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Hi Everyone

Another question. If Medicare becomes primary about two years after transplant

(Kidney) will Medicare then take over as primary payor for immunosuppressives

even though they were not primary payor at the time of the transplant? I am

having trouble with Stadtlanders getting paid in this situation. Has anyone else

had trouble with Stadtlanders or other pharmacies not sending out patients meds

because of unpaid balances?

Happy Holidays to all

Buccheri

hartford Transplant Program

Happy Holidays to all

>>> LAguiar@... 12/13/00 01:34PM >>>

hepatomas is a maligancy, but the challenge that I am being given is what if

the malignancy happen as a result of the hepatitis c, than would anyone know

if Medicare would or could this be a covered transplant. Has this scenario

happened to anyone.

[(Aguiar, )] Again, only if the HCC is an incidental finding @ the time

of tx (meaning the pathologist is overheard saying " Oh, look what I found "

while examining the explanted liver). If the pt has confirmed HCC pre-tx,

regardless of the etiology (i.e., HCV), that's not considered " incidental " .

Good question for the Medicare speaker in SLC, though, don't you think?

J. Aguiar

Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

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i agree, the problem is when the 36 or 44 months are up, then the EGHP will

be primary and everyone will be confused!!

RE: FW: Support

>

> Hi Everyone

>

> Another question. If Medicare becomes primary about two years after

> transplant (Kidney) will Medicare then take over as primary payor for

> immunosuppressives even though they were not primary payor at the time of

> the transplant? I am having trouble with Stadtlanders getting paid in this

> situation. Has anyone else had trouble with Stadtlanders or other

> pharmacies not sending out patients meds because of unpaid balances?

>

> Happy Holidays to all

> Buccheri

> hartford Transplant Program

>

> Happy Holidays to all

>

> >>> LAguiar@... 12/13/00 01:34PM >>>

> hepatomas is a maligancy, but the challenge that I am being given is what

> if

> the malignancy happen as a result of the hepatitis c, than would anyone

> know

> if Medicare would or could this be a covered transplant. Has this

> scenario

> happened to anyone.

> [(Aguiar, )] Again, only if the HCC is an incidental finding @ the

> time

> of tx (meaning the pathologist is overheard saying " Oh, look what I found "

> while examining the explanted liver). If the pt has confirmed HCC pre-tx,

> regardless of the etiology (i.e., HCV), that's not considered

> " incidental " .

>

>

> Good question for the Medicare speaker in SLC, though, don't you

> think?

>

> J. Aguiar

> Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I say yes that Medicare will be prime for the remainder of the 36 month

period, but no longer. But Stantlander should start to bill Medicare for

primary and not the patient.

Karla Christensen

> RE: FW: Support

>

> Hi Everyone

>

> Another question. If Medicare becomes primary about two years after

> transplant (Kidney) will Medicare then take over as primary payor for

> immunosuppressives even though they were not primary payor at the time of

> the transplant? I am having trouble with Stadtlanders getting paid in this

> situation. Has anyone else had trouble with Stadtlanders or other

> pharmacies not sending out patients meds because of unpaid balances?

>

> Happy Holidays to all

> Buccheri

> hartford Transplant Program

>

> Happy Holidays to all

>

> >>> LAguiar@... 12/13/00 01:34PM >>>

> hepatomas is a maligancy, but the challenge that I am being given is what

> if

> the malignancy happen as a result of the hepatitis c, than would anyone

> know

> if Medicare would or could this be a covered transplant. Has this

> scenario

> happened to anyone.

> [(Aguiar, )] Again, only if the HCC is an incidental finding @ the

> time

> of tx (meaning the pathologist is overheard saying " Oh, look what I found "

> while examining the explanted liver). If the pt has confirmed HCC pre-tx,

> regardless of the etiology (i.e., HCV), that's not considered

> " incidental " .

>

>

> Good question for the Medicare speaker in SLC, though, don't you

> think?

