Here's something for the slimes of the world.

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You would probably do quite well with the eradication of your slime

forming organisms by complementing antibiotic therapy with oral

fibrinolytic enzymes such as serrapeptase, nattokinase or lumbrokinase.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

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6757752

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And for good measure, toss in some curcumin and cyanne pepper to block

the NFKB activated cytokines and some of you folks might even start to

feel pretty good after a while.

Tom Brown

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Hi Tom, I took natto for quite a while. Didn't notice anything, but that's not to say I don't buy the theory. There's another slime/fibrin buster, which I can't recall, that I think works even better than natto and lumbrokinase. Anyone remember what it is? There are actually quite a few, and many of them, like guai for instance (natural blood thinner/analgesic), have been touted as CFS treatments in the past, probably because they are beneficial in some small ways. I think when you've got a heavy duty, deeply entrenched infection though, you may have to go for the heavy duty blood thinners, like heparin. But I agree with everything you've mentioned as being potential aids in our battle, (even if they help only minimally). Someone just recently posted a brand new study on cayenne, too, which might be relevant to our fight with inflammation. But again, I can't remember the details. Must be time

for bed for me, but you can do a search of the archives if you're interested. pennytbrownerski <tbrownerski@...> wrote: You would probably do quite well with the eradication of your slime forming organisms by complementing antibiotic therapy with oral fibrinolytic enzymes such as serrapeptase, nattokinase or lumbrokinase.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus & db=pubmed & cmd=Retrieve & dopt=abstractplus & list_uids=16757752http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed & cmd=Retrieve & dopt=AbstractPlus & list_uids=7001087 & itool=iconabstr & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_DocSumAnd for good measure, toss in some curcumin and cyanne pepper to block the NFKB activated cytokines and some of you folks might even start to feel pretty good after a while.Tom Brown

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Penny:

It was me- talking about ibuprofen (see reference)

which I used * alot* of as a modulator becuase it seemed to be

very effective on me.

Although I think enzymes are extremely helpfull when used wisely.

Barb

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=310207

Antimicrob Agents Chemother. 2004 January; 48(1): 41–47.

doi: 10.1128/AAC.48.1.41-47.2004.

Copyright © 2004, American Society for Microbiology

" Effects of Aspirin and Other Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs on

Biofilms and Planktonic Cells of Candida albicans "

> You would probably do quite well with the eradication of

your slime

> forming organisms by complementing antibiotic therapy with oral

> fibrinolytic enzymes such as serrapeptase, nattokinase or

lumbrokinase.

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> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

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1

> 6757752

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> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

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> And for good measure, toss in some curcumin and cyanne pepper to

block

> the NFKB activated cytokines and some of you folks might even start

to

> feel pretty good after a while.

>

> Tom Brown

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, of course. I just wish I could take it. Stomach won't let me. pennyBarb Peck <egroups1bp@...> wrote: Penny:It was me- talking about ibuprofen (see reference)which I used * alot* of as a modulator becuase it seemed to bevery effective on me.Although I think enzymes are extremely helpfull when used wisely.Barbhttp://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=310207Antimicrob Agents Chemother. 2004 January; 48(1): 41–47. doi: 10.1128/AAC.48.1.41-47.2004.Copyright © 2004, American Society for Microbiology"Effects of Aspirin and Other Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs on Biofilms and Planktonic Cells of Candida albicans"> You would probably do quite well with the eradication of your slime > forming organisms by complementing antibiotic therapy with oral

> fibrinolytic enzymes such as serrapeptase, nattokinase or lumbrokinase.> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?> itool=abstractplus & db=pubmed & cmd=Retrieve & dopt=abstractplus & list_uids=1> 6757752> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?> db=pubmed & cmd=Retrieve & dopt=AbstractPlus & list_uids=7001087 & itool=iconab> str & query_hl=1 & itool=pubmed_DocSum> > And for good measure, toss in some curcumin and cyanne pepper to block > the NFKB activated cytokines and some of you folks might even start to > feel pretty good after a while.> > Tom

Brown>

[Guest guest]

I am so confused! I feel like I’m reading the

story “Find what will kill the Blob” except in this case it is his ‘slime’???

I’m sorry for coming in the middle of this, but will ya’ll tell me

what you are discussing regarding Tom and his health.

What slime is this and where for gosh sakes and when I go

to the links all that comes up is a page with a book on it “How Healthy

is America”. Should I get it? LOL!!! But seriously, explain and thank

you so very much.~~Edeneeze/Doe Serena Cochran

there before the

grace of God go I..........

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