Re: Ciguatera and Mannitol

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Sorry I wasted y'all's time with this. Shoemaker responded almost

immediately saying that mannitol IV did not work even on accute

ciguatera poisoning in a double blind study. He also said that the

method of action of ciguatera and babesia was not the same. So much

for IV manitol.

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> Lyme Angel sent a post today on IV mannitol for ciguatera poisoning.

> She asked if this might not work to treat babesia since she said

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> babesia has " an epicoplast that is evolved from cyanobacteria and

> for all we know releases a similar toxin. " I am sending this concept

> here to see if anyone is familar with the use of IV mannitol for

cfs?

> (I don't know if this would have any connection to why Ambertose

> works for some people since it is not IV.)

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> http://www.phoenix-cfs.org/The%20SITE/ChannelopathyCFS.htm

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> CIGUATERA TOXIN AND A CHANNELOPATHY IN CFS

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> Hokama, Y., Shirai, B, Wang, C., Chun, K., Higa, N., Suma, C., Uto,

> G., Enlander, D. and A Coccheto. 2002. Acute Phase Lipids in Sera of

> Various Disease; Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Ciguatera and Varioius

> Cancer with Antigenic Epitope Resembling Ciguatoxin as Determined

> with MAB CTX. International Symposium on Toxins and Natural Products

> Okinawa, Japan, November 17 - 19, 2002.

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> Hokama, Y, Whang, C., Chun, K. F., Suma, C . and N. Higa, 2003.

> Chronic Phase Lipids in Sera of Several Chronic Diseases Reacting

> with MAB–CTX (Antibody to Ciguatoxin) Journal of Toxicology. Vol.

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> No. 4, pp. 547–554.

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> Hokama, Y., Uto, G., Palafox, N. A., Enlander, D., Jordan, E. and A.

> Cocchetto 2003. Chronic Phase Lipids in Sera of Chronic Fatigue

> Syndrome (CFS), Chronic Ciguatera Fish Poisoning (CCFP), Hepatitis

B,

> and Cancer With Antigenic Epitope Resembling Ciguatoxin, as Assessed

> With MAb-CTX. Journal of Clinical Laboratory Analysis 17:132–139.

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> Pearn, J. 2001. Neurology of Ciguatera. J. Neurol. Neurosurg.

> Psychiatry 70: 4-8.

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> Here is a link to mannitol treatment for ciguatera done by Blythe,

> Sylva who seem to be experts on this treatment in Florida.

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> http://www.bigbendsportsman.com/medicine/ciguatera.htm

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> For help with this treatment, call the Ciguatera Hotline at (305)

361-

> 4619 or (305) 661-0774.

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> Here is another link suggesting mannitol IV for RSD. They are

> suggesting RSD is caused by inflammation and edema. They are not

> looking for an underlying infection, but it seems likely that the

> mannitol may be clearing some toxin, not just reducing inflammation

> in RSD cases – hey we don't know what causes RSD, do we? (Lots of

> Lyme and cfs cases get this label.)

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> http://www.rsdrx.com/rsdpuz4.0/puz_111.htm

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