>

> J. Aguiar

> Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

>

>

>

>

>

>

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We also have had numerous issues with that particular drug company. But, there are a few others that are willing to work with the transplant patients. Very much like the old "S" used to be.

-----Original Message-----From: anne Buccheri Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 11:31 AMTo: LAguiar@...; TxFinancialCoordinatorsegroupsSubject: RE: FW: SupportHi EveryoneAnother question. If Medicare becomes primary about two years after transplant (Kidney) will Medicare then take over as primary payor for immunosuppressives even though they were not primary payor at the time of the transplant? I am having trouble with Stadtlanders getting paid in this situation. Has anyone else had trouble with Stadtlanders or other pharmacies not sending out patients meds because of unpaid balances? Happy Holidays to all Buccherihartford Transplant ProgramHappy Holidays to all>>> LAguiar@... 12/13/00 01:34PM >>>hepatomas is a maligancy, but the challenge that I am being given is what ifthe malignancy happen as a result of the hepatitis c, than would anyone knowif Medicare would or could this be a covered transplant. Has this scenariohappened to anyone.[(Aguiar, )] Again, only if the HCC is an incidental finding @ the timeof tx (meaning the pathologist is overheard saying "Oh, look what I found"while examining the explanted liver). If the pt has confirmed HCC pre-tx,regardless of the etiology (i.e., HCV), that's not considered "incidental". Good question for the Medicare speaker in SLC, though, don't you think? J. AguiarBeth Israel Deaconess, Boston

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I have had lengthy discussions with out transplant nurses and physicians

about Statlanders and the use of another pharmaceutical company. I have had

numerous problems with Statlanders and this is just on our liver patients.

Is anyone familiar with Sangstat and their pharmacy program?

Sandy

Cedars Sinai

RE: FW: Support

Hi Everyone

Another question. If Medicare becomes primary about two years after

transplant (Kidney) will Medicare then take over as primary payor for

immunosuppressives even though they were not primary payor at the time of

the transplant? I am having trouble with Stadtlanders getting paid in this

situation. Has anyone else had trouble with Stadtlanders or other pharmacies

not sending out patients meds because of unpaid balances?

Happy Holidays to all

Buccheri

hartford Transplant Program

Happy Holidays to all

>>> LAguiar@... 12/13/00 01:34PM >>>

hepatomas is a maligancy, but the challenge that I am being given is what if

the malignancy happen as a result of the hepatitis c, than would anyone know

if Medicare would or could this be a covered transplant. Has this scenario

happened to anyone.

[(Aguiar, )] Again, only if the HCC is an incidental finding @ the time

of tx (meaning the pathologist is overheard saying " Oh, look what I found "

while examining the explanted liver). If the pt has confirmed HCC pre-tx,

regardless of the etiology (i.e., HCV), that's not considered " incidental " .

Good question for the Medicare speaker in SLC, though, don't you think?

J. Aguiar

Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

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Sangstat Pharmacy Program~

There are two locations for " The Transplant Pharmacy "

1] The Transplant Pharmacy

Orlando, Florida

Telephone 888/296-6166

Fax 888/294-3955

Pharmacist: Caroline ext 5304

Customer Service: Judy O'Brien ext 5302

Lehman ext 5307

Pat Dearth ext 5316

2] The Transplant Pharmacy

Menlo Park, California

Telephone 888/800-7264

Fax 888/800-8322

Pharmacist: Alma Woo 888/800-7828

Customer Service: Rinehart

Of the above two locations, I like to use the Florida location & with

success. Both locations will research insurance benefits, provide

overnight delivery to the transplant facility before the patient's

transplant discharge in order to allow time for patient education

on drug management. But you need to make sure you initiate the

enrollment either before or at the time of the transplant and provide

the patient's demographic and insurance information. This allows

time for The Transplant Pharmacy for research and to make sure The

Transplant Pharmacy is in-network and can provide the service.

