Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 THE RIGHT TO HEALTHY INDOOR AIR: WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION From: Topix.Net, Aug. 24, 2008 http://www.precaution.org/lib/08/ht081224.htm#The_Right_To_Healthy_Indoor_Air_World_Health_Organization [introduction: This anonymous blog posting offers an interesting setof principles aimed at establishing a human right to clean indoor air. It is derived from a report on indoor air published by the WorldHealth Organization in 2000. The blog post says there is a longerarticle available on the web at http://twusea.org/blog/2008/08/22/the-right-to-healthy-indoor-air/ but the server at twusea.org doesnot respond. In any case, it's an interesting set of principles.] The principles below derive from the fundamental principles in thefields of human rights, biomedical ethics and ecologicalsustainability, and focus on interactions among them.Principles Principle 1 -- Under the principle of the human right to health,everyone has the right to breathe healthy indoor air. Principle 2 -- Under the principle of respect for autonomy ("self-determination"), everyone has the right to adequate information aboutpotentially harmful exposures, and to be provided with effective meansfor controlling at least part of their indoor exposures. Principle 3 -- Under the principle of non-maleficence ("doing noharm"), no agent at a concentration that exposes any occupant to anunnecessary health risk should be introduced into indoor air. Principle 4 -- Under the principle of beneficence ("doing good"), allindividuals, groups and organizations associated with a building,whether private, public, or governmental, bear responsibility toadvocate or work for acceptable air qualityfor the occupants. Principle 5 -- Under the principle of social justice, thesocioeconomic status of occupants should have no bearing on theiraccess to healthy indoor air, but health status maydetermine specialneeds for some groups. Principle 6 Under the principle of accountability, all relevantorganizations should establish explicit criteria for evaluating andassessing building air quality and its impact on the health of thepopulation and on the environment. Principle 7 -- Under the precautionary principle, where there is arisk of harmful indoor air exposure, the presence of uncertainty shallnot be used as a reason for postponing cost-effective measures toprevent such exposure. Principle 8 -- Under the "polluter pays" principle, the polluter isaccountable for any harm to health and /or welfare resulting fromunhealthy indoor air exposure(s). In addition, the polluter isresponsible for mitigation and remediation. Principle 9 -- Under the principle of sustainability, health andenvironmental concerns cannot be separated, and the provision ofhealthy indoor air should not compromise global or local ecologicalintegrity, or the rights of future generations. Document -- http://www.euro.who.int/document/e69828.pdfEasily add maps and directions to your online party invites. Click to learn how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 , Did you know that there are oxygen vending machines in Asia? They are in very polluted urban areas. Terry Gilliam's dystopian sci-fi film " Brazil " depicted a privatized air utility. *Scary* > THE RIGHT TO HEALTHY INDOOR AIR: WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION > > > > From: Topix.Net, Aug. 24, 2008 > > > http://www.precaution.org/lib/08/ht081224.htm#The_Right_To_Healthy_Indoor_Air_Wo\ rld_Health_Organization > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Indoor environmental pollution, at the point which it becomes a problem, is simply one of trespass on the bodies of individuals by pollutants. The problem with the principles elucidated is that they violate the right of property while weakening the rights against trespass, force and fraud. Principle 1 - Where does this right come from? How is it to be ensured,? Who is to ensure it? This violates private property. Principle 2 - While this affirms that fraud is in opposition to natural rights, again, the burden for this information is being placed entirely upon the property owner - what of other polluters? Principle 3 - Who enforces? Is it possible to keep out all pollutants? See #2 Principle 4 - How is this responsibility apportioned? Why is additional responsibility placed upon innocent building owners and innocent occupants? Principle 5 - This is meaningless. A building in an inner-city environment will have a higher pollutant load than a building in a pristine one. Should the inner-city building owner be forced to install a filtration system that the other owner is not? Principle 6 - What organizations does this refer to? Meaningless. Principle 7 - Who does this apply to? The owner? The tenant? The visitor? The janitor? Again, vague and meaningless. Principle 8 - Exactly who is " the polluter " in this scenario? In addition to the above, external factors cause pollution that makes its way into buildings. How is this " payment " to be apportioned? Principle 9 - Complete gibberish. None of the terms in the principle are defined. I propose, instead, two principles; Principle 1 - The building owner is responsible to determine all reasonable and appropriate actions to control the environment within his property; Principle 2 - The building owner is responsible to disclose any and all conditions within the building which may cause pollution trespass upon the bodies of building occupants. Vince Daliessio CIH > > > THE RIGHT TO HEALTHY INDOOR AIR: WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION > > From: Topix.Net, Aug. 24, 2008 > > http://www.precaution.org/lib/08/ht081224.htm#The_Right_To_Healthy_Indoor_Air_Wo\ rld_Health_Organization > [introduction: This anonymous blog posting offers an interesting setof principles aimed at establishing a human right to clean indoor air. > It is derived from a report on indoor air published by the WorldHealth Organization in 2000. The blog post says there is a longerarticle available on the web at http://twusea.org/blog/2008/08/22/the-right-to-healthy-indoor-air/ but the server at twusea.org doesnot respond. In any case, it's an interesting set of principles.] > The principles below derive from the fundamental principles in thefields of human rights, biomedical ethics and ecologicalsustainability, and focus on interactions among them.Principles > Principle 1 -- Under the principle of the human right to health,everyone has the right to breathe healthy indoor air. > Principle 2 -- Under the principle of respect for autonomy ( " self-determination " ), everyone has the right to adequate information aboutpotentially harmful exposures, and to be provided with effective meansfor controlling at least part of their indoor exposures. > Principle 3 -- Under the principle of non-maleficence ( " doing noharm " ), no agent at a concentration that exposes any occupant to anunnecessary health risk should be introduced into indoor air. > Principle 4 -- Under the principle of beneficence ( " doing good " ), allindividuals, groups and organizations associated with a building,whether private, public, or governmental, bear responsibility toadvocate or work for acceptable air qualityfor the occupants. > Principle 5 -- Under the principle of social justice, thesocioeconomic status of occupants should have no bearing on theiraccess to healthy indoor air, but health status maydetermine specialneeds for some groups. > Principle 6 Under the principle of accountability, all relevantorganizations should establish explicit criteria for evaluating andassessing building air quality and its impact on the health of thepopulation and on the environment. > Principle 7 -- Under the precautionary principle, where there is arisk of harmful indoor air exposure, the presence of uncertainty shallnot be used as a reason for postponing cost-effective measures toprevent such exposure. > Principle 8 -- Under the " polluter pays " principle, the polluter isaccountable for any harm to health and /or welfare resulting fromunhealthy indoor air exposure(s). In addition, the polluter isresponsible for mitigation and remediation. > Principle 9 -- Under the principle of sustainability, health andenvironmental concerns cannot be separated, and the provision ofhealthy indoor air should not compromise global or local ecologicalintegrity, or the rights of future generations. > Document -- http://www.euro.who.int/document/e69828.pdf > _________________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 New York City had oxygen bars where you could go for a drink and a nasal canula hook up to tanks under the bar for multiple patrons. As a way to get high for some... and no concept of the issues involved. Insanity. Barb Rubin > > , > > Did you know that there are oxygen vending machines in Asia? > They are in very polluted urban areas. > > Terry Gilliam's dystopian sci-fi film " Brazil " depicted a privatized > air utility. > > *Scary* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 I use oxygen medicinally but in the case I cited, it was simply a fad. And is not going to increase wellness in bar patrons plying themselves with alcohol :-) Oxygen use needs to be weighed pros/cons like any medication. It releases free radicals at a high rate but is beneficial and even essential when blood gasses indicate the cells aren't receiving their fair share of it. Prolonged use requires humidification and some degree of dilution, depending upon the liters per minute rate. Given under increased barometric pressure is also designed to deal with specific problems like wound healing, infections (including mycoplasma infections), increase brain function post trauma etc. Against that are risks to hearing and other functions. Of course, if the air we were breathing weren't so polluted, our abilities to utilize oxygen at normal levels wouldn't be compromised. Knowing the particular pollutants is quite important in order to gauge the appropriate remedies for damage being incurred (and fixing the problem at the source). The emphasis upon fixing the damaged person, versus the pollution source, just continues the cycle of illness. Barb Rubin =============================== > > New York City had oxygen bars where you could go for a drink and a > > nasal canula hook up to tanks under the bar for multiple patrons. As a > > way to get high for some... and no concept of the issues involved. > > > > Insanity. > > > > Barb Rubin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 > > Terry Gilliam's dystopian sci-fi film " Brazil " depicted a privatized > air utility. > > *Scary* Uh, no, the main thrust of " Brazil " was that everything was completely and incompetently controlled by the government, and that any private initiative to better it was labeled as " terrorism " ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(film) Vince Daliessio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 , The WHO may politicize health issues but that is the inevitable result of so many countries having permitted industry to commercialize them. Right now, the highest common denominator (to use your phrase) among humans determines at what point we are required to cease the misapplication of the Paracelsus concept (dose makes the poison). It makes no sense to determine at what point a normal, healthy adult male will become ill upon exposure to a pure substance under lab conditions. Reliance upon that same level of exposure when introducing toxicants into ambient environments, cannot be controlled for dosage actually received. You can control for the amount introduced to an environment but not its persistence, cumulative effects of the multiple routes of absorption (inhalation, ingestion, dermal absorption etc), combinatorial factors of multiple exposures occurring simultaneously, and the altered ability of the individual to continue tolerating the stress of exposure over time as toxicity effects diminish defenses and cause transient/permanent forms of damage. If you have ever followed the discussions of environmental medicine groups regarding at what point pregnant employees might be able to sue for prenatal damage to their fetuses, there is no surprise