Re: How does our body heal?

[Guest guest]

The platlet factor isn't so good for me,on my blood work it is 81 it says normal

is130-400,can you get platlets put back in your system? I broke my wrist in June

and had to have surgery,and I am STILL very bruised from it and its been 6

months will it finally ever fade?

From: abijann <no_reply >

Subject: How does our body heal?

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:53 PM

This might help explain a few things, so it will be easier for

those to understand how coagulation takes place.

I've been asked alot about the platelets, factors, and the PT,

PTT, and INR testing done.

Let me draw you a slight picture so you will see how this

all goes together:

We have three types of blood cells that are listed on our

lab work. The RED blood Cells, the White blood cells, and

the PLatelets. The REd Blood Cells carry the oxygen, we take

in, throughout our bodies and gets rid of the Carbon dioxide.

The White blood cells is our immune system that fights off

anything that comes into our body that is foreign...like bacteria,

viruses, etc.

Now for the Platelets:

When a person develops a cut on their skin and it becomes an

open wound, The Platelets are what rushes to the site and

tries to plug the hole there. They look like little pieces

of cells instead of a whole cell because they are so small

in comparison to the other cells mentioned. When the

Platelets do this, they also release serotonin in the body

so that the blood vessels will constrict. This means that

the blood vessel try to close up more to prevent more blood

being lost. Great little things aren't they. In the

meantime, the Factors...that our liver makes...help the

blood to clot. With people who have cirrhosis, however,

since the liver cells are damaged---these factors are

decreased and they tend to bleed easier because the blood

will not form a clot. Understand? This is the first

process that takes place.

You can actually see the platelets, those little buggers,

trying to close up the hole, the closing up of the blood vessels

slightly so less blood goes through and the blood clotting from

the factors the liver has made.

When a person is cut, the time it takes the blood to form a

clot is called the Prothrombin time. This is known as PT on

your blood work. That is what the test shows. There are

different kinds of Factors made and they are numbered

FACTOR I, FACTOR II, etc. Using both the PT and the PTT, the doctors

can tell which factors may be missing because the liver isn't making

them. The INR is the International Range...it tells what the

normal range of a healthy person is for their blood time to clot

and our blood work can be in that range or an abnormal range of

being higher or lower than that.

The constriction of the blood vessels is only temporary. Our

immune system starts to respond and these blood vessels widen

then to let those white cells through. This is to keep any bacteria

that was on our skin and any others from going inside the

body and causing more harm.

Our body makes, what is called, Fibrin. Let's now picture a spider

making a lovely little web that shines when the light is on it. I

saw one, the other day, after it had rained and it was beautiful.

This is what it is like with Fibrin...it is like a spider rushes to

the opening and started to weave a net over the top of the opening

back and forth until the entire opening is connected from one side to

the other. You now have what you know pf,as a scab.

This scab will stay there until the opening is complete closed and

then fall off. There are enzymes that start to dissolve the

fibrin there so that it does this.

This is a very basic description. ..but I hope this helps you

understand more.

Low platelets can cause bleeding because they are not there to

try and plug up the hole in the skin. The liver not making

the appropriate amount of factors causes the blood to be thin

and run easily without clotting. Two very serious situations.

People who have cirrhosis of the liver tend to bleed and

bruise very easily. What is a real concern, is when varies

have formed in the esophagus that may open up. With low

platelets and clotting times not being there, it would not

take much for a person to bleed to death if the doctors

did not go in and stop the bleeding from these varies

right away. That is why any blood being thrown up, it

should be taken as a serious emergency and you should seek

medical attention immediately. The blood can look bright

red (meaning it is oxygenated), it can be purple in color

(meaning that the oxygen is less), or it can look like

coffee grounds (meaning it may be drying out)

Please take care of yourself...there is only one you.

[Guest guest]

Abijann,WOW you know your stuff,I'm glad your around,that was alot of

typing!!LOL! well i will do as i'm told and not dwell so much,I had banding of

my varicies 2 times now the most recent 8 months ago,had an infectious disease

Dr. that has done a biopsy to find I have type 1 HepC,and alcoholic cirrhosis

saw her last month and she has refered me to a new hepatologist and

gastroenlogist at the Cleveland clinic,now i know my meld is approx 14,I don't

think that helped my nerves....I've had HepC for approx.20-25yrs,and I've only

been sober 9 months but I am getting signatures from A.A. someone told me that

there husband had to show proof of attending for 3 months before they even would

consider putting him on the list,I have alot of faith that I can beat this. God

is good:) thanks for all your support & advice.Hugs,

From: abijann <no_reply >

Subject: How does our body heal?

