Re: OT Schooling quandry, to send or not to send

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If this school doesn't work out you could think of out of school

activities and clubs etc. Depending on how friendly they are he might

like swimming club/lessons, gym or trampolining, singing or a SEN

playground/after school club. Cubs will do a special needs person to

look after special child. Being with people/children other than you may

be a good idea. I think the important thing is to be with normal

children in such a way that they cannot persecute him. A club with a

structure, kindly adults, normal children might be a good idea. We do

more at the weekends and evenings when children are available and not

locked up in school. He might not want large doses of " children " but

it's great that he is attracted to them. You need to build on that,

probably without exposing him to quite how horrible normal children can be.

Sally

bbrowne123 wrote:

>

> I have been home educating for a year now. More and more my son is

> asking for children and every time he goes by a school and sees kids,

> he cries for " school " , " children " . Breaks ,my heart that I cant make

> him understand how the local schools would be the ruin of him.

>

> I always swore he would never go to a " special school " because of the

> nature of them whre I live (all teacch, and basically not autism

> specific in any way (if that is even possible).

>

> but today i found out about a school that is not MLD or SLD, just a

> school for " sensitive " kids and kids who have serious medical

> problems as well.

>

> I know this is a decision I have to make but really appreciate some

> opinions. I am going to go and look at the school and if they are not

> the " listening " type, i will walk away. Some of the kids who go to

> this school have lives that will be shortened due to severe illness

> and I have heard that the teachers are very pro parent.

>

> My son is not going to learn social communication by osmosis, but

> then again, maybe he will. There is no one autism and the fact he is

> hankering after kids and love being with them, is a positive sign????

>

> by the way, my friend who comes round regular came over today and i

> said to my boy " stephanie is here! " . He ran into the kitchen from the

> garden and gave her a big hug. He doesnt even partuclarly like her,

> as far as i knew!!! I was gushing. it was yet another first, he never

> even did that with his daddy.

>

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we too had ds asking for school after we took him out ,painful.It was somewhere

different

for him to go, the clubs as Sally suggested worked out v v well and were also

enough in

terms of duration too.

3 years later age 8 ,he did part time schooling in a sp school for a year with a

v

approachable teacher, lots of pros and cons.Now we stick to clubs.

Nina

In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , Eva family

wrote:

>

> If this school doesn't work out you could think of out of school

> activities and clubs etc. Depending on how friendly they are he might

> like swimming club/lessons, gym or trampolining, singing or a SEN

> playground/after school club. Cubs will do a special needs person to

> look after special child. Being with people/children other than you may

> be a good idea. I think the important thing is to be with normal

> children in such a way that they cannot persecute him. A club with a

> structure, kindly adults, normal children might be a good idea. We do

> more at the weekends and evenings when children are available and not

> locked up in school. He might not want large doses of " children " but

> it's great that he is attracted to them. You need to build on that,

> probably without exposing him to quite how horrible normal children can be.

>

> Sally

>

> bbrowne123 wrote:

> >

> > I have been home educating for a year now. More and more my son is

> > asking for children and every time he goes by a school and sees kids,

> > he cries for " school " , " children " . Breaks ,my heart that I cant make

> > him understand how the local schools would be the ruin of him.

> >

> > I always swore he would never go to a " special school " because of the

> > nature of them whre I live (all teacch, and basically not autism

> > specific in any way (if that is even possible).

> >

> > but today i found out about a school that is not MLD or SLD, just a

> > school for " sensitive " kids and kids who have serious medical

> > problems as well.

> >

> > I know this is a decision I have to make but really appreciate some

> > opinions. I am going to go and look at the school and if they are not

> > the " listening " type, i will walk away. Some of the kids who go to

> > this school have lives that will be shortened due to severe illness

> > and I have heard that the teachers are very pro parent.

> >

> > My son is not going to learn social communication by osmosis, but

> > then again, maybe he will. There is no one autism and the fact he is

> > hankering after kids and love being with them, is a positive sign????

