Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Hi I tried sending you the list offline but it bounced back. mail me your email id. Thanks Meenakshi > > Hello, Is anyone doing the Yasko protocol. I would like the list of phase > 1 supplements. I do not have her book and on the website autismanswer.com > she mention only a few. Where can I get the list? > Thank you > > Vinutha > > On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 19:36:45 -0000 " jornmatt " <snowbear@...> > writes: > >>>Our DAN dr says they don't work and are a useless waste of money- > but then again- i have found that many opinions that he has are not > my own and i have gone my own way. > > Good for you! It is hard for doctors to keep up on all the current > information out that. You are the one that is focused on and > responsible your child. > > Enzymes can work quite well. The trick is finding the right ones for > the right use, and watching the timing. > > >>>I want to try enzymes to perhaps gently introduce some milk > products. Any recommendations on products- doses (he weighs 50 lbs) > and behaviors to look for? > > Peptizyde from Houston or either GlutenEase from Enzymedica can work > quite well for replacing casein (milk protein) in a diet. But dairy > also contains lactose (milk sugar) which can trip up people equally. > So a combination of enzymes may work best to cover all elements in > dairy. > > 1. Lacto (enzymedica) makes a great product to start with. It has > some DPP IV for the casein part, but lactase for the milk sugar part. > Plus other broad-spectrum enzymes for complete food breakdown. I > usually suggest get one bottle and go through that. When you finish > that bottle, switch to one of the following: > > a. GlutenEase plus Lacto (Enzymedica) > b. Peptizyde plus HN Zyme Prime (Houston) > c. Vital-zyme Complete (Klaire) > d. Maximum Spectrum EnZym Complete/DPPIV™ Fruit Free Isogest Formula > (Kirkman, and this really needs a shorter name or acronym!) > > best to you with this! > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Hi I tried sending you the list offline but it bounced back. mail me your email id. Thanks Meenakshi > > Hello, Is anyone doing the Yasko protocol. I would like the list of phase > 1 supplements. I do not have her book and on the website autismanswer.-com > she mention only a few. Where can I get the list? > Thank you > > Vinutha > > On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 19:36:45 -0000 " jornmatt " <snowbear@..-.> > writes: > >>>Our DAN dr says they don't work and are a useless waste of money- > but then again- i have found that many opinions that he has are not > my own and i have gone my own way. > > Good for you! It is hard for doctors to keep up on all the current > information out that. You are the one that is focused on and > responsible your child. > > Enzymes can work quite well. The trick is finding the right ones for > the right use, and watching the timing. > > >>>I want to try enzymes to perhaps gently introduce some milk > products. Any recommendations on products- doses (he weighs 50 lbs) > and behaviors to look for? > > Peptizyde from Houston or either GlutenEase from Enzymedica can work > quite well for replacing casein (milk protein) in a diet. But dairy > also contains lactose (milk sugar) which can trip up people equally. > So a combination of enzymes may work best to cover all elements in > dairy. > > 1. Lacto (enzymedica) makes a great product to start with. It has > some DPP IV for the casein part, but lactase for the milk sugar part. > Plus other broad-spectrum enzymes for complete food breakdown. I > usually suggest get one bottle and go through that. When you finish > that bottle, switch to one of the following: > > a. GlutenEase plus Lacto (Enzymedica) > b. Peptizyde plus HN Zyme Prime (Houston) > c. Vital-zyme Complete (Klaire) > d. Maximum Spectrum EnZym Complete/DPPIV Fruit Free Isogest Formula > (Kirkman, and this really needs a shorter name or acronym!) > > best to you with this! > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Well, I much prefer your explanation than some of the others I've been hearing. :-) And don't get me wrong, I'm all for anyone doing anything that they think might help. And I truly hope this DOES help. It just gets me when there's an air of zealotry and superiority about it. I've heard it all so many times, almost verbatim when it comes to the certainty, can't help but be a little cyncial. I will be the first person cheering if it turns out to be true. But I'm not going to go chasing off after the next big thing. Sometimes I think it's all this chasing that's the true cause of this chronic fatigue. ;-) pennyKate <KateDunlay@...