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I found the number I was looking for. It's in this link, Lang and Stoller,

figure 1. They say Pa O 2 under 500 is hps. Mine was 279. Pa O2 is the ABG with

100%oxygen for 20 minutes. Normal is above 500. The way they write it is 500<

normal

>500 abnormal.

Needing some resources

Good morning everyone,

It is time to ask for some help so I am posting on a couple of boards

to see if I can find the answers, this is something I don't see a lot

of on these boards, yet it has a lot to do with the problems caused by

varices. Everyone is always so helpful, sending links, encouragement

and support.

So here is my dilemna: yesterday I had a completely different kind of

test done due to the fact that I am becoming so shoort of breathe

walking from the parking lot to the door leaves me out of breathe. I

had a Blood oxygen test done....one with room air and one at 100%

oxygen. The results printed out on a little like receipt size piece of

paper with a ton of numbers that I do not understand.

Does anyone know of a link that can explain this test and the results?

Thanks for your help,

Judy

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thanks Bob,

Unfortunately, I am confused. The letters that you are using are

similar yet different than what is printed on these results. Here is

what mine says:

This is the 21% Room air printout:

ACID/BASE 37.0 *C

pH 7.469 (arrow up)

pC02(little 2) 32.9 mmHG

p02 (little 2) 103.2 (arrow up) mmHg

HC03(little 3) - act 23.4 mmo 1/L

BE ( 0.3 mmo 1/L

CO-OXIMETRY

tHb 13.2 g/dL

s02(little 2) 98.3 %

F02(little 2)Hb 95.0 %

FC0Hb 3.3 (arrow up) %

FMetHb 0.1 %

FHHb 1.6 %

OXYGEN STATUS 37.0 *C

ct02(little 2) (a) 17.8 mL/dL

Then it just goes on to give ranges.

If I have just confused you as much as I am.......I apologize.

If you can make heads or tails of this, it really is appreciated.

Thanks.

Judy

>

> I found the number I was looking for. It's in this link, Lang and

Stoller, figure 1. They say Pa O 2 under 500 is hps. Mine was 279. Pa

O2 is the ABG with 100%oxygen for 20 minutes. Normal is above 500.

The way they write it is 500< normal

> >500 abnormal.

>

> Needing some resources

>

>

>

> Good morning everyone,

>

>

>

> It is time to ask for some help so I am posting on a couple of

boards

>

>

>

> to see if I can find the answers, this is something I don't see a

lot

>

>

>

> of on these boards, yet it has a lot to do with the problems caused

by

>

>

>

> varices. Everyone is always so helpful, sending links, encouragement

>

>

>

> and support.

>

>

>

> So here is my dilemna: yesterday I had a completely different kind

of

>

>

>

> test done due to the fact that I am becoming so shoort of breathe

>

>

>

> walking from the parking lot to the door leaves me out of breathe. I

>

>

>

> had a Blood oxygen test done....one with room air and one at 100%

>

>

>

> oxygen. The results printed out on a little like receipt size piece

of

>

>

>

> paper with a ton of numbers that I do not understand.

>

>

>

> Does anyone know of a link that can explain this test and the

results?

>

>

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

>

>

> Judy

>

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The 100% oxygen for 20 minutes test is what gives the doctor the preliminary

info for this diagnosis. The normal po2 is going to be above 500. If your

reading after sitting and breathing on the 100% oxygen for 20 min. is the po2

103.2, that would be quite low. Mine as I said was 279. I cant tell by reading

your numbers if that reading was the result after breathing 100% oxygen for 20

minutes. Do you have the 100% oxygen printout?

Needing some resources

>

>

>

> Good morning everyone,

>

>

>

> It is time to ask for some help so I am posting on a couple of

boards

>

>

>

> to see if I can find the answers, this is something I don't see a

lot

>

>

>

> of on these boards, yet it has a lot to do with the problems caused

by

>

>

>

> varices. Everyone is always so helpful, sending links, encouragement

>

>

>

> and support.

>

>

>

> So here is my dilemna: yesterday I had a completely different kind

of

>

>

>

> test done due to the fact that I am becoming so shoort of breathe

>

>

>

> walking from the parking lot to the door leaves me out of breathe. I

>

>

>

> had a Blood oxygen test done....one with room air and one at 100%

>

>

>

> oxygen. The results printed out on a little like receipt size piece

of

>

>

>

> paper with a ton of numbers that I do not understand.

>

>

>

> Does anyone know of a link that can explain this test and the

results?

>

>

>

> Thanks for your help,

>

>

>

> Judy

>

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Needing some resources

Good morning everyone,

It is time to ask for some help so I am posting on a couple of boards

to see if I can find the answers, this is something I don't see a lot

of on these boards, yet it has a lot to do with the problems caused by

varices. Everyone is always so helpful, sending links, encouragement

and support.

So here is my dilemna: yesterday I had a completely different kind of

test done due to the fact that I am becoming so shoort of breathe

walking from the parking lot to the door leaves me out of breathe. I

had a Blood oxygen test done....one with room air and one at 100%

oxygen. The results printed out on a little like receipt size piece of

paper with a ton of numbers that I do not understand.

Does anyone know of a link that can explain this test and the results?

Thanks for your help,

Judy

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The 21% printout was 103.2 and the 100% oxygen printout was 367.8.

>

> >

>

> > I found the number I was looking for. It's in this link, Lang and

>

> Stoller, figure 1. They say Pa O 2 under 500 is hps. Mine was 279.

Pa

>

> O2 is the ABG with 100%oxygen for 20 minutes. Normal is above 500.

>

> The way they write it is 500< normal

>

> > >500 abnormal.

>

> >

>

> > Needing some resources

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Good morning everyone,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > It is time to ask for some help so I am posting on a couple of

>

> boards

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > to see if I can find the answers, this is something I don't see a

>

> lot

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > of on these boards, yet it has a lot to do with the problems

caused

>

> by

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > varices. Everyone is always so helpful, sending links,

encouragement

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > and support.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > So here is my dilemna: yesterday I had a completely different

kind

>

> of

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > test done due to the fact that I am becoming so shoort of breathe

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > walking from the parking lot to the door leaves me out of

breathe. I

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > had a Blood oxygen test done....one with room air and one at 100%

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > oxygen. The results printed out on a little like receipt size

piece

>

> of

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > paper with a ton of numbers that I do not understand.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Does anyone know of a link that can explain this test and the

>

> results?

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Thanks for your help,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Judy

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thats interesting. You are at sea level. Did they tell you you have a pulmonary

shunt? I was told that your ABG after 20 minutes on 100% oxygen should be over

500. You saw DR Grahms notes on my test. He said that it should be higher , but

didnt say how much higher. Lang anfd Stoller's paper in figure 1 says 500, and I

recall DR Grahm saying it too. My problem is that sea level 279 is not enough to

classify as a MELD exception. If I were you, I would ask directly " Do I have

Hepato pulmonary syndrome " and " Can I get a standard Meld exception for it? "

http://www.unos.org/PublicComment/pubcommentPropSub_146.pdf

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Bob,

The transplant clinic told me that when they did that bubble doppler

thingy (I used to know the exact name) back when they first did my

evaluation that I was positive for the heptopulminary syndrome or

shunt then. At that time I was not experiencing the shortness of

breath. Of course, they did not tell me this until I started talking

about the shortness of breath and describing what happened at work

last week, which they had said that I was hyperventilating (never

done that before). I actually did the Liver walk in October. Three

miles, though I was behind the rest of my team, I still did it. I

know that I could not do it now. The transplant clinic did tell me

that my meld score would change when and if I had to have oxygen

supplements. I actually have a couple of things that they are

watching. The oxygen is one thing. The other of major concern is

the developement of 4 new, what appears to be tumors in my liver.

June's MRI showed none. October's CT showed 2 and the December MRI

showed 4. When the largest reaches 2.0 cm they said that it would

change the MELD. That is the more worrisome of it all,the

possibility of it spreading outside the liver. I hae actually been

following the threads of being listed at two transplant clinics and

had made up my mind to contact my insurance company tomorrow.

Bob, thank you for helping so much today. I wanted a better

understanding of what I was looking at, and I have it now. You

helped a great deal. By the way, you may be interested........the

site Abijann gave is informative, but it also has some great links on

it, some of which include a calculator. I could not figure out the

calculator, but maybe you can.

Judy

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> Thats interesting. You are at sea level. Did they tell you you have

a pulmonary shunt? I was told that your ABG after 20 minutes on 100%

oxygen should be over 500. You saw DR Grahms notes on my test. He

said that it should be higher , but didnt say how much higher. Lang

anfd Stoller's paper in figure 1 says 500, and I recall DR Grahm

saying it too. My problem is that sea level 279 is not enough to

classify as a MELD exception. If I were you, I would ask directly " Do

I have Hepato pulmonary syndrome " and " Can I get a standard Meld

exception for it? "

> http://www.unos.org/PublicComment/pubcommentPropSub_146.pdf

>