> >

> > by the way, my friend who comes round regular came over today and i

> > said to my boy " stephanie is here! " . He ran into the kitchen from the

> > garden and gave her a big hug. He doesnt even partuclarly like her,

> > as far as i knew!!! I was gushing. it was yet another first, he never

> > even did that with his daddy.

> >

> >

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I had to respond as I know how you feel on this. My son used to cry

to go to school...well he does go! But as soon as he has stress in

school (to many kids around him) he is nagging to go home.

Over time he is getting better and now in school 5 hrs a week. To be

honest it does get in the way of his home therapy and would keep him

home longer. However before I won tribunal for him school was making

him worse...stimming, high anxiety, not encouraged to play with

others etc....getting better now as third term in with correct

support 1:1 trained. The three terms before that with a unqualified

person was a waste of time, causing more damage to be honest.

Learning from others play I hope will come in time, but he is heading

in the right directon. I just want to let you know the school is

rubish with meeting his needs, but this is not the issue the issue is

the 1:1 has to be fully trained. 5 hrs I find is amble also for him

as he needs the intense teaching at home. His school 1:1 is his home

support also....which helps.

BB, you are doing the right thing! The first few years are crucial in

getting as much intensive therapy in no matter what therapy as long

as it works for your child. Putting our children in school and

leaving them their is a waste of time if they have not got the right

support, unless that child was high functioning in the first place (I

mean behaviour/communication, not IQ).

I think Swallows mentions this in his response to Jordan about ABA v

TEACCH, but it applies to any therapy that works intense for your

child. Please dont beat yourself up. Its not just the school it's

getting the individual support that is needed that is so much

important.

>

> I have been home educating for a year now. More and more my son is

> asking for children and every time he goes by a school and sees

kids,

> he cries for " school " , " children " . Breaks ,my heart that I cant

make

> him understand how the local schools would be the ruin of him.

>

>

> I always swore he would never go to a " special school " because of

the

> nature of them whre I live (all teacch, and basically not autism

> specific in any way (if that is even possible).

>

> but today i found out about a school that is not MLD or SLD, just a

> school for " sensitive " kids and kids who have serious medical

> problems as well.

>

> I know this is a decision I have to make but really appreciate some

> opinions. I am going to go and look at the school and if they are

not

> the " listening " type, i will walk away. Some of the kids who go to

> this school have lives that will be shortened due to severe illness

> and I have heard that the teachers are very pro parent.

>

> My son is not going to learn social communication by osmosis, but

> then again, maybe he will. There is no one autism and the fact he

is

> hankering after kids and love being with them, is a positive

sign????

>

> by the way, my friend who comes round regular came over today and i

> said to my boy " stephanie is here! " . He ran into the kitchen from

the

> garden and gave her a big hug. He doesnt even partuclarly like her,

> as far as i knew!!! I was gushing. it was yet another first, he

never

> even did that with his daddy.

>

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Adrenal Cortex Extract has been used for a long time on these lists and

I haven't heard anything negative so I will assume the positive. I think

Mandi was looking into getting adrenal support products so you can have

a look there. I am happy with 'Adrenal rebuilder' from

www.adrenalfatigue.org but it took ages to get here from the states and

I had to pay a wopping VAT on it..

Vitamin C is incredibly important. The adreal glands pump out vitamin C

just before they pump out the adrenalin. Just found out today that the

adrenals are the main organ where dopamine is produced so there's

another reason to make sure they are functioning properly but MOST

important that they are allowed to rest and regenerate.

Try and keep anything out which you know sends your child's blood suger

to the roof. When this happens, the adrenals kick in, waste magnesium

and over time you will have problems. I think a good idea to test this,

is to find out what your child's resting pulse rate is. When it races

you know the adrenals have kicked in. So...when your child gets overly

active, aggressive, highly stimmed, check out the pulse and then try and

then see if you can isolate a food which may have caused the racing

pulse. Food, of course, is not the only trigger, chemical stresses (ie

newly pianted room, new type of detergent) could cause stress. Anything

psychological (you getting the latest exploitive phone bill and going on

a rampage...this happens here VERY often:-)) In short, try and see what

there is that could trigger a stressful event for your child and try and

eliminate it. Any extra burden on the adrenals has to be reduced as much

as possible.

