Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 , Nowhere in any of my statements did I try to push plyometrics or olympic lifting on anyone. I simply used documented research, articles and a website from the most respected governing body regarding strength and condtitioning. I used very little anecdotal evidence that plyometrics and olympic lifting are beneficial. I never made a blanket comment that certain movements are for everyone. Even though proper form and technique go a long way. The bottom line is if you are doing them incorrectly you will get hurt. A logical conclusion that you have suffered minor chronic injuries as you say from plyometrics is that you employed improper technique. [Mod: Dr Yessis has noted rather nicely: " There are many people who use the same terminology but yet in practice, it looks completely different. For example, many people use the term plyometrics very loosely today. Their practice of plyometrics is far from my practice of plyometrics. Thus, even though we use the same term, it does not mean we are both doing the same thing. This is why I believe we must first define our terms before discussing them. Giving examples to further explain the terminology would also be very beneficial. " *Over to the members!] Casey Gallagher CSCS Lynwood, Washington > > Thank you . This is the last time I'm going to respond to this, Casey. > > ONE more time, I used good technique AND I'm well coached in OL. And I've > coached male powerlifters at nationals too. I've been competing PL 9 years. > I started year one at the national level and I've done several world > championships. So I'm far from being a dreadful athlete overall...I'm a > pretty lean big woman too, and my lifts are going up again despite having > been in the sport 9 years already. > > So quit trying to tell me that I did not use proper technique in OL! By the > way, my FIRST OL Instructor was MEL SIFF. Think MEL would have let me do > cleans or snatches with bad form? Guess again! I think can also > comment on Mel's training habits for OL'ers....and Mel was a world class > OL'er. Very simply, the man would not have let me pick up the BAR with bad > form! The same applies to my CURRENT OL coach! > > So quit trying to tell me that 1. I used bad OL form. I didn't. and 2. > plyos are great for my particular knee problem. They're not. And I'm going > nowhere near a box jump, good heavens. Not unless I want to be off the back > squat for a month! Wouldn't go near a wobbly board or whoopie cushion > either, same reason! > > I am though employing some strongman moves in my training lately, and > strongman and PL are much closer in the max strength applications than OL > really. > > Mel and I had some long talks about program formation, and the feeling that > there is no grand unifying theory of programs. One program does not fit > all, and applying plyos to EVERYONE simply is not correct either! I'm not > " making your point for you " . Quit trying to push plyos on everyone > universally, and remember that if one is unable to perform the sport merely > from doing something in the name of fad, then you are not training for your > sport properly. Proper form in plyos cannot prevent them from aggravating > previous injuries, regardless of the intent in performing them. If you are > gaining on your lifts and succeeding in the performance of your sport, my > advice is to NOT chase the fads, but continue as you are. If it ain't > broke, stop trying to fix it! > > And Good Luck in the OL world. Perhaps I'll see you at an OL worlds > (masters of course) someday....despite my lack of a great vertical leap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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