> wrote: It is very difficult to do quick homework on Yasko. You can't go to her sites a couple of times and understand what it's all about. I'm taking it very slowly and finding that I believe it may have applications to my son and myself, even though we have Lyme diagnoses. I am considering doing some of the tests. I wish people here would not be negative so quickly about this area of study. It doesn't negate the importance of treating infections and taking them seriously. It's a way to look at your own body specifically and find out what important processes might not be working correctly. Then you may be able to get those processes functioning better. Say you're lacking in an enzyme and that's a limiting factor in a cycle. You may be able to supplement the active usable form that doesn't require the enzyme, thus getting the cycle moving again. I'm probably not even saying this correctly, but I am just trying to express the basic idea that makes sense to me and is the reason I am planning to read more. It's not just obsessing about glutathione!I haven't bought her book. There is plenty of info in the files at the group and elsewhere. Maybe the book helps, but you can get a good idea of whether you're interested or not by looking at the posted files. Yes, it's pretty overwhelming.- KateOn Jan 14, 2007, at 5:55 PM, pjeanneus wrote:> DAvid and all,> I hope we can continue this discussion on this email list. Thanks,> , for your thoughtful replies. I wish I could find some hope in> Yasko, just as I wish I could find some hope in rife machines.>> You suggest that I have not done my homework. I must admit after 11> years and some level of recovery I don't want to do that much> homework. I went to her site and was just overcome with the> impossibility of finding information. Now you tell me she has a book> on autism. Do I want to spend my money, and more importantly, my> time?>> When I took time to look for some sort of a chart linking infection> to genetic deficiency to treatment I could not find anything. What I> did find in terms of treating just borrelia was stuff most Lymies> have tried for decades to no effect.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Kate You went and done yasko testing at the 2 k end of the scale? I would implement you bring over the local kids and give them a staining like cordial sunstance and observe the differences in your sons mucus membranes and the neibourhood healthy kids.You may notice for a grand total of 75 cents worth of cordial your sons mucus membranes are similar to what's often reported as leaky gut syndome...There's leaks and problems throughout the mucus membrane network that are being created by the TOXINS the infection keeps pumping out.You also may want your son to stick his fingers down his throat and get him to vomit so you can observe the layers of slime that work there way down there and go on to block many normal functions. You may also get a healthyu neibourhood kid to perform this same ritual and he may blow out chunks with plenty of stomach acids as opposed to your kids slimecrap.Observation- priceless, Cost -zero. tony > > > DAvid and all, > > I hope we can continue this discussion on this email list. Thanks, > > , for your thoughtful replies. I wish I could find some hope in > > Yasko, just as I wish I could find some hope in rife machines. > > > > You suggest that I have not done my homework. I must admit after 11 > > years and some level of recovery I don't want to do that much > > homework. I went to her site and was just overcome with the > > impossibility of finding information. Now you tell me she has a book > > on autism. Do I want to spend my money, and more importantly, my > > time? > > > > When I took time to look for some sort of a chart linking infection > > to genetic deficiency to treatment I could not find anything. What I > > did find in terms of treating just borrelia was stuff most Lymies > > have tried for decades to no effect. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 If I seem hostile toward the Yasko protocol there is probably an explanation, not an excuse, for my bias. When I did some homework at the site and looked at the list for Lyme (in particular I was looking to see if she used any antibiotics, as Rich V told me she did in some cases) the first thing I saw on her list was samento. Now I will not bore you with my history, but I firmly believe if my Lyme doctor had not given me two months of quinolones I would be basically well today. I wasn't particularly sick back then but finally did get diagnosed with borrelia, so started the quinolones. There is no way on earth I would ever put samento on the top of the list for a patient with active Lyme. So how much do I respect Yasko's genetic testing? I would like to see her do some genetic testing to see