Re: Re: THE RIGHT TO HEALTHY INDOOR AIR

[Guest guest]

Normobaric oxygen (breathing oxygen enriched air) accelerates healing

from some diseases.

Its commonly used in hospitals and for people with lug diseases that

reduce their lung capacity.

Breathing air that has more oxygen than " normal " urban air air might

well help many people.

> New York City had oxygen bars where you could go for a drink and a

> nasal canula hook up to tanks under the bar for multiple patrons. As a

> way to get high for some... and no concept of the issues involved.

>

> Insanity.

>

> Barb Rubin

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>> Did you know that there are oxygen vending machines in Asia?

>> They are in very polluted urban areas.

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>> Terry Gilliam's dystopian sci-fi film " Brazil " depicted a privatized

>> air utility.

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>> *Scary*

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[Guest guest]

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First of all, Happy Holidays.

I question the validity of the following statement you made, "While breathing air that has more oxygen that “normal†urban air may be beneficial, it is the other crap in urban air that makes most people ill. Adding oxygen to the mix does nothing to limit or reduce the inhalation of the other crap; thus the root cause is not mitigated."

Based on what scientific studies are you concluding that

"Adding oxygen to the mix does nothing to limit or reduce the inhalation of the other crap."?

Doesn't adding oxygen change the mix of what people are breathing and thereby reduce the relevant dose of the other "crap"? (Not sure "relevant dose" is the correct term, but I think you know what I mean) Why else would they use increased oxygen in hospitals?

And, I am looking at something so beautiful out my office window today, I want to share it. See attached. We have had rains here in So Cal. Now the sun is out and there is a cool breeze. It is crisp, clean, fresh, circulating air. Love it!

Winter days like today are among my very favorite. If I could bottle this stuff and put it in buildings, I think there would be a lot more healthy people in the world.

Sharon Don't be the last to know - click here for the latest news that will have people talking.

[Guest guest]



LiveSimply

Extra oxygen can also increase lung damage, so there is a fine line between using the benefits of extra oxygen and paying the penalty for using extra oxygen (I get stuck with being forced to breathe extra oxygen with each hospital visit during severe angina attacks - they even supply it through plastic tubes that emit uncatalized monomer; this tubing costs less than the pre-flushed and washed tubing.

Jim H. White SSC

Re: Re: THE RIGHT TO HEALTHY INDOOR AIR

Normobaric oxygen (breathing oxygen enriched air) accelerates healingfrom some diseases.Its commonly used in hospitals and for people with lug diseases thatreduce their lung capacity.Breathing air that has more oxygen than "normal" urban air air mightwell help many people.On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM, agasaya <agasaya> wrote:> New York City had oxygen bars where you could go for a drink and a> nasal canula hook up to tanks under the bar for multiple patrons. As a> way to get high for some... and no concept of the issues involved.>> Insanity.>> Barb Rubin>> >>>> ,>>>> Did you know that there are oxygen vending machines in Asia?>> They are in very polluted urban areas.>>>> Terry Gilliam's dystopian sci-fi film "Brazil" depicted a privatized>> air utility.>>>> *Scary*>>>>

[Guest guest]

Quack:

Be careful what you ask for...too much of a good thing can be deadly. Oxygen is toxic in concentrations exceeding 40% by volume. Similarly, retinol and ergocalciferol are toxic, but beneficial in low/moderate doses. There is no such thing as a non-toxic chemical. While breathing air that has more oxygen that “normal” urban air may be beneficial, it is the other crap in urban air that makes most people ill. Adding oxygen to the mix does nothing to limit or reduce the inhalation of the other crap; thus the root cause is not mitigated.

Moreover, this discussion regarding a RIGHT to healthy indoor air is bunk! Define: healthy? When the mere definition of a word has ambiguities, therein lies fault and problem. What is healthy for me may not be healthy for you. Do we lower the health-bar to the lowest common denominator? There are folks that are more susceptible to bad stuff in the air than you. Do these folks constitute the threshold that determines what is healthy and what is not? There are folks that cannot breath outdoor air in a pristine, non-urban, environment, due to naturally-occurring stuff in the air. What is warranted then?...to provide these folks their “right?” The WHO would like nothing better than to make everyone equal, in wealth, health, and stature.....governed by a bunch of “more-knowledgeable” bureaucrats. The WHO is an organization that needs to be dealt with at arm’s length. While the WHO (and the United Nations for that matter) appears to be promoting “rights” they are doing so while also codifying individual rights, and limiting those rights to what THEY determine are in YOUR best interests. IMHO...I don’t like others, especially those from outside the U.S., telling me what my rights are, or telling me what is in my best interests. The WHO would serve us all better by focusing on their chartered mission, to mitigate world disease (e.g., polio, malaria, etc.), and stop politicizing individual rights.

