Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM Subject: (unknown) I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 When you figure out how to stay warm and sleep when you should, please let me know. The nights are long. haha Lyncia In life family and friends take us on all kinds of adventures, God helps us choose our path....Enjoy your journey! Subject: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 10:01 PM I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Diane, I can related to your husband, I hate the cold the most. Lyncia In life family and friends take us on all kinds of adventures, God helps us choose our path....Enjoy your journey! Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:49 AM The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: italybell69 <italybell69@ yahoo.com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM Subject: (unknown) I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yep, that's the one that's getting the best of him right now. He stays covered up all the time, usually with a couple of the fleece throws wrapped around him. Diane ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:57:45 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Diane, I can related to your husband, I hate the cold the most. Lyncia In life family and friends take us on all kinds of adventures, God helps us choose our path....Enjoy your journey! From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:49 AM The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: italybell69 <italybell69@ yahoo.com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM Subject: (unknown) I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I put the electric blanket under the sheet.....hehe Lyncia In life family and friends take us on all kinds of adventures, God helps us choose our path....Enjoy your journey! From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:49 AM The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: italybell69 <italybell69@ yahoo.com> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM Subject: (unknown) I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Before my liver transplant, being cold was so awful for me too! I was always wrapped up in an electric blanket, sometimes two. Penny > > From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> > Subject: Re: (unknown) > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:49 AM > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ yahoo.com> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > Subject: (unknown) > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Since my transplant, I am so hot all the time. My body temp is normal again and I just sweat. I'm still not used to having a normal temp even after almost 11 months since my transplant. Penny > > > > From: diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net> > > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:49 AM > > > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people > with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so > common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may > happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. > However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common > complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I > can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints > are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) > I'm cold. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ yahoo.com> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly > tired......I > > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Diane, Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least his feet are cold all the time. And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which causes most of his symptoms. Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE sense of humor! Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope everyone has a great night! I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some zzzz's for him and for your hubby. Have a great one! Twila > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: livercirrhosissupport > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Hi Twila, Yep, they do sound a lot alike! We've got the same going on here, the diabetes and the liver disease. We know the liver is the culprit though becuase he had had the diabetes for years before the cirrhosis and didn't have problems with the tiredness, etc. He also has so much edema in his legs, ankles and feet. Sometimes they just ooze water through the skin. He's already on two different types of diuretics and they're afraid to give him anymore. They tried to increase and it caused dehydration and a really bad episode of kidney failure and encephalopathy. Poor dear. No sweetie, you didn't offend me! We all have to deal with the horrid disease the best way we can. And, it is true, laughter is the best medicine. We're constantly laughing about the weirdest things. Some people would think we're a little crazy, but we don't care. We figure they'd be a little crazy too if they had to live this disease for a little while! Hope you get some good rest! Praying for you and your DH. Hugs..................... Diane ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:50:25 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Diane, Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least his feet are cold all the time. And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which causes most of his symptoms. Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE sense of humor! Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope everyone has a great night! I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some zzzz's for him and for your hubby. Have a great one! Twila > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Twila, Don't apologize for your sense of humor!! We NEED one for sure, this life is tough some times and I cherish people with a sense of humor!!! Bless you!!! Pamela Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:50 PM Diane, Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least his feet are cold all the time. And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which causes most of his symptoms. Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE sense of humor! Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope everyone has a great night! I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some zzzz's for him and for your hubby. Have a great one! Twila > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yea!I I find myself laughing at the most un apprpopriate times,wich makes me look crazy lol ;0) It is my mechanism for stress,today I found myself laughing (out loud) in total dead silence at an A.A. meeting because I was off in thought thinking about lactalose hehe.....Not only am I sick with ESLD but I have been the caregiver to my 82 yr old father-in-law,whom has severe Alzheimers & is incontinent has been for the last 4 yrs so cleaning poop and bodily fluids I have found Hysterical in some way......God Bless! From: tjingham <tjinghamgmail (DOT) com> Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:50 PM Diane, Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least his feet are cold all the time. And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which causes most of his symptoms. Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE sense of humor! Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope everyone has a great night! I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some zzzz's for him and for your hubby. Have a great one! Twila > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Sweetheart, if you can find humor in wiping behinds and cleaning poop, you are a treasure indeed! Dealing with life would be impossible for me if I could not laugh about the inappropriate, that's when it's the funniet!!! Luv you ! Hugs............ Diane ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:04:57 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) Yea!I I find myself laughing at the most un apprpopriate times,wich makes me look crazy lol ;0) It is my mechanism for stress,today I found myself laughing (out loud) in total dead silence at an A.A. meeting because I was off in thought thinking about lactalose hehe.....Not only am I sick with ESLD but I have been the caregiver to my 82 yr old father-in-law, whom has severe Alzheimers & is incontinent has been for the last 4 yrs so cleaning poop and bodily fluids I have found Hysterical in some way......God Bless! From: tjingham <tjinghamgmail (DOT) com> Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:50 PM Diane, Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least his feet are cold all the time. And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which causes most of his symptoms. Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE sense of humor! Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope everyone has a great night! I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some zzzz's for him and for your hubby. Have a great one! Twila > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 , I never thought of poop like I do now. I took care of my best friend who died of ESLD in 06 and by the time whe went into the hospice, I had a tearful meeting with the nursing staff and cna's cause poop was such an issue for me by then. All the way up to her final hour, we had to discuss this. " Do we change her at this point? What if she goes while being changed? A lot of people actually do. Let's change her, if she goes, then, well, she'll be clean. " . In the weeks after and as I attended my first 90 and 90 in AA people thought I was NUTS. I HAD to talk about poop. I got furious if I found the slightest yellow stain on Ardis' leg, and don't tell me that is seeping out of her skin! Some people were fired and a nursing home investigated my the state because of poop. Hey, she was content to die alone in her apartment, it was ME who called 911 for her and had her admitted to the hospital, and nursing home, and hospice. In the end Ardis was paying with her medicare for a professional to do what I had done for the entire preceding year- Poop duty. I felt like making sure she got her money's worth. So I totally get your drift! http://robertwalkingeagle.googlepages.com/home Love, your fellow poopie pro, Bobby aka rwe. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (unknown) > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Yep, I'm right there with ya Bobby & ! We are poop pros!!! God Bless us!!! Pamela From: tjingham <tjinghamgmail (DOT) com> Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:50 PM Diane, Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least his feet are cold all the time. And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which causes most of his symptoms. Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE sense of humor! Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope everyone has a great night! I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some zzzz's for him and for your hubby. Have a great one! Twila > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 It is nice to know that someone elseknows what its like,it actually is nothing after you get the hang of it,it's like a baby.My own mother always kind sat back and said " how do you do THAT " (now,your talking about my parents whom have been married for 42 years still cant find it in themselves to even so much as fart in front of each other)he,he,he,I think that sad...but then Oh boy,last year mom had to have butt surgery and guess where she stayed to recover:)now she has a different oppinion......thank you for the A.A. advice,I guess back then I just had a different oppinion about it,hell,I had a different oppinion about me.I'm sorry about Ardie,I saw her pictures on the site,I'm sure you were a great friend,but I was wondering why she deceided not to try for a transplant? God Bless. From: tjingham <tjinghamgmail (DOT) com> Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:50 PM Diane, Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least his feet are cold all the time. And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which causes most of his symptoms. Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE sense of humor! Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope everyone has a great night! I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some zzzz's for him and for your hubby. Have a great one! Twila > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 , when she was first diagnosed she basically told me she was dying, and I didn't have a computer, had never sent or received an email, and just had no resource to find anything out. It wasn't until the summer of 06 that she was repeatedly hospitalized that I got online and started looking things up, finding her different doctors, and what I should do. I picked out a name from the Denver phone book, Fishman, and read that he was from Johannesburg South Africa, and decided to take her there. ( I now see him as my gastro interologist) At the appointment, he spelled it out for us in plain english,he said with his heavy sooth eefrican accent " my dear, you need a livah trinsplent!, You caan't geet any sleep, your leegs ar swoolen leek a wooter mellon, yoo wont leev long at thees rate. You need a freesh liveh. My sugestion is to go to the univaahsutee across the street, and eesk for a treensplent evaluation as soon as possible! You'll feel so much beetah with a freesh livah! " So, the next time I took her to the hospital, I got her to sign a medical power of attorney, and get witness to sign it, and in the morning when the 9 doctors came in for morning rounds ( CU is a teaching hospital) I slipped the head doctor a letter that read " please pass this around, but don't let Ardis see it- I love her with all of my heart, but my wife needs brain surgery. If we cant get some help, as soon as you discharge her, I will bring her to the ER and we both know that because of her condition you will be compelled to admit her again. I want a liver transplant evaluation for my friend, we have been friends for 9 years and now I have power of attorney and I am begging for your help. They finally got her a social worker, who made all the arraignments, and one of those things was a transplant evaluation 7 days before she died. They told me that if she could hang on she would be at the top of the list, but later they deemed her to not be a candidate because of social support. Everything I do in AA and here is dedicated to Ardis. Love Bobby long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:58:38 PM Subject: Re: (unknown) It is nice to know that someone elseknows what its like,it actually is nothing after you get the hang of it,it's like a baby.My own mother always kind sat back and said " how do you do THAT " (now,your talking about my parents whom have been married for 42 years still cant find it in themselves to even so much as fart in front of each other)he,he, he,I think that sad...but then Oh boy,last year mom had to have butt surgery and guess where she stayed to recover:)now she has a different oppinion.... ..thank you for the A.A. advice,I guess back then I just had a different oppinion about it,hell,I had a different oppinion about me.I'm sorry about Ardie,I saw her pictures on the site,I'm sure you were a great friend,but I was wondering why she deceided not to try for a transplant? God Bless. From: tjingham <tjinghamgmail (DOT) com> Subject: Re: (unknown) To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:50 PM Diane, Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least his feet are cold all the time. And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which causes most of his symptoms. Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE sense of humor! Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope everyone has a great night! I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some zzzz's for him and for your hubby. Have a great one! Twila > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) I'm cold. > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > Subject: (unknown) > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly tired......I > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I had a thought which seems appropriate to mention here. Yesterday, out of the blue, I thought " I should write a book entitled 'A funny thing happened to me on the way to my death. " Jan H On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:54 PM, diane chandler wrote: > Sweetheart, if you can find humor in wiping behinds and cleaning poop, > you are a treasure indeed! Dealing with life would be impossible for me if > I could not laugh about the inappropriate, that's when it's the funniet!!! > Luv you ! > > Hugs............ > Diane > > ________________________________ > From: wendy miller <italybell69@... <italybell69%40yahoo.com>> > To: livercirrhosissupport <livercirrhosissupport%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:04:57 PM > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > Yea!I I find myself laughing at the most un apprpopriate times,wich makes > me look crazy lol ;0) It is my mechanism for stress,today I found myself > laughing (out loud) in total dead silence at an A.A. meeting because I was > off in thought thinking about lactalose hehe.....Not only am I sick with > ESLD but I have been the caregiver to my 82 yr old father-in-law, whom has > severe Alzheimers & is incontinent has been for the last 4 yrs so cleaning > poop and bodily fluids I have found Hysterical in some way......God Bless! > > > > From: tjingham <tjinghamgmail (DOT) com> > Subject: Re: (unknown) > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:50 PM > > Diane, > Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like > him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a > headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, > until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another > 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least > his feet are cold all the time. > > And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the > cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired > syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's > kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which > causes most of his symptoms. > > Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of > humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother > always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE > sense of humor! > > Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope > everyone has a great night! > > I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. > My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some > zzzz's for him and for your hubby. > > Have a great one! > Twila > > > > > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people > with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so > common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may > happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. > However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common > complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I > can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints > are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) > I'm cold. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly > tired......I > > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Bless you. NIce to meet you. My name is Bobby. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile (unknown) hello my husband has end stage liver. hospice is now coming out and they told him 2 to 6 months. but after reading all the posting here. i have alot of faith. but than again i read some and it changes. i believe its up to god. but we both have faced it. and we have just been spending all our time together. i quit my job to be by his side all the time. he sleeps alot. thanks for all your support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Hi Mitzi, I just wanted to say that I completely understand where you're coming from. It is like a roller coaster ride, very high up one day and way low down the next. Sometimes the ups and downs even come several a day. You are so right, we are all in God's hands and that's a secure place to be. He loves us and will care for us and keep us, according to His will. This is a great group of very supportive people who will love you and help you in any way we can. We are always here for you. You and your husband are in my prayers. Hang on and post here any time. Someone will always be around. Hugs.......... Diane ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 11:59:10 PM Subject: (unknown) hello my husband has end stage liver. hospice is now coming out and they told him 2 to 6 months. but after reading all the posting here. i have alot of faith. but than again i read some and it changes. i believe its up to god. but we both have faced it. and we have just been spending all our time together. i quit my job to be by his side all the time. he sleeps alot. thanks for all your support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 I think that is a marvelous idea! Put me down for a copy of the first printing! Hugs......... Diane ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 12:49:14 AM Subject: Re: (unknown) I had a thought which seems appropriate to mention here. Yesterday, out of the blue, I thought " I should write a book entitled 'A funny thing happened to me on the way to my death. " Jan H On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:54 PM, diane chandler <dianechandler@ att.net>wrote: > Sweetheart, if you can find humor in wiping behinds and cleaning poop, > you are a treasure indeed! Dealing with life would be impossible for me if > I could not laugh about the inappropriate, that's when it's the funniet!!! > Luv you ! > > Hugs........ .... > Diane > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: wendy miller <italybell69@ yahoo.com <italybell69% 40yahoo.com> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com<livercirrhosissupp ort%40yahoogroup s.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 3:04:57 PM > Subject: Re: (unknown) > > Yea!I I find myself laughing at the most un apprpopriate times,wich makes > me look crazy lol ;0) It is my mechanism for stress,today I found myself > laughing (out loud) in total dead silence at an A.A. meeting because I was > off in thought thinking about lactalose hehe.....Not only am I sick with > ESLD but I have been the caregiver to my 82 yr old father-in-law, whom has > severe Alzheimers & is incontinent has been for the last 4 yrs so cleaning > poop and bodily fluids I have found Hysterical in some way......God Bless! > > > > From: tjingham <tjinghamgmail (DOT) com> > Subject: Re: (unknown) > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:50 PM > > Diane, > Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like > him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a > headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, > until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another > 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least > his feet are cold all the time. > > And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the > cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired > syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's > kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which > causes most of his symptoms. > > Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of > humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother > always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE > sense of humor! > > Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope > everyone has a great night! > > I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. > My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some > zzzz's for him and for your hubby. > > Have a great one! > Twila > > > > > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people > with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so > common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may > happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. > However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common > complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I > can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints > are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) > I'm cold. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly > tired......I > > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Ha! I think we all could be book writers,were real good at expressing on paper!)!) I thought of a book title " You'll NEVER believe what happened last night " your is cuter,God Bless, > > From: tjingham <tjinghamgmail (DOT) com> > Subject: Re: (unknown) > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:50 PM > > Diane, > Just wondering if you're married to MY husband! Sounds just like > him! To tired to even think most days. When he does he gets a > headache. LOL If he sleeps, it's a nap, usually 2 hours or less, > until he just collapses, then it's 4-6 hours and he's up for another > 20...hours that is! And yes, he's cold all the time. Well, at least > his feet are cold all the time. > > And his ankles & feet are swelling a lot. Not sure if that's the > cihrrosis or the type 2 diabetes. Same goes for the 'geez I'm tired > syndrome'. Not sure which is the main cause of swelling. It's > kinda' like the chicken & the road story. We still don't know which > causes most of his symptoms. > > Sorry, hope I don't offend anyone here. I have a weird sense of > humor sometimes. And it comes through in my communication. My mother > always said Life requires a sense of humor, and in my life, a HUGE > sense of humor! > > Anywho, I'm pooped and it's way past my 'pumpkin time'. Hope > everyone has a great night! > > I'm off to lala land. Yes, I CAN sleep. It's not a problem for me. > My head hits the pillow and that's all it takes. I'll get some > zzzz's for him and for your hubby. > > Have a great one! > Twila > > > > > > The inversion of sleep patterns is not at all unusual in people > with liver disease, or many other types of chronic illness. It is so > common, it is almost considered the " norm " . As to why this may > happen, I'm not sure there is an acceptable scientific explanation. > However, it is observed very frequently and is one of the most common > complaints of those who are chronically ill. As for liver disease, I > can tell you that, for my husband at least, his biggest complaints > are: (1) I'm tired, (2) I can't sleep or I sleep all the time and (3) > I'm cold. