RE: Specific Carbohydrate Diet

[Guest guest]

I liked the SCD book too, but haven't tried it. I think it would be

useful as a healing diet, which is how she intends it to be used, but

then instead of returning to the standard denatured-food diet (as she

says you can do), go to eating only soaked grains and cultured dairy. I

am sensitive to gluten, but found that I can eat oatmeal when I soak

with whey overnight and it doesn't give me problems (a lot of people

with gluten sensitivity can't eat oats).

~ Carma ~

To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually

ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured,

and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell

Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/

[Guest guest]

--- In @y..., " beckymauldin2001 " <beckymauldin@h...>

wrote:

> People have eaten grain in the past with NO problems!!

> It HAS to be the preparation that makes the difference, right?

Hi Becky:

Nope. The grain isn't the same as it used to be in two ways. I am

sure that most of the grain grown is genetically modified by

hybridization. One might question this genetic modification along

with the current cross species genetic modification. The reason for

creating hybrids has been yield, even when the total nutritional

value of the crop declines. The second reason that grain isn't the

same is declining soil fertility. When soil fertility declines,

nutrition declines before yields are reduced.

Chi

[Guest guest]

Is there a book out there by this name? Could someone tell who the author is.

What does this diet entail?

Shari

----- Original Message -----

From: beckymauldin2001

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:03 PM

Subject: Specific Carbohydrate Diet

It seems that there are a few folks on this list that are on the SCD

diet or have family members on it. My husband started having

gastrointestinal trouble and is developing food allergies and I have

recently put him on this diet. He does not have any diagnosed

disease, just minor irritating symptoms. He is doing much better,

however I am starting to think that it's the preparation of the food

that has given him the problems in the past. For instance, if the

digestability of cow's milk can be totally enhanced by culturing the

milk for 24 hours so all the lactose is gone, why wouldn't grains

that are soaked for a longer time or sprouted to the point where the

starch and gluten are gone be as beneficial? I'm about to try

experimenting with this to see what he can handle, like soaking the

grains in my homemade yogurt for a full 24 hours in a warmer place,

and sprouting and dehydrating grains. People have eaten grain in the

past with NO problems!! It HAS to be the preparation that makes the

difference, right? In Elaine Gotteshall's book, she makes the

comment that even healthy people have a very hard time digesting

gluten and starches, so it makes sense that the soaking would have to

help. Is there a point where the starch and gluten are totally broken

down into an easy to digest form?

So, for those of you on this diet, have to tried introducing NT

prepared grains?? What was the outcome?

Also, I'd like to make other cultured milk products besides yogurt,

but how do I know when the lactose is gone (how long should I culture

things like Piima or Villi?)

Becky

[Guest guest]

The book that explains this diet is called Breaking the Vicious

Cycle, by Elaine Gottschall. Go to Amazon.com and read the reviews

folks have written for more info. This diet is for any

gastrointestinal disease or disorder, even candida and has a very

high success rate. You avoid certain starches and carbs, and eat a

mostly Paleolithic type diet. Go to www.healingcrow.com for more

particulars...

Becky

> Is there a book out there by this name? Could someone tell who the

author is. What does this diet entail?

> Shari

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: beckymauldin2001

> @y...

> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:03 PM

> Subject: Specific Carbohydrate Diet

>

>

> It seems that there are a few folks on this list that are on the

SCD

> diet or have family members on it. My husband started having

> gastrointestinal trouble and is developing food allergies and I

have

> recently put him on this diet. He does not have any diagnosed

> disease, just minor irritating symptoms. He is doing much

better,

> however I am starting to think that it's the preparation of the

food

> that has given him the problems in the past. For instance, if

the

> digestability of cow's milk can be totally enhanced by culturing

the

> milk for 24 hours so all the lactose is gone, why wouldn't grains

> that are soaked for a longer time or sprouted to the point where

the

> starch and gluten are gone be as beneficial? I'm about to try

> experimenting with this to see what he can handle, like soaking

the

> grains in my homemade yogurt for a full 24 hours in a warmer

place,

> and sprouting and dehydrating grains. People have eaten grain in

the

> past with NO problems!! It HAS to be the preparation that makes

the

> difference, right? In Elaine Gotteshall's book, she makes the

> comment that even healthy people have a very hard time digesting

> gluten and starches, so it makes sense that the soaking would

have to

> help. Is there a point where the starch and gluten are totally

broken

> down into an easy to digest form?