Cuddle time, warm baths, walking alone with him in a forest, along a

beach, petting animals...anything you think would have a calming effect

would be very much in order.

Teas that calm are theanine and chamomile. Massages with rosemary oil

(Arnica oil) and lavender (these have chemicals which couneracts

excitatory amino acids like glutamate).

Playing calming music in the background. Doing anything that puts a

smile on his face or that you think would put a smile on his face.

That's it...can't think of anything else at the moment.

bbrowne123 schrieb:

>

> , can you advise how to start on promoting adrenal function? I

> didnt know all of this, how it affected/wsa displayed in behaviour.

>

> thats why my boy couoldnt cope at school either (by the way gave up

> the idea of school as soon as I considered it - just not the right

> time)

>

> is adrenal cortex safe and should you supp with other stuff to

> utilise it?

>

> thank you

> > > >

> > > > I have been home educating for a year now. More and more my son

> is

> > > > asking for children and every time he goes by a school and sees

> > > kids,

> > > > he cries for " school " , " children " . Breaks ,my heart that I cant

> > > make

> > > > him understand how the local schools would be the ruin of him.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I always swore he would never go to a " special school " because

> of

> > > the

> > > > nature of them whre I live (all teacch, and basically not autism

> > > > specific in any way (if that is even possible).

> > > >

> > > > but today i found out about a school that is not MLD or SLD,

> just a

> > > > school for " sensitive " kids and kids who have serious medical

> > > > problems as well.

> > > >

> > > > I know this is a decision I have to make but really appreciate

> some

> > > > opinions. I am going to go and look at the school and if they

> are

> > > not

> > > > the " listening " type, i will walk away. Some of the kids who go

> to

> > > > this school have lives that will be shortened due to severe

> illness

> > > > and I have heard that the teachers are very pro parent.

> > > >

> > > > My son is not going to learn social communication by osmosis,

> but

> > > > then again, maybe he will. There is no one autism and the fact

> he

> > > is

> > > > hankering after kids and love being with them, is a positive

> > > sign????

> > > >

> > > > by the way, my friend who comes round regular came over today

> and i

> > > > said to my boy " stephanie is here! " . He ran into the kitchen

> from

> > > the

> > > > garden and gave her a big hug. He doesnt even partuclarly like

> her,

> > > > as far as i knew!!! I was gushing. it was yet another first, he

> > > never

> > > > even did that with his daddy.

> > > >

> > >

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>

> , What sort of doses of adrenal cortex and vit C would you

> recommend for a child? BB's little boy is a very similar age to

Tom, if

> I remember rightly and Tom is nearly 6. I am positive that Tom

needs it.

> He is such a stressed little boy.

> Sara

>

Hi Sara,

Not , and she knows much more about this than I do, but ds is

very close in size to your son. As of late, ds has been struggling a

bit. I believe it was because I'd backed off some of his supps, esp

those for his adrenals. So, this is what we give him now for his

adrenals, daily:

800 mgs of Adrenal Cortex (all before supper)

6 mgs of Vitamin C (divided up, with meals)

Tons of the Bs, but especially B2, for a reason I've not quite

figured out. When I say tons, I mean, for example, more than 11,000%

of the DV of B2.

Chromium Picolinate (for blood sugar issues) this is one you don't

want to give too much of.

We will try to back down again from this, but it won't be soon I'm

afraid. When we first started addressing adrenals, over two years

ago now, we used even higher doses of adrenal cortex.

HTH,

Anita

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> >

> > B U M P

> >

> >

> > " Hi Anita

> > Did you have to gradually build up the doses?

> > I gave my son 500mg and he went ballistic, we have recently

> increased

> > to 50mg per day from 25 mg this is spread out over 3 -4 times per

> > day, I'm now wondering if this is too little? "

> >

> > Cheers

> > Kenny

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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--- Hi Kenny

" IME " means " in my experience "

Best Wishes

x

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>

> --- Hi Kenny

> " IME " means " in my experience "

> Best Wishes

> x

>

ooops, Sorry

Kenny