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: italybell69 <italybell69@ ...> > > To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:01:53 PM > > Subject: (unknown) > > > > > > I'm about to change my name to " freezing insomniac " touched base on > > this topic earlier anyone have a clue as to why my brain goes into > > overload until " normal people " are getting up,I'm suddenly > tired......I > > was told not to take iron,that use to help me stay warm. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Yes, you did it right. Hello, I hope you had a good thanks giving. I hope everyone did. is experiencing some problems, but these are normal for Liver transplants. When I was first being evaluated for one, I was told " liver transplants are not for sissies. " That was kind of intimidating, because I am huge sissy when it comes to tubes down the throat, and needles, and such. Yeesh. They did take her NG tube out though a couple of days ago, and Joe says that she might, maybe get to eat solid food tonight. But I haven't checked the blog yet this evening, only right before my dinner. Love you all, Bobby long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:59:19 PM Subject: (unknown) DIANE CAN YOU TELL ME HOW I CAN CHAT WITH SOMEONE ON HERE, OR DO YOU JUST TYPE MESSAGES. THANKS FOR YOUR CONCERN WITH MY HUSBAND. WE HAD A NICE DINNER. HES SLEEPING NOW. HE DOES SLEEP ALOT AND HES ALWAYS COLD. THIS IS REALLY A NICE SITE. YOU PEOPLE ARE SO CARING AND GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Hi Mitzi, I believe they use Yahoo IM to chat. Bobby can you pick this one up please?! I don't usually join the chats but Bobby does so often. I know he can tell you what you need to do. Sorry I couldn't help you out! I so happy that you had a nice Thanksgiving. Our family is coming to our house for dinner tonight, so I still have the cooking ahead of me! Hugs........... Diane ________________________________ To: livercirrhosissupport Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:59:19 PM Subject: (unknown) DIANE CAN YOU TELL ME HOW I CAN CHAT WITH SOMEONE ON HERE, OR DO YOU JUST TYPE MESSAGES. THANKS FOR YOUR CONCERN WITH MY HUSBAND. WE HAD A NICE DINNER. HES SLEEPING NOW. HE DOES SLEEP ALOT AND HES ALWAYS COLD. THIS IS REALLY A NICE SITE. YOU PEOPLE ARE SO CARING AND GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Thanks Celeste. Great to hear your kids are doing well too, we dont have any but are trying and I have wondered what affect it would have on a child and also whether I would be yelling at them every time they put food in their mouth. I guess everybody will feel different and I wont know until the time.Lets be thankful to our loving and tolerant partners.To: Soundsensitivity Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:53:41 PMSubject: (unknown) Hi Tracey, welcome Yep, that's my biggest struggle -the person I love and trust the most in this world, my soulmate, is who's eating and breathing and other little things drive me the most crazy. Adult chewing is just hideous but luckly the kids sounds don't bother me really at all...unless they are trying to look over my shoulder while chewing...I' ll have to tell them to eat somewhere else. Btw, at 13 and 8, they are both doing great showing no signs of 4S > > Hi everybody > > My name is Tracey and Im a new member, also this is the first forum type group I have ever joined. > > I am looking forward to talking to you all and getting some understanding of what I experience. I am already relieved to see there are others who suffer from this. I thought I was just the world biggest most intolerant person. > > My sensitivity started, I think, around the time I was 12 or 13 and my mothers boyfriend used to make me stay at the table and wait until he had finished eating. I hated the man but at the same time felt sorry for him and powerless. Over the years it has spread to more people and situations although some days it doesnt bother me much at all. > > It causes stress is my relationship as sometimes when my beloved makes noises in my ear I instantly feel rage and hatred and give himthe most unkind hateful looks. > > Ironically, I have to go now - dinner time. Hopefully one day I will be able to say that with pleasure and enjoy a family dinner lik e' normal' people. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Thanks Darlene.20 years is a long time. It is like going into battle every day when you go out in the world, I never really realised it til today, since I joined the group and starting abstracting my thoughts on my 'situation' a bit. I am envious of people who can just relax and enjoy situations without having to brace against 'attack'.Thanks again and I hope over time I might be able to contribute something useful too.TraceyTo: Soundsensitivity Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:16:40 PMSubject: (unknown) Hi Tracey and welcome to the group. We all can relate to what you are going through and understand the relief knowing you are not alone. It took me over 20 years before I knew this was actually real! I hope you can find things here that will help you cope a bit better! Best wishes. Darlene > > Hi everybody > > My name is Tracey and Im a new member, also this is the first forum type group I have ever joined. > > I am looking forward to talking to you all and getting some understanding of what I experience. I am already relieved to see there are others who suffer from this. I thought I was just the world biggest most intolerant person. > > My sensitivity started, I think, around the time I was 12 or 13 and my mothers boyfriend used to make me stay at the table and wait until he had finished eating. I hated the man but at the same time felt sorry for him and powerless. Over the years it has spread to more people and situations although some days it doesnt bother me much at all. > > It causes stress is my relationship as sometimes when my beloved makes noises in my ear I instantly feel rage and hatred and give himthe most unkind hateful looks. > > Ironically, I have to go now - dinner time. Hopefully one day I will be able to say that with pleasure and enjoy a family dinner lik e' normal' people. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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