who can safely take the poison we call cat's claw, samento, tonic water, or quinolone antibiotics. After all some are harmed by it, some not. When she figures that out I might begin to get serious about her research. Meanwhile I tend to listen to Dumbaussie. a Carnes > > Well, I much prefer your explanation than some of the others I've been hearing. :-) > > And don't get me wrong, I'm all for anyone doing anything that they think might help. And I truly hope this DOES help. It just gets me when there's an air of zealotry and superiority about it. I've heard it all so many times, almost verbatim when it comes to the certainty, can't help but be a little cyncial. I will be the first person cheering if it turns out to be true. But I'm not going to go chasing off after the next big thing. Sometimes I think it's all this chasing that's the true cause of this chronic fatigue. ;-) > > penny > > Kate <KateDunlay@...> wrote: > It is very difficult to do quick homework on Yasko. You can't go to > her sites a couple of times and understand what it's all about. I'm > taking it very slowly and finding that I believe it may have > applications to my son and myself, even though we have Lyme > diagnoses. I am considering doing some of the tests. I wish people > here would not be negative so quickly about this area of study. It > doesn't negate the importance of treating infections and taking them > seriously. It's a way to look at your own body specifically and find > out what important processes might not be working correctly. Then you > may be able to get those processes functioning better. Say you're > lacking in an enzyme and that's a limiting factor in a cycle. You may > be able to supplement the active usable form that doesn't require the > enzyme, thus getting the cycle moving again. I'm probably not even > saying this correctly, but I am just trying to express the basic idea > that makes sense to me and is the reason I am planning to read more. > It's not just obsessing about glutathione! > > I haven't bought her book. There is plenty of info in the files at > the group and elsewhere. Maybe the book helps, but you can get > a good idea of whether you're interested or not by looking at the > posted files. Yes, it's pretty overwhelming. > > - Kate > > On Jan 14, 2007, at 5:55 PM, pjeanneus wrote: > > > DAvid and all, > > I hope we can continue this discussion on this email list. Thanks, > > , for your thoughtful replies. I wish I could find some hope in > > Yasko, just as I wish I could find some hope in rife machines. > > > > You suggest that I have not done my homework. I must admit after 11 > > years and some level of recovery I don't want to do that much > > homework. I went to her site and was just overcome with the > > impossibility of finding information. Now you tell me she has a book > > on autism. Do I want to spend my money, and more importantly, my > > time? > > > > When I took time to look for some sort of a chart linking infection > > to genetic deficiency to treatment I could not find anything. What I > > did find in terms of treating just borrelia was stuff most Lymies > > have tried for decades to no effect. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Hey, Tony, should we laugh or throw up? a > > Kate > You went and done yasko testing at the 2 k end of the scale? I would > implement you bring over the local kids and give them a staining like > cordial sunstance and observe the differences in your sons mucus > membranes and the neibourhood healthy kids.You may notice for a grand > total of 75 cents worth of cordial your sons mucus membranes are > similar to what's often reported as leaky gut syndome...There's leaks > and problems throughout the mucus membrane network that are being > created by the TOXINS the infection keeps pumping out.You also may > want your son to stick his fingers down his throat and get him to > vomit so you can observe the layers of slime that work there way down > there and go on to block many normal functions. You may also get a > healthyu neibourhood kid to perform this same ritual and he may blow > out chunks with plenty of stomach acids as opposed to your kids > slimecrap.Observation- priceless, Cost -zero. > tony > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 We did and it was very helpful particularly with my son's ammonia regulation and MAO issues. We cant use a number of the recommended supplements because of his oxalate issues, but it was a good starting point in finding alternatives. Karla > > Has anyone on this group taken the Yasko test to find out what supplements to take or not? I was thinking about making the investment. Thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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