~

In addition, I use Stadtlanders with success. Again, it is important

that you provide Stadtlanders with complete patient demographic,

insurance and some clinical information, ie: date/type of dialysis

and diagnosis, etc.

Stadtlanders

Pittsburg, PA

Enrollment: Telephone 800/238-7828

Fax 800/221-0504

Pharmacy: Telephone 800/598-2136

Fax 800/426-9613

Bill Idle

> I have had lengthy discussions with out transplant nurses and

physicians

> about Statlanders and the use of another pharmaceutical company. I

have had

> numerous problems with Statlanders and this is just on our liver

patients.

>

> Is anyone familiar with Sangstat and their pharmacy program?

>

> Sandy

> Cedars Sinai

> RE: FW: Support

>

>

> Hi Everyone

>

> Another question. If Medicare becomes primary about two years after

> transplant (Kidney) will Medicare then take over as primary payor

for

> immunosuppressives even though they were not primary payor at the

time of

> the transplant? I am having trouble with Stadtlanders getting paid

in this

> situation. Has anyone else had trouble with Stadtlanders or other

pharmacies

> not sending out patients meds because of unpaid balances?

>

> Happy Holidays to all

> Buccheri

> hartford Transplant Program

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we have begun using a company called Chronimed, also with good results so far.

if you called them today with the pt's demographics and insurance info they

would do the research and let you know within an hour or two whether they could

service the pt. The patient would get his drugs the next day. They have more

than one service center but the one we use is in minnetonka, mn. The 800

number for their client relations manager there is and his name is

Steve .

Rusty Ward

Financial Coordinator Liver Transplant Program

haroldw@...

>>> widle@... 12/19 6:47 PM >>>

Sangstat Pharmacy Program~

There are two locations for " The Transplant Pharmacy "

1] The Transplant Pharmacy

Orlando, Florida

Telephone 888/296-6166

Fax 888/294-3955

Pharmacist: Caroline ext 5304

Customer Service: Judy O'Brien ext 5302

Lehman ext 5307

Pat Dearth ext 5316

2] The Transplant Pharmacy

Menlo Park, California

Telephone 888/800-7264

Fax 888/800-8322

Pharmacist: Alma Woo 888/800-7828

Customer Service: Rinehart

Of the above two locations, I like to use the Florida location & with

success. Both locations will research insurance benefits, provide

overnight delivery to the transplant facility before the patient's

transplant discharge in order to allow time for patient education

on drug management. But you need to make sure you initiate the

enrollment either before or at the time of the transplant and provide

the patient's demographic and insurance information. This allows

time for The Transplant Pharmacy for research and to make sure The

Transplant Pharmacy is in-network and can provide the service.

~

In addition, I use Stadtlanders with success. Again, it is important

that you provide Stadtlanders with complete patient demographic,

insurance and some clinical information, ie: date/type of dialysis

and diagnosis, etc.

Stadtlanders

Pittsburg, PA

Enrollment: Telephone 800/238-7828

Fax 800/221-0504

Pharmacy: Telephone 800/598-2136

Fax 800/426-9613

Bill Idle

> I have had lengthy discussions with out transplant nurses and

physicians

> about Statlanders and the use of another pharmaceutical company. I

have had

> numerous problems with Statlanders and this is just on our liver

patients.

>

> Is anyone familiar with Sangstat and their pharmacy program?

>

> Sandy

> Cedars Sinai

> RE: FW: Support

>

>

> Hi Everyone

>

> Another question. If Medicare becomes primary about two years after

> transplant (Kidney) will Medicare then take over as primary payor

for

> immunosuppressives even though they were not primary payor at the

time of

> the transplant? I am having trouble with Stadtlanders getting paid

in this

> situation. Has anyone else had trouble with Stadtlanders or other

pharmacies

> not sending out patients meds because of unpaid balances?

>

> Happy Holidays to all

> Buccheri

> hartford Transplant Program

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