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>> Any of you know anything

about this study? Any educated guesses about it? <<

You know what I've decided? There are studies and medical research out

there to support ANY and EVERY possible position on all nutritional

theories. I've gone through a lot of them myself, but in the end you

just have to settle on the one that YOUR body tells you is best for YOU.

I know when I have the most energy and the fewest health problems

because my body tells me so. And vegetarian or semi-vegetarian diets

just don't cut it for me! They exacerbate my low blood sugar problems

and increase my cravings for sugar to uncontrollable levels. Meat,

cheese, eggs, and veggies DON'T. Since my hubby is the same way, I will

assume that our children have inherited our proclivities and healthful

eating for them is the same as it is for us.

~ Carma ~

There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive

idiots. ~ Anonymous

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I agree! So how expert are the experts???

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From: Carma Paden

Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:37 AM

Subject: RE: soy research link

>> Any of you know anything

about this study? Any educated guesses about it? <<

You know what I've decided? There are studies and medical research out

there to support ANY and EVERY possible position on all nutritional

theories. I've gone through a lot of them myself, but in the end you

just have to settle on the one that YOUR body tells you is best for YOU.

I know when I have the most energy and the fewest health problems

because my body tells me so. And vegetarian or semi-vegetarian diets

just don't cut it for me! They exacerbate my low blood sugar problems

and increase my cravings for sugar to uncontrollable levels. Meat,

cheese, eggs, and veggies DON'T. Since my hubby is the same way, I will

assume that our children have inherited our proclivities and healthful

eating for them is the same as it is for us.

~ Carma ~

There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive

idiots. ~ Anonymous

Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/

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--- Carma Paden <carmapaden@...> wrote:

> You know what I've decided? There are studies and

> medical research out

> there to support ANY and EVERY possible position on

> all nutritional

> theories.

I agree, the more I read of " scientific " studies and

their interpretations, the more I realize how

subjective they are.

> but in the end you

> just have to settle on the one that YOUR body tells

> you is best for YOU.

> I know when I have the most energy and the fewest

> health problems

> because my body tells me so. And vegetarian or

> semi-vegetarian diets

> just don't cut it for me! They exacerbate my low

> blood sugar problems

Ditto. My energy levels are much more consistent on

this kind of diet, with animal protein and fat. And I

have less body fat than when I ate refined carbs, with

no appreciable difference in my activity level.

Every holiday visitor we've had has brought some kind

of sugary stuff or crunchy snack, and left it here.

As soon as this batch of visitors leaves (in-laws),

I'm going to pitch it all in the garbage. My in-laws

(who have been impervious to our efforts to improve

their diets) brought a big box full of commercial

baked goods. I was reading the ingredients, and the

first three listed on all except a loaf of sourdough

were white flour, sugar and partially hydrogenated

soybean or cottonseed oil, then a long list of

preservatives, artificial flavors, etc. I wonder if

they notice we're not eating it.

Aubin

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I don't see how it can be a question of what do the " experts " know.

If something is inherently bad for the body then what's the argument?

I did not see the post on soy, but question who did the research.

Research does not " prove " one way or the other if it is not conducted

well and/or interpreted with underlying bias. Re-reading the original

research on the Framington study about fat and heart disease is an

excellent example of how things get skewed for no reason at all.

Finally, there is enough research from the Weston A Price

organization to refute any positive claims regarding soy.

anne

> Hi all-

> I just posted a link to an article that supposedly

> shows that people fed soy formula as infants have no

> long-term health problems. Any of you know anything

> about this study? Any educated guesses about it?

> I've been turing my sister on to NT, and she's

> already reporting great results. Eating raw dairy is

> doing wonders for her chronic stomach problems. She

> says she can tell right away (pain) if she eats

> pasturized cheese.

> Lierre

>

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Almost any study can be set up to " prove " whatever its authors want it to

prove. If the results should not be " satisfactory " no one hears about it.

The Framingham Study, the darling of the medical establishment, could not

show any link between the cholesterol in the diet and the cholesterol in the

blood. In fact one of the directors stated that the more meat and

cholesterol people ate the healthier they were.

Judith Alta Kidder

Southwest Michigan

jaltak@...

-----Original Message-----

I don't see how it can be a question of what do the " experts " know.

If something is inherently bad for the body then what's the argument?

I did not see the post on soy, but question who did the research.

Research does not " prove " one way or the other if it is not conducted

well and/or interpreted with underlying bias. Re-reading the original

research on the Framington study about fat and heart disease is an

excellent example of how things get skewed for no reason at all.

Finally, there is enough research from the Weston A Price

organization to refute any positive claims regarding soy.

anne

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