaks to the question but does not answer it:Ochratoxin - Is It A Concern As An Airborne Mycotoxin?(by Romer Labs, Inc.)http://www.engormix.com/ochratoxin_is_it_a_e_articles_13_MYC.htm C. MayMay Indoor Air Investigationswww.mayindoorair.comwww.myhouseiskillingme.comthen ask the "evidence based" Question (to change the subject a> bit):>> QUESTION: Can you show me a single study that scientifically demonstrates> that indoor mycotoxins in typical indoor environment* are causing adverse> health affects other than allergy?>>> * Hospitals are not typical, nor are farming environments, swine houses,> sewage facilities, etc.>>> Tony> Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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