in the need to politicize the issue. After all, the government has delayed the implementation of the clean air act for how long now? There are rights involved which industry has meticulously stripped from citizens (let's not just relegate ourselves to the role of consumers), in hiding the ingredients of products from primary users and secondary (collateral) users. Ignorance is bliss - and less subject to liability. Right now industry determines how much poison we can be subjected to and medicine takes second place. The courts mediate and sometimes a slap on the wrist to industry alters practices. The issue of toxicity from medical intervention (including oxygen administration), is very well documented because exposure levels can be more easily controlled. It would be a mistake to transfer that science to the building trades when identification of toxicity responses cannot be adequately measured and conflicts of interest abound (just like pharmaceutical houses hide studies that reflect poorly upon THEIR products). All we can hope for at this point in time is complete disclosure of constituent chemicals in our products, accurate measurements of concentrations within enclosed spaces post applications, as measured over time, and assessment of residues/mixtures. As opposed to increasing liability of builders, it would lead to the discovery of the minimum amounts of such chemicals which are efficacious (versus convenient or profitable to produce in amounts which are not needed -e.g. formaldehyde) and the potential harm to consumers . People can then avoid such dangers or calculate appropriate re-entry times for occupying residences as primary consumers. Secondary consumers gain the benefit of studies which examine their danger levels as has been effectively done in second hand smoke legislation. The number of lives being saved through that is being well documented at this time,even by former naysayers from the AMA, as they examine significant reductions in fatalities in cardiovascular events. To assume change must be avoided in industry is to say we ought to all be driving Edsels, rather than have required Ford to begin making other options to that failure. Resistance to change has led the auto industry to disaster. I think WHO is clear on their interpretation of healthy air as requiring the reduction/elimination of contaminants. I don't think they are asking for us to somehow increase the amount of ambient oxygen. As for reducing disease, we are relatively free of malaria and polio here - yet our health is abominable and we can see the organ and biochemical damage that results from pollutants. Lifestyle does not account for the degree of cancer in many with healthy lifestyles and genetic mutations occur largely after birth from exposures according to the NIH. Inflammation is a major cause of disease - a condition generally induced through exposures. WHO actually set limits for residential levels of toxicants while the US government merely concentrated upon work environments and levels of releases from industry in communities (now undisclosed). Ignorance of our environment is the greatest threat to health. Biochemistry, if interrupted in its functioning by poisons, is an adverse effect whether or not the individual is aware of it. The growth of awareness of the ill effects infers some degree of damage has been taking place prior to that awareness. Disclosure might actually reduce litigation since pollution is not illegal. It is the damage from exposure, usually prolonged because of ignorance, which is actionable. Ignorance is actually more of a liability to industry than disclosure, unless amounts are ridiculously high...which is the inevitable result when efficacy defines the amount of a poison put into a product. It isn't efficacious if it renders spaces uninhabitable for the inhabitants it is designed to 'protect' from the elements. Back to WHO I guess...FWIW. Barb Rubin =========================== > > Quack: > > Be careful what you ask for...too much of a good thing can be deadly. > Oxygen is toxic in concentrations exceeding 40% by volume. Similarly, > retinol and ergocalciferol are toxic, but beneficial in low/moderate doses. > There is no such thing as a non-toxic chemical. While breathing air that > has more oxygen that ³normal² urban air may be beneficial, it is the other > crap in urban air that makes most people ill. Adding oxygen to the mix does > nothing to limit or reduce the inhalation of the other crap; thus the root > cause is not mitigated. > > Moreover, this discussion regarding a RIGHT to healthy indoor air is bunk! > Define: healthy? When the mere definition of a word has ambiguities, > therein lies fault and problem. What is healthy for me may not be healthy > for you. Do we lower the health-bar to the lowest common denominator? > There are folks that are more susceptible to bad stuff in the air than you. > Do these folks constitute the threshold that determines what is healthy and > what is not? There are folks that cannot breath outdoor air in a pristine, > non-urban, environment, due to naturally-occurring stuff in the air. What > is warranted then?...to provide these folks their ³right?² The WHO would > like nothing better than to make everyone equal, in wealth, health, and > stature.....governed by a bunch of ³more-knowledgeable² bureaucrats. The > WHO is an organization that needs to be dealt with at arm¹s length. While > the WHO (and the United Nations for that matter) appears to be promoting > ³rights² they are doing so while also codifying individual rights, and > limiting those rights to what THEY determine are in YOUR best interests. > IMHO...I don¹t like others, especially those from outside the U.S., telling > me what my rights are, or telling me what is in my best interests. The WHO > would serve us all better by focusing on their chartered mission, to > mitigate world disease (e.g., polio, malaria, etc.), and stop politicizing > individual rights. > > For what it is worth.... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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