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:53 PM

This might help explain a few things, so it will be easier for

those to understand how coagulation takes place.

I've been asked alot about the platelets, factors, and the PT,

PTT, and INR testing done.

Let me draw you a slight picture so you will see how this

all goes together:

We have three types of blood cells that are listed on our

lab work. The RED blood Cells, the White blood cells, and

the PLatelets. The REd Blood Cells carry the oxygen, we take

in, throughout our bodies and gets rid of the Carbon dioxide.

The White blood cells is our immune system that fights off

anything that comes into our body that is foreign...like bacteria,

viruses, etc.

Now for the Platelets:

When a person develops a cut on their skin and it becomes an

open wound, The Platelets are what rushes to the site and

tries to plug the hole there. They look like little pieces

of cells instead of a whole cell because they are so small

in comparison to the other cells mentioned. When the

Platelets do this, they also release serotonin in the body

so that the blood vessels will constrict. This means that

the blood vessel try to close up more to prevent more blood

being lost. Great little things aren't they. In the

meantime, the Factors...that our liver makes...help the

blood to clot. With people who have cirrhosis, however,

since the liver cells are damaged---these factors are

decreased and they tend to bleed easier because the blood

will not form a clot. Understand? This is the first

process that takes place.

You can actually see the platelets, those little buggers,

trying to close up the hole, the closing up of the blood vessels

slightly so less blood goes through and the blood clotting from

the factors the liver has made.

When a person is cut, the time it takes the blood to form a

clot is called the Prothrombin time. This is known as PT on

your blood work. That is what the test shows. There are

different kinds of Factors made and they are numbered

FACTOR I, FACTOR II, etc. Using both the PT and the PTT, the doctors

can tell which factors may be missing because the liver isn't making

them. The INR is the International Range...it tells what the

normal range of a healthy person is for their blood time to clot

and our blood work can be in that range or an abnormal range of

being higher or lower than that.

The constriction of the blood vessels is only temporary. Our

immune system starts to respond and these blood vessels widen

then to let those white cells through. This is to keep any bacteria

that was on our skin and any others from going inside the

body and causing more harm.

Our body makes, what is called, Fibrin. Let's now picture a spider

making a lovely little web that shines when the light is on it. I

saw one, the other day, after it had rained and it was beautiful.

This is what it is like with Fibrin...it is like a spider rushes to

the opening and started to weave a net over the top of the opening

back and forth until the entire opening is connected from one side to

the other. You now have what you know pf,as a scab.

This scab will stay there until the opening is complete closed and

then fall off. There are enzymes that start to dissolve the

fibrin there so that it does this.

This is a very basic description. ..but I hope this helps you

understand more.

Low platelets can cause bleeding because they are not there to

try and plug up the hole in the skin. The liver not making

the appropriate amount of factors causes the blood to be thin

and run easily without clotting. Two very serious situations.

People who have cirrhosis of the liver tend to bleed and

bruise very easily. What is a real concern, is when varies

have formed in the esophagus that may open up. With low

platelets and clotting times not being there, it would not

take much for a person to bleed to death if the doctors

did not go in and stop the bleeding from these varies

right away. That is why any blood being thrown up, it

should be taken as a serious emergency and you should seek

medical attention immediately. The blood can look bright

red (meaning it is oxygenated), it can be purple in color

(meaning that the oxygen is less), or it can look like

coffee grounds (meaning it may be drying out)

Please take care of yourself...there is only one you.

[Guest guest]

The last time I was in the hospital I got platlets before my renal biopsy.  I

think two units.....They nicked the kidney and ended up with two pints of

blood.  Kidney still gives me trouble.

Lyncia

 

In life family and friends take us on all kinds of adventures, God helps us

choose our path....Enjoy your journey!

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>

Subject: How does our body heal?

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:53 PM

This might help explain a few things, so it will be easier for

those to understand how coagulation takes place.

I've been asked alot about the platelets, factors, and the PT,

PTT, and INR testing done.

