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This is a Christmas Tree

This is a Christmas Tree

This is a Christmas Tree

This is a Christmas Tree

This is a Christmas Tree

This is a Christmas Tree

and these are Christmas Trees also

These are NOT Holiday Trees

They are not Hanukkah bushes

They are not Allah plants

They are Christmas trees. Say it...

CHRISTmas, CHRISTmas, CHRISTmasYes CHRISTmas - not Holiday

We are NOT celebrating the birth of a Holiday!!!

We are

Celebrating the Birth of

Jesus Christ!!!

So I would like to say to each and everyone of you

Have a Very Merry CHRISTMAS

and may GOD BLESS each and every one of you!!!

Take a stand and pass this on !!

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-I am curious what this has to do with Down syndrome and also, how

welcoming would this be to a new parent who is looking for a group to

help her when she is overwhelmed by a new baby or a new prenatal

diagnosis and is looking for information, support and a community of

friends if she happened to be Jewish or Muslim or another religion.

Is this a Christian-only site? Aren't there plently of websites to

promote a Christian-only perspective?

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> This is a Christmas Tree

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> and these are Christmas Trees also

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> These are NOT Holiday Trees

> They are not Hanukkah bushes

> They are not Allah plants

> They are Christmas trees.

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> Say it...

> CHRISTmas, CHRISTmas, CHRISTmas

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> Yes CHRISTmas - not Holiday

> We are NOT celebrating the birth of a Holiday!!!

> We are

> Celebrating the Birth of

> Jesus Christ!!!

> So I would like to say to each and everyone of you

> Have a Very Merry CHRISTMAS

> and may GOD BLESS each and every one of you!!!

>

> Take a stand and pass this on !!

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This list was never intended to be *only* about Ds. As we

have said before, Carol, and I started this list because we were tired of

being told that we couldn’t say certain things on other lists, and we

wanted a place where adults could calmly discuss a lot of different topics. So

far, that concept is working pretty well, I think. One thing for sure is that we

never intended to have it be was politically correct;-)

No, people don’t have to be Christians in order to be a

member of this list, but we can and do and will talk about topics from a

Christian viewpoint from time to time. If people aren’t comfortable with

that, there are a lot (probably the vast majority) of lists where such topics

are not allowed, so it shouldn’t be hard for parents to find other

sources of information and support if they have a problem with our list. People

from all religions are welcome here, but I (for one) am not going to compromise

what I believe to be true just because other people might choose to be offended

by Christianity.

The plain fact of the matter is, those pictures WERE pictures of

Christmas trees..so why is it wrong to say that? No one was saying that those

other religions can’t have their own holiday celebrations and

traditions, just that *that* particular item is a “Christmas”

tree.

In the interest of full disclosure;-) my family does not

celebrate Christmas…but that email did not offend me, and I honestly don’t

see why it has to be an issue.

People always have the option to just delete messages.

KathyR

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Subject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Christmas Trees

-I am curious what this has to do with Down

syndrome and also, how

welcoming would this be to a new parent who is looking for a group to

help her when she is overwhelmed by a new baby or a new prenatal

diagnosis and is looking for information, support and a community of

friends if she happened to be Jewish or Muslim or another religion.

Is this a Christian-only site? Aren't there plently of websites to

promote a Christian-only perspective?

-- In DownSyndromeInfoExchange ,

wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> This is a Christmas Tree

>

>

> This is a Christmas Tree

>

> This is a Christmas Tree

>

> This is a Christmas Tree

>

> This is a Christmas Tree

>

> This is a Christmas Tree

>

> and these are Christmas Trees also

>

>

> These are NOT Holiday Trees

> They are not Hanukkah bushes

> They are not Allah plants

> They are Christmas trees.

>

> Say it...

> CHRISTmas, CHRISTmas, CHRISTmas

>

> Yes CHRISTmas - not Holiday

> We are NOT celebrating the birth of a Holiday!!!

> We are

> Celebrating the Birth of

> Jesus Christ!!!

> So I would like to say to each and everyone of you

> Have a Very Merry CHRISTMAS

> and may GOD BLESS each and every one of you!!!

