Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I wish they would flood the TV airwaves with that Saddleback interview!!! It displayed their true character/positions better than anything I've seen. Just my 2 cents. Shirley [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew25.org/paf/index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner www.all4gals.blogspot.com http://www.savingdinner.com/1053.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1724 - Release Date: 10/14/2008 2:02 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 , BO can say whatever he wants - he LIES. You need to check his record! just sent the info a few minutes ago; please read her email. This just goes to show how many people are deceived by him. Shari Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew25.org/paf/index.htm Mahernicjoe@...www.all4gals.blogspot.comhttp://www.savingdinner.com/1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 HAS ANYONE EVER WONDERED WHO AND WHERE THE ANTI CHRIST IS???? Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I've seen those emails, and they do make you think twice, but isn't he supposed to come from the old Roman empire? I think this whole thing is definitely showing how easily the Anti Christ will be able to sweep in and take over. Shari HAS ANYONE EVER WONDERED WHO AND WHERE THE ANTI CHRIST IS???? Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yes, I have. My thoughts were 'unlikely.' The whole world will come on board with him. I don't think we are there yet, but I have been noticing how most of the world is affected by this financial mess. Shirley Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all HAS ANYONE EVER WONDERED WHO AND WHERE THE ANTI CHRIST IS???? Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1724 - Release Date: 10/14/2008 2:02 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 my husband thinks it's Obama Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all HAS ANYONE EVER WONDERED WHO AND WHERE THE ANTI CHRIST IS???? Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 HE"S NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT !!!!!HE"S NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT!! DEBBIE Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 The problem is that they are not telling the truth. Here is Obama in his own words (on video) talking about abortion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NN4TKrViNE & feature=related It is NOT true that the reason he voted against the Born Alive bill was because there was already another law in place that covered that. Obama specifically voted against that bill because he said that it might make it harder for women to get abortions down the road if a “fetus” was found to have the constitutional right to live . http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/07/obama_relevant.html and here is a CNN report on it. I wonder if people understand what FOCA is? Freedom of Choice Act, which Obama has promised to sign as one of his first acts as President, would nullify every law we have against abortion..it would strip the rights of individual states to make their own laws regarding abortion. It strikes down the parental notification law that some states have..under FOCA, minors can get abortions without their parents’ knowledge or consent. Would you want your 13 yr old daughter to have an abortion without telling you? It would mandate that the federal government would have to pay for abortions. It would make it legal to have an abortion at ANY time during the pregnancy…the bill says “before viability”, but in practice, there is not firm standard for viability..an abortionist could do an abortion at any time before natural delivery if he deems the mother in ‘distress’ (including emotional distress) FOCA is the most extreme pro abortion bill that has been proposed. I wrote to 25 org a few weeks ago, because I have a real problem with organizations that say they are ‘Christian’, yet who support abortion, and a very pro abortion candidate….and twist the facts to make it seem like their candidate is in line with Christian principles. I suggested that a better verse for them to base their organization on was 15:14 KathyR From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Maher Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:41 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew25.org/paf/index.htm Maher nicjoe@... www.all4gals.blogspot.com http://www.savingdinner.com/1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- An independent watchdog that checks the facts on statements and political ads from candidates and campaigns says Barack Obama is misleading people abortion. The FactCheck web site of the University of Pennsylvania reviewed the debate over the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act. At issue is the bill that Obama opposed that would provide medical care for newborn infants who survive abortions. Obama says he voted against the bill because it didn't mirror a national version that had language making it neutral on Roe v. Wade -- even though Obama voted for language in committee to make the state legislation conform. The National Right to Life Committee released documents exposing Obama's misrepresentation and the pro-abortion presidential candidate later accused the group of " lying " in a terse interview. " We find that, as the NRLC said in a recent statement, Obama voted in committee against the 2003 state bill that was nearly identical to the federal act he says he would have supported, " FactCheck indicated after reviewing the documents. " Both contained identical clauses saying that nothing in the bills could be construed to affect legal rights of an unborn fetus, according to an undisputed summary written immediately after the committee's 2003 mark-up session, " it continued. The watchdog organization noted that Obama voted against the bills in 2001 and 2002 because they didn't contain the neutralization language, but said Obama is misrepresenting his 2003 vote. " Obama's claim is wrong. In fact, by the time the HHS Committee voted on the bill, it did contain language identical to the federal act, " it said. That bill, " never made it to the floor; it was voted down by the Health and Human Services Committee, which Obama chaired, " FactCheck said. FactCheck said the documents NRLC produced from the Illinois state legislature are undisputed in their validity. It contacted Patty Schuh, spokesperson for the Illinois Senate Republicans, and Brock Willeford, who was the staff aide whose name appears on the documents, and both said they are genuine. smeyer, spokesperson for the Illinois Senate Democrats, did not dispute the documents were legitimate. The Obama campaign has since put out a new excuse for the votes, saying they would have gone up against state abortion laws that allow abortions. " But whether or not one accepts those arguments, it is not the reason Obama had been giving for his 2003 opposition, " FactCheck concluded. From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Maher Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:41 AM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew25.org/paf/index.htm Maher nicjoe@... www.all4gals.blogspot.com http://www.savingdinner.com/1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Deceit.. It's the one thing his campaign is based on. We as a people need to wake up and stop being lazy and really dig into the information that is available to all of us before we make a decision that could be devastating to our country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I agree….I also appreciate that poster. I added it to the blog last night. http://www.downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com From: DownSyndromeInfoExchange [mailto:DownSyndromeInfoExchange ] On Behalf Of Patty Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:46 PM