Let me draw you a slight picture so you will see how this

all goes together:

We have three types of blood cells that are listed on our

lab work. The RED blood Cells, the White blood cells, and

the PLatelets. The REd Blood Cells carry the oxygen, we take

in, throughout our bodies and gets rid of the Carbon dioxide.

The White blood cells is our immune system that fights off

anything that comes into our body that is foreign...like bacteria,

viruses, etc.

Now for the Platelets:

When a person develops a cut on their skin and it becomes an

open wound, The Platelets are what rushes to the site and

tries to plug the hole there. They look like little pieces

of cells instead of a whole cell because they are so small

in comparison to the other cells mentioned. When the

Platelets do this, they also release serotonin in the body

so that the blood vessels will constrict. This means that

the blood vessel try to close up more to prevent more blood

being lost. Great little things aren't they. In the

meantime, the Factors...that our liver makes...help the

blood to clot. With people who have cirrhosis, however,

since the liver cells are damaged---these factors are

decreased and they tend to bleed easier because the blood

will not form a clot. Understand? This is the first

process that takes place.

You can actually see the platelets, those little buggers,

trying to close up the hole, the closing up of the blood vessels

slightly so less blood goes through and the blood clotting from

the factors the liver has made.

When a person is cut, the time it takes the blood to form a

clot is called the Prothrombin time. This is known as PT on

your blood work. That is what the test shows. There are

different kinds of Factors made and they are numbered

FACTOR I, FACTOR II, etc. Using both the PT and the PTT, the doctors

can tell which factors may be missing because the liver isn't making

them. The INR is the International Range...it tells what the

normal range of a healthy person is for their blood time to clot

and our blood work can be in that range or an abnormal range of

being higher or lower than that.

The constriction of the blood vessels is only temporary. Our

immune system starts to respond and these blood vessels widen

then to let those white cells through. This is to keep any bacteria

that was on our skin and any others from going inside the

body and causing more harm.

Our body makes, what is called, Fibrin. Let's now picture a spider

making a lovely little web that shines when the light is on it. I

saw one, the other day, after it had rained and it was beautiful.

This is what it is like with Fibrin...it is like a spider rushes to

the opening and started to weave a net over the top of the opening

back and forth until the entire opening is connected from one side to

the other. You now have what you know pf,as a scab.

This scab will stay there until the opening is complete closed and

then fall off. There are enzymes that start to dissolve the

fibrin there so that it does this.

This is a very basic description. ..but I hope this helps you

understand more.

Low platelets can cause bleeding because they are not there to

try and plug up the hole in the skin. The liver not making

the appropriate amount of factors causes the blood to be thin

and run easily without clotting. Two very serious situations.

People who have cirrhosis of the liver tend to bleed and

bruise very easily. What is a real concern, is when varies

have formed in the esophagus that may open up. With low

platelets and clotting times not being there, it would not

take much for a person to bleed to death if the doctors

did not go in and stop the bleeding from these varies

right away. That is why any blood being thrown up, it

should be taken as a serious emergency and you should seek

medical attention immediately. The blood can look bright

red (meaning it is oxygenated), it can be purple in color

(meaning that the oxygen is less), or it can look like

coffee grounds (meaning it may be drying out)

Please take care of yourself...there is only one you.

[Guest guest]

Doctors can give you blood transfusions of platelets but from what I understand

is that platelets don't last very long. So they will only do this before a

procedure or to help you recover while you are in the hospital.

Vitamin K helps the clotting factor in the blood which may help with the

bruising. Foods high in Vitamin K are spinach, Brocoli, Brussels Sprouts, Kale,

Greens. Two table spoons of Parsley contain 153% of the recommended daily

allowance. Pretty much the darker the vegetable the more vitamin K it has.

I haven't seen Vitamin K supplements but I know it's given in the hospital. So

other than going to the doctor, the best way is through diet.

MaC

wendy miller wrote: The

platlet factor isn't so good for me,on my blood work it is 81 it says normal

is130-400,can you get platlets put back in your system? I broke my wrist in June

and had to have surgery,and I am STILL very bruised from it and its been 6

months will it finally ever fade?

[Guest guest]

 

You are doing so good.  Here in Texas, it is only 6 months.  Good luck on the

new doctors.

Lyncia

 

In life family and friends take us on all kinds of adventures, God helps us

choose our path....Enjoy your journey!

