Re: Re: Paracetamol plus ibuprofen for the treatment of fe...[BMJ. 2008] - PubMed Result

[Guest guest]

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I was talking pain and you were talking

fever. However, I just wanted to point out the relief I have had without

resorting to tylenol etc.

JULIE GRIFFITHS schrieb:

>

> Margaret,

> Speaking as a person who was in almighty pain for over a year and a

> half, I do know the value of pain relievers. I tried every pain relief

> measure known to man but I stopped at at morphine and chronic pain

> relief because I was afraid of long-term damage to my liver and psyche.

> It was after 15 long months of pain that I turned to homeopathy and

> within 7 days the pain was gone. Had I had the presence of mind to

> pursue that angle earlier I would have saved myself a lot of anguish. So

> I suggest to everyone here, try homeopathy first and if that has failed,

> then go to the big guns....homeoparthy works well in fevers also.

>

>

>

> mcollins2001uk schrieb:

> >

> > That's what I thought, ; I wouldn't want to frighten people off

> > using other anti-pyretics - sometimes they are necessary. Thank you,

> > Margaret

> > (PS tylenol is US name for paracetamol.)

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish they would try homeopathy before these heavy duty pain-

> > > > killers on

> > > > > children.

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?>

> > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?>>

> > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?>

> > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?>>>

> > > >

> > ordinalpos=3 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pu

> > > > bmed_RVDocSum

> > > > >

> > > > > Half of all liver translplants comes from over-dosing of pain-

> > > > killers.

> > > > > (source: Oxford's Handbook of Clinical Medicine)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>

> > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>>

> > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>

> > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>>>

> > > >

> > ordinalpos=1 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pu

> > > > bmed_RVDocSum

> > > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>

> > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>>

> > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>

> > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>>>

> > > >

> > ordinalpos=1 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pu

> > > > bmed_RVDocSum>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > These are the results for all kids in the latest research.

> > The NHS

> > > > > > advice is apparently to use just ibuprofen for all kids and

> > not

> > > > to use a

> > > > > > mixture (as suggested as a possibility here) because it is

> > > > confusing and

> > > > > > a mistake in timing would be dangerous.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sally

> > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Margaret,

You seem to have tried homeopathy out and that's all I suggested, try

this as a frst line of therapy and then if it fails, go to the others.

I usuually work out my own remedies using www.abchomeopathy.com. For

example my older dog has been very apathetic lately but passing chalky

white crumbling stools since months. I found the remedy 'Calc Car' and

after two days her stools are back to a normal color. The remedy cost me

just a few quid.

In any case, I respect your opinion....

:-)))

mcollins2001uk schrieb:

>

> Dear ,

> I tried homeopathy for Henry when he was a baby - we went to a

> qualified practitioner. As far as I could tell the remedies had

> absolutely no effect. Mothers around me were also swearing by

> chamomilla teething powders but they were useless for Henry.

>

> We also tried acupuncture and chinese herbal medicine for Henry( a

> practitioner with several decades of experience) and again, there was

> no change or reaction. The acupuncturist said to stop because it

> wasn't working.

>

> My own acupuncturist told me of a homeopath he knew who had a high

> reputation with other homeopaths and he was asked to train others. He

> decided, however, to give up homeopathy all together because he was

> not satisfied with the results he was getting using this method.

>

> My personal take on homeopathy is that I think I have seen it work

> twice (once on a screaming teething baby and once on inflammation

> caused by bed bug bites) but I have tried several practitioners over

> the years with nil effect, except on my wallet. Some have used the

> Bach flower remedies as well, again absolutely no effect except on my

> bank balance. I think part of the problem is that, even if there is

> something in homeopathy that can work sometimes and it isn't just

> wishful thinking, the process of finding the remedy required is

> incredibly hit and miss, based on question and answer and not on

> examination or testing and also my guess is that the success of

> homeopathy would be very dependent on the vitality of the patient.

>

> In contrast I have found both acupuncture and chinese herbal medicine

> helpful for me (also Western herbalism). I like acupuncture because

> the practitioner can read a lot about the patient from the skilled

> readings of the qualities of the pulse; they also take account of the

> patients' smell and colours of the skin. Herbal medicine is more

> material than homeopathy ie you are getting real doses of the actual

> substances rather than a " memory " ie no molecules and my guess is it

> would work on less well people.

>

> I don't want to start a spat. I am just expressing my personal doubts

> about homeopathy, based on my experience.

>

> Margaret

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I wish they would try homeopathy before these heavy duty

> pain-

> > > > > killers on

> > > > > > children.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?>

> > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?>>

> > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?>

> > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17023947?>>>

> > > > >

> > >

> ordinalpos=3 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pu

> > > > > bmed_RVDocSum

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Half of all liver translplants comes from over-dosing of

> pain-

> > > > > killers.

> > > > > > (source: Oxford's Handbook of Clinical Medicine)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Eva family schrieb:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>

> > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>>

> > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>

> > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>>>

> > > > >

> > >

> ordinalpos=1 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pu

> > > > > bmed_RVDocSum

> > > > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>

> > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>>

> > > > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>

> > > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?

> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18765450?>>>

> > > > >

> > >

> ordinalpos=1 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pu

> > > > > bmed_RVDocSum>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > These are the results for all kids in the latest research.

> > > The NHS

> > > > > > > advice is apparently to use just ibuprofen for all kids

> and

> > > not

> > > > > to use a

> > > > > > > mixture (as suggested as a possibility here) because it is

> > > > > confusing and

> > > > > > > a mistake in timing would be dangerous.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sally

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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