>

> Take a stand and pass this on !!

>

>

>

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This bothers me too. I know that people lean heavily on their faith

and beliefs, but there has to be room for ALL believers of all kinds.

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> -I am curious what this has to do with Down syndrome and also, how

> welcoming would this be to a new parent who is looking for a group to

> help her when she is overwhelmed by a new baby or a new prenatal

> diagnosis and is looking for information, support and a community of

> friends if she happened to be Jewish or Muslim or another religion.

> Is this a Christian-only site? Aren't there plently of websites to

> promote a Christian-only perspective?

>

>

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What a handsome young man!

I sure will tell him......Not sure if picture attachments are allowed, but

> I am going to try...If it goes through, this is my and his 2 sisters

> and brother....... Ann, s Gram

> Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Christmas Trees

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> ....I know I do not need to say anything more but I just finished

> talking to my grandson,, who has ds, and told him about the

> Christmas tree email I sent and your reply......Well, here is his reply

> to you.....

> I am and Christmas is baby Jesus` birthday.... ..Its important to

> me and I have ds so THATS what it has to do with ds.....if a mom came

> here cause her new baby had ds she wouldnt be mad about a Christmas

> tree,and she would probably know it was His birthday.... From M.

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No one said there's no room for all believers, did they? (Asking seriously here - I'm not getting all the posts for some reason.) Just that those are CHRISTMAS trees. The point is that political correctness, especially towards anything Christian, has gotten ridiculous.

Shari

This bothers me too. I know that people lean heavily on their faith

and beliefs, but there has to be room for ALL believers of all kinds.

>

> -I am curious what this has to do with Down syndrome and also, how

> welcoming would this be to a new parent who is looking for a group to

> help her when she is overwhelmed by a new baby or a new prenatal

> diagnosis and is looking for information, support and a community of

> friends if she happened to be Jewish or Muslim or another religion.

> Is this a Christian-only site? Aren't there plently of websites to

> promote a Christian-only perspective?

>

>

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Beautiful family!

I sure will tell him......Not sure if picture attachments are allowed, but I am going to try...If it goes through, this is my and his 2 sisters and brother....... Ann, s Gram

Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Christmas Trees

....I know I do not need to say anything more but I just finished talking to my grandson,, who has ds, and told him about the Christmas tree email I sent and your reply......Well, here is his reply to you.....

I am and Christmas is baby Jesus` birthday.... ..Its important to me and I have ds so THATS what it has to do with ds.....if a mom came here cause her new baby had ds she wouldnt be mad about a Christmas tree,and she would probably know it was His birthday.... From M._

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We LOVE pictures here!!And he is as handsome as he is smart. :-)You have lots to brag about, Grandma! Carol in ILMom to , 8 DS My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/ http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusicFrom: "jkmantin@..." To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 7:47:22 PMSubject: Re: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Christmas Trees

I sure will tell him......Not sure if picture attachments are allowed, but I am going to try...If it goes through, this is my and his 2 sisters and brother..... .. Ann, s Gram

Re: [DownSyndromeInfoEx change] Re: Christmas Trees

....I know I do not need to say anything more but I just finished talking to my grandson,, who has ds, and told him about the Christmas tree email I sent and your reply......Well, here is his reply to you.....

I am and Christmas is baby Jesus` birthday.... ..Its important to me and I have ds so THATS what it has to do with ds.....if a mom came here cause her new baby had ds she wouldnt be mad about a Christmas tree,and she would probably know it was His birthday.... From M._

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And why are you assuming there isn't room for others here? Carol in ILMom to , 8 DS My problem is not how I look. It's how you see me.Join our Down Syndrome information group - http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ DownSyndromeInfo Exchange/ http://downsyndromeinfoexchange.blogspot.com/Listen to oldest dd's music http://www.myspace.com/vennamusicFrom: mosaicbymoe To: DownSyndromeInfoExchange Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2008 10:46:58 PMSubject: [DownSyndromeInfoExchange] Re: Christmas Trees

This bothers me too. I know that people lean heavily on their faith

and beliefs, but there has to be room for ALL believers of all kinds.

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