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>

Subject: How does our body heal?

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:53 PM

This might help explain a few things, so it will be easier for

those to understand how coagulation takes place.

I've been asked alot about the platelets, factors, and the PT,

PTT, and INR testing done.

Let me draw you a slight picture so you will see how this

all goes together:

We have three types of blood cells that are listed on our

lab work. The RED blood Cells, the White blood cells, and

the PLatelets. The REd Blood Cells carry the oxygen, we take

in, throughout our bodies and gets rid of the Carbon dioxide.

The White blood cells is our immune system that fights off

anything that comes into our body that is foreign...like bacteria,

viruses, etc.

Now for the Platelets:

When a person develops a cut on their skin and it becomes an

open wound, The Platelets are what rushes to the site and

tries to plug the hole there. They look like little pieces

of cells instead of a whole cell because they are so small

in comparison to the other cells mentioned. When the

Platelets do this, they also release serotonin in the body

so that the blood vessels will constrict. This means that

the blood vessel try to close up more to prevent more blood

being lost. Great little things aren't they. In the

meantime, the Factors...that our liver makes...help the

blood to clot. With people who have cirrhosis, however,

since the liver cells are damaged---these factors are

decreased and they tend to bleed easier because the blood

will not form a clot. Understand? This is the first

process that takes place.

You can actually see the platelets, those little buggers,

trying to close up the hole, the closing up of the blood vessels

slightly so less blood goes through and the blood clotting from

the factors the liver has made.

When a person is cut, the time it takes the blood to form a

clot is called the Prothrombin time. This is known as PT on

your blood work. That is what the test shows. There are

different kinds of Factors made and they are numbered

FACTOR I, FACTOR II, etc. Using both the PT and the PTT, the doctors

can tell which factors may be missing because the liver isn't making

them. The INR is the International Range...it tells what the

normal range of a healthy person is for their blood time to clot

and our blood work can be in that range or an abnormal range of

being higher or lower than that.

The constriction of the blood vessels is only temporary. Our

immune system starts to respond and these blood vessels widen

then to let those white cells through. This is to keep any bacteria

that was on our skin and any others from going inside the

body and causing more harm.

Our body makes, what is called, Fibrin. Let's now picture a spider

making a lovely little web that shines when the light is on it. I

saw one, the other day, after it had rained and it was beautiful.

This is what it is like with Fibrin...it is like a spider rushes to

the opening and started to weave a net over the top of the opening

back and forth until the entire opening is connected from one side to

the other. You now have what you know pf,as a scab.

This scab will stay there until the opening is complete closed and

then fall off. There are enzymes that start to dissolve the

fibrin there so that it does this.

This is a very basic description. ..but I hope this helps you

understand more.

Low platelets can cause bleeding because they are not there to

try and plug up the hole in the skin. The liver not making

the appropriate amount of factors causes the blood to be thin

and run easily without clotting. Two very serious situations.

People who have cirrhosis of the liver tend to bleed and

bruise very easily. What is a real concern, is when varies

have formed in the esophagus that may open up. With low

platelets and clotting times not being there, it would not

take much for a person to bleed to death if the doctors

did not go in and stop the bleeding from these varies

right away. That is why any blood being thrown up, it

should be taken as a serious emergency and you should seek

medical attention immediately. The blood can look bright

red (meaning it is oxygenated), it can be purple in color

(meaning that the oxygen is less), or it can look like

coffee grounds (meaning it may be drying out)

Please take care of yourself...there is only one you.

[Guest guest]

This is true MaC. I have a rare blood disorder called Glannzmann's

Thrombasthenia. It's a genetic platelet aggregation disorder. . It means I have

very normal platelet counts but they don't stick together. SOOOOOO, whenever I

have surgeries, (even a colonoscopy or EGD) or if I would get cut badly, I need

platelet transfusions. At times before, during and after surgeries, I've had as

many as 12 units of platelets. They don't work very long and within a short

period of time, my blood goes back to the way is always is. It's too bad,

because those transfusions are a pain!

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

The platlet factor isn't so good

for me,on my blood work it is 81 it says normal is130-400,can you get platlets

put back in your system? I broke my wrist in June and had to have surgery,and I

am STILL very bruised from it and its been 6 months will it finally ever

fade?