For what it is worth....

Normobaric oxygen (breathing oxygen enriched air) accelerates healing

from some diseases.

Its commonly used in hospitals and for people with lug diseases that

reduce their lung capacity.

Breathing air that has more oxygen than " normal " urban air air might

well help many people.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM, agasaya <agasaya@... <mailto:agasaya%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

> New York City had oxygen bars where you could go for a drink and a

> nasal canula hook up to tanks under the bar for multiple patrons. As a

> way to get high for some... and no concept of the issues involved.

>

> Insanity.

>

> Barb Rubin

>

>

>>

>> ,

>>

>> Did you know that there are oxygen vending machines in Asia?

>> They are in very polluted urban areas.

>>

>> Terry Gilliam's dystopian sci-fi film " Brazil " depicted a privatized

>> air utility.

>>

>> *Scary*

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Air that contains distorted concentrations

of components of natural outdoor air (i.e. air found over oceans or large areas

of landscape isolated from the works of mankind) that are in concentrations

likely to cause health problems is polluted. This includes carbon

dioxide.

A small hermetically-sealed glass-lined room

full of people will quickly become polluted just from the occupants’

exhaled breath. The typical component reaching dangerous proportions is carbon

dioxide. We sometime see movies where people are buried alive in

coffins and manage to survive. One movie I saw showed the victim burning

a cigarette lighter and lived to tell about it! There is no way that a

person in such a situation can survive more than a few minutes.

Because of our concentration on saving

energy, designers have sometimes created sealed buildings without providing

adequate ventilation. Even building operators, in their quest to save

money, often stop running ventilation blowers originally designed into their

buildings.

Because air is odorless and invisible, we

tend to take it for granted. I have a difficult time trying to convince

my friends that breathable indoor air automatically implies a supply of fresh

outdoor air.

Norm

Gauss

From:

iequality [mailto:iequality ] On Behalf Of Geyer

Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008

10:22 AM

To: iequality

Subject: Re: Re: THE

RIGHT TO HEALTHY INDOOR AIR

Quack:

Be careful what you ask for...too much of a good thing can be deadly.

Oxygen is toxic in concentrations exceeding 40% by volume.

Similarly, retinol and ergocalciferol are toxic, but beneficial in

low/moderate doses. There is no such thing as a non-toxic chemical.

While breathing air that has more oxygen that “normal” urban

air may be beneficial, it is the other crap in urban air that makes most people

ill. Adding oxygen to the mix does nothing to limit or reduce the inhalation

of the other crap; thus the root cause is not mitigated.

Moreover, this discussion regarding a RIGHT to healthy indoor air is bunk!

Define: healthy? When the mere definition of a word has

ambiguities, therein lies fault and problem. What is healthy for me may

not be healthy for you. Do we lower the health-bar to the lowest common

denominator? There are folks that are more susceptible to bad stuff in

the air than you. Do these folks constitute the threshold that determines

what is healthy and what is not? There are folks that cannot breath

outdoor air in a pristine, non-urban, environment, due to naturally-occurring

stuff in the air. What is warranted then?...to provide these folks their

“right?” The WHO would like nothing better than to make

everyone equal, in wealth, health, and stature.....governed by a bunch of

“more-knowledgeable” bureaucrats. The WHO is an organization

that needs to be dealt with at arm’s length. While the WHO (and the

United Nations for that matter) appears to be promoting “rights”

they are doing so while also codifying individual rights, and limiting those

rights to what THEY determine are in YOUR best interests. IMHO...I

don’t like others, especially those from outside the U.S., telling

me what my rights are, or telling me what is in my best interests. The

WHO would serve us all better by focusing on their chartered mission, to

mitigate world disease (e.g., polio, malaria, etc.), and stop politicizing

individual rights.

For what it is worth....

On 12/26/08 2:19 PM, " LiveSimply " <quackadilliangmail>

wrote:

Normobaric oxygen (breathing oxygen enriched air) accelerates healing

from some diseases.

Its commonly used in hospitals and for people with lug diseases that

reduce their lung capacity.

Breathing air that has more oxygen than " normal " urban air air might

well help many people.

On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM, agasaya <agasaya <mailto:agasaya%40yahoo.com>

> wrote:

> New York City

had oxygen bars where you could go for a drink and a

> nasal canula hook up to tanks under the bar for multiple patrons. As a

> way to get high for some... and no concept of the issues involved.

>

> Insanity.

>

> Barb Rubin

>

>

>>

>> ,

>>

>> Did you know that there are oxygen vending machines in Asia?

>> They are in very polluted urban areas.

>>

>> Terry Gilliam's dystopian sci-fi film " Brazil " depicted a privatized

>> air utility.

>>

>> *Scary*

>>

>

>