To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Subject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all Deceit.. It's the one thing his campaign is based on. We as a people need to wake up and stop being lazy and really dig into the information that is available to all of us before we make a decision that could be devastating to our country. _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I love that poster too. It says it all in a simple yet profound way. RE: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all I agree….I also appreciate that poster. I added it to the blog last night. http://www.downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Maybe we should that to the 25 ministry that is promoting Obama. Good Grief. Besides.. what ever happened to Christians obeying " Thou shall not kill"? I mean really ! Even if someone wanted to debate the original language.. ( I have heard it said it means Thou shall not Murder and Thou shall not kill the innocent") Isn't it better to err on the side of caution???? I don't see how a Christian can vote for Obama. Much less promote him. Steph Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all Deceit.. It's the one thing his campaign is based on. We as a people need to wake up and stop being lazy and really dig into the information that is available to all of us before we make a decision that could be devastating to our country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Look down at the bottom of the page on 25, this is a PAC, not a religious group. Even when I read what BO said, he said nothing about aborted fetuses, which is how he would characterize them. He said treatment would not be withheld from an infant with a chance of survival. He does not believe an aborted fetus is an infant, so this does not change the fact that he would let a baby die if he or she were the product of abortion. He is playing a word game. There is a You Tube video of BO telling why he voted against the Infant Born Alive bill. Not because there was already such a law, but because it would be traumatic for the mother who already decided her child should die to know the child didn't die right away. It would also require another doctor's presence. I'll look up the link if you can't find it. ette -------------- Original message from Maher : -------------- Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew25.org/paf/index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner www.all4gals.blogspot.com http://www.savingdinner.com/1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008  Actually if you do a little research you will find that matthew25.org is an organization formed to try and sway anti-abortion supporters toward Obama. Deception plain and simple... Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all Look down at the bottom of the page on 25, this is a PAC, not a religious group. Even when I read what BO said, he said nothing about aborted fetuses, which is how he would characterize them. He said treatment would not be withheld from an infant with a chance of survival. He does not believe an aborted fetus is an infant, so this does not change the fact that he would let a baby die if he or she were the product of abortion. He is playing a word game. There is a You Tube video of BO telling why he voted against the Infant Born Alive bill. Not because there was already such a law, but because it would be traumatic for the mother who already decided her child should die to know the child didn't die right away. It would also require another doctor's presence. I'll look up the link if you can't find it. ette -------------- Original message from Maher : -------------- Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew25.org/paf/index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner www.all4gals.blogspot.com http://www.savingdinner.com/1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008  correction: I didn't mean to say formed to, I mean is another organization trying to sway... Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all Look down at the bottom of the page on 25, this is a PAC, not a religious group. Even when I read what BO said, he said nothing about aborted fetuses, which is how he would characterize them. He said treatment would not be withheld from an infant with a chance of survival. He does not believe an aborted fetus is an infant, so this does not change the fact that he would let a baby die if he or she were the product of abortion. He is playing a word game. There is a You Tube video of BO telling why he voted against the Infant Born Alive bill. Not because there was already such a law, but because it would be traumatic for the mother who already decided her child should die to know the child didn't die right away. It would also require another doctor's presence. I'll look up the link if you can't find it. ette -------------- Original message from Maher : -------------- Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew25.org/paf/index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner www.all4gals.blogspot.com http://www.savingdinner.com/1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Nah, the AntiChrist is supposed to be wildly popular and even Christians will not see his evil untill it is too late...he's less than a 50% approval rating...and only running 5-6 points above McCain...not wildly popular. , Mom to 15, DS, Southern CaliforniaTo succeed in life,you need three things:a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.~ Reba McIntyre Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/speech.html Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all HE"S NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT !!!!!HE"S NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT!! DEBBIE Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Yep, that's what I was telling my mom yesterday. Nah, the AntiChrist is supposed to be wildly popular and even Christians will not see his evil untill it is too late...he's less than a 50% approval rating...and only running 5-6 points above McCain...not wildly popular. , Mom to 15, DS, Southern CaliforniaTo succeed in life,you need three things:a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.~ Reba McIntyre Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/speech.html Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all HE " S NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT !!!!!HE " S NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THAT!! DEBBIE Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!' According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ willbe a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations withpersuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy saysthat people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,and when he is in power, will destroy everything..Do we recognize this description??I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times asyou can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet.......do it!I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.From: Dr. Tisdale __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Friends,As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation!Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Biblical Anti Christ or not.. no pro abort will get my vote When you get down to it.. being as pro abort as he is.. it is sortof Anti Christ ( against Christ) Steph Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!' According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ willbe a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations withpersuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy saysthat people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,and when he is in power, will destroy everything..Do we recognize this description??I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times asyou can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet.......do it!I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.From: Dr. Tisdale __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Friends,As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation!Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Very true! Biblical Anti Christ or not.. no pro abort will get my vote When you get down to it.. being as pro abort as he is.. it is sortof Anti Christ ( against Christ) Steph Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!' According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ willbe a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations withpersuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy saysthat people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,and when he is in power, will destroy everything..Do we recognize this description??I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times asyou can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet.......do it!I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.From: Dr. Tisdale __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Friends,As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation!Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 "people will flock to him " Boy Obama certainly does fit the description here...but I guess 'flocking' to him 'to me' seems more like an overwhelmingly popular person... BUT at the same time my Bible study ladies are 'so' impressed by him and that in itself is pretty scary that they can be 'blinded' ---their issue is the war in Iraq. Also, do you think we could 'stop' a prophesey? Not that I want to 'force' one into happening, but that's just something I have wondered--if we 'know' that the prophesey is immenent, I say get right with God and hold on for the Tribulation. , Mom to 15, DS, Southern CaliforniaTo succeed in life,you need three things:a wishbone, a backbone and a funny bone.~ Reba McIntyre Diagnosis Down Syndrome: A Site of Hope for New Parents or Parents with a Prenatal Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/What to Say to Parents of a Child with a Diagnosishttp://www.leeworks.net/DDS/speech.html Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!' According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ willbe a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations withpersuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy saysthat people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,and when he is in power, will destroy everything..Do we recognize this description??I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times asyou can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet.......do it!I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.From: Dr. Tisdale __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Friends,As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation!Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Tell me we get to "leave" before this... Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!' According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ willbe a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations withpersuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy saysthat people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,and when he is in power, will destroy everything..Do we recognize this description??I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times asyou can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet.......do it!I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.From: Dr. Tisdale __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Friends,As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation! Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 There are a lot of views concerning when the 'believers' are taken out of this world. I personally believe the Bible teaches a pre-tribulation rapture. That is, the 'church' (universal church...all who believe in Christ) is raptured in the twinkling of an eye (taken out of the world) before the anti-Christ is revealed. Has anyone read the "Left Behind" series by Tim LaHaye? It is a work of fiction. The writers have taken what they see in the book of Revelations and other passages that deal with prophecy and write a story about how it might happen. I really enjoyed reading all the books in the series. Most libraries have it. I'm praying for God's Will to be done, that the eyes of voters will be opened to the truth, and for strength and wisdom for and and their families. Hope you all have a blessed day. Shirley Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!' According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ willbe a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations withpersuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy saysthat people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,and when he is in power, will destroy everything..Do we recognize this description??I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times asyou can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet.......do it!I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.From: Dr. Tisdale __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Friends,As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation! Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 That is exactly what I am praying for also. Patty I'm praying for God's Will to be done, that the eyes of voters will be opened to the truth, and for strength and wisdom for and and their families. Hope you all have a blessed day. Shirley Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re:abortion, politics, but please read...it really will affect us all How long is the beast allowed to have authority in Revelations?Revelations Chapter 13 tells us it is 42 months, and you know what that is.Almost a four-year term of a Presidency.All I can say is 'Lord, Have mercy on us!' According to The Book of Revelations the anti-Christ is: The anti-Christ willbe a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations withpersuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy saysthat people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace,and when he is in power, will destroy everything..Do we recognize this description??I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to post this as many times asyou can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet.......do it!I refuse to take a chance on this unknown candidate who came out of nowhere.From: Dr. Tisdale __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Friends,As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the statement with pride. . .'we are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, . . .' As with so many other statements I've heard him (and his wife) make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear something like that from a presidential candidate in this nation. To think our forefathers fought and died for the right for our nation to be a Christian nation--and to have this man say with pride that we are no longer that. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers intended it to be.I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns, written simply and sincerely, to the Christians on your email list. With God's help, and He is still in control of this nation and all else, we can show this man and the world in November that we are, indeed, still a Christian nation! Debbie P Please take the time to read what Barack Obama HIMSELF says and has voted...and WHY he voted the way he did on these issues. This is a good link done by a Christian organization that is tired of other Christians passing on lies. http://www.matthew2 5.org/paf/ index.htm Maher nicjoeroadrunner (DOT) com www.all4gals. blogspot. com http://www.savingdi nner.com/ 1053.html __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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