>

> So, for those of you on this diet, have to tried introducing NT

> prepared grains?? What was the outcome?

>

> Also, I'd like to make other cultured milk products besides

yogurt,

> but how do I know when the lactose is gone (how long should I

culture

> things like Piima or Villi?)

>

> Becky

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In addition to the amazon and healing crow sites, you can visit

http://www.scdiet.org

and

http://www.scdiet.com

My daughter has been on the specific carbohydrate diet for almost three

years. She has the " worst " form of Crohn's disease: perforation without

warning (think peritonitis, shock, and rapid death) - but has had no

problems on the SCD and taking an immune suppressant since two emergency

surgeries three years ago. Normally the immune suppressant alone does not

give these results and it was expected that she'd be in surgery more often

than once a year. Swimming also helps.

My daughter looks like a million dollars and is living an active, full,

successful 17-year-old life in every way. She has no desire to change from

the SCD. She does most of her own cooking. She's been accepted at CalTech

and MIT, both of which have kitchens in their dormitories.

There is a lot of overlap between the SCD and NT and if my daughter were to

leave the SCD, it would be to the NT way of cooking if at all possible. In

fact, we learned about NT on the SCD mailing list.

But if a person only has vague symptoms I think they would be more likely to

stray from the strict SCD. People want to know why they have the symptoms

and sometimes there wasn't anything they could do about it: they were just

victims, of heredity or environment or both. Autoimmune diseases such as

Crohn's and cancers are triggered by things that we usually have no control

over. The SCD alleviates the symptoms of inflammatory bowel disease and

celiac disease, promoting healing and preventing bowel deterioration by

nourishing the body effectively, and allows the sufferer to live a wonderful

full life, but it does not (usually) cure the disease. But if you are

living a wonderful full life, what more can you ask?

I think that one of the best things about SCD and NT is that everything that

enters your mouth is nourishing and everything is absorbed. No poisons or

" fud, " as I call fake food, are eaten to damage the body or take up valuable

space, so one just becomes healthier and healthier. People with

inflammatory bowel disease just need the SCD because that diet is even

easier to absorb through damaged intestines.

Good health to all,

> From: " beckymauldin2001 " <beckymauldin@...>

> Subject: Specific Carbohydrate Diet

> So, for those of you on this diet, have to tried introducing NT

> prepared grains?? What was the outcome?

> Becky

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for responding.

the child i'm referring to is also high functioning - an ausperger's

sydrome child. his poor mother has been going in circles trying to

come up with a *diet* he can thrive on. the child, max, has major

leaky gut symptoms which are undoubtedly hampering any major

improvements in behavior.

he's been casein/gluten free for some time now with no noticeable,

long term improvement. a look at his diet shows he's quite deficient

in fats so obviously my goal is to have mom incorporate more

healthy, animal and tropical fats (although she swears he screams

after eating coconut!??) into the diet.

let me know if you have any other suggestions!

thanks again,

erica z

> I don't know how that diet goes for autism. The normal

recommendation is to go gluten-free and casein-free. I know there is

a (or maybe several) lists for that.

>

> It could also depend on how mild the autism is. My son has been

found to have some characteristics of Asperger's Syndrome (AKA high-

functioning autism). We have been able to greatly reduce refined

foods, colours, preservatives, etc. I also noticed that 99.99% of

his violent outbursts were when his blood-sugar was low, so regular

meals, reducing sugars/whites and balancing carbs with protein and

fat has really helped. I found out about going gluten and casein

free after we had made the other changes, and the changes we made

were traumatic enough because he was in a very bad way (behaviour

wise) at the time. He's doing really well now, and I'm sure he'd do

even better without the gluten and casein, but I think we'll leave

it at that for now. I will soon be moving to a large block where I

can grow lots of food, including having a goat or two for milk, and

will be moving towards more NT food, so things should only get

better.

>

> Cheers,

> Tas'.

>

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