[sickbuildings] Update with dr's here making comments.Re:Mysterious Death After Gardening

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> All except for two of my friends, who listened to me when I asked

> them

> > to correlate their feelings of depression and lethargy to a

> specific

> > wind direction - the direction from that farm!

> > So whenever they felt like Hell, they would go outside and check

> the

> > wind - and they would ask each other " How do you feel. When did it

> > start. When did this wind start blowing? " and made a positive

> > association between their health and the wind direction.

> > They moved, and said they felt " hits " from their possessions for a

> > full year after moving.

> > -

>

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>

> A toxicologist could advise residents of what to test for by

posting

> adsorbant material (carbon filters) on their siding on that side of

> the house and testing it for potential toxins known to come from

> farms. This may include such diverse things as methane, ammonia,

> pesticides, mold = experts can advise relative to the

possibilities.

>

> First you find out what is hitting you. Then you find out what

> source is reasonable to implicate based upon distance, other

> surrounding sources etc.

>

> Medically, analyzing the immediate environment tells you what you

> need to discuss with your doctor. Source analysis tells you what

to

> do to cut off the continuing influx of the offensive toxicants.

> Then, if you can't cut it off, you wind up having to relocate and

> perhaps lose your possessions.

>

> Lastly, you can contemplate legal action if the losses are

> intolerable or the 'sources' uncooperative from a legal standpoint.

> However, the basic analysis is vital in order to manage the

> situation. Too many people only think in terms of litigation but we

> can't deal with the medical problems in the absence of such data

re:

> causation. It is unfair to the docs whose licensure also requires

> they document why they do what they do etc.

> Barb Rubin

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The medical profession and toxicologists have repeatedly

demonstrated that their testing reveals no " scientific " reason for

these complaints.

The common failure of testing to find a plausible reason is an

indication that if a sufferer wished to take matters into their own

hands, reliance on professional testing as a guide to action is the

last thing you would want to do.

Most people are finding out by simple experimentation what they

should do to avoid the irritant in question - and most of the doctors

call their actions 'hysteria':

Which suggests that whatever the problem is, doctors would not have

found it.

In my friends case, the fact that the mold on this one

object 'followed' him to Texas and recreated the same symptoms tells

him that whatever other " contributors " may have also been present in

the plume from that compost farm, that this specific mold alone was

enough to be a driving factor even without other factors.

By taking the mold from one location to another and recreate

the " effect " , not only do you narrow down the suspects considerably,

but the cost involved was negligible compared to what testing would

have been.

Not to mention that testing often winds up with the sensitized

individual being assured that nothing was found, so any further

complaints are likely to be diagnosed as